User blog comment:OtterJiang/V3 - Good, Bad, and Ugly/@comment-30602727-20141224014824/@comment-53539-20141224201351

@208.104.224.121; Just think about something.

What has happened this generation with the languages;


 * Spanish; 3 vocals
 * Chinese; 4 vocals - and they even had a break between Yanhe!
 * Korean; 1 vocal

Even if you want to push the fandom side of Vocaloid, the actions of the studios reflect everything. SeeU is labelled "SV-01", which implies more vocals were due. SBS isn't heading Uni, our second Vocaloid for Korean Vocaloid, someone else is and their just acting as advisers. As everyone pointed out, SeeU sold far less then expected. This is pretty much known and is the reason why they didn't risk a new vocal for her and have her English vocal on hold - thats if the mythical english vocal even existed and this wasn't more BS from SBS spoken just to get attention for a vocal.

I certainly wouldn't give seeU a 9/10 either. I know these are your opinions, but your opinion of SeeU is just so one sided. On the one hand your more critical with some other Vocaloids on you list and gave a more deserving grade based on more balanced opinions, on the other, you seemed to ignore a vocaloids flaws when it suited you, leading to a really unbalanced list. This is something I tried to avoid when I wrote my own list, though its not always 100% to get a balanced opinion on paper, I'm JUST as likely to say something good about a vocaloid as bad, when I'm trying to grade them myself.

Basically, she is a overall mid-quality vocal because she has a number of pronunciation issues and audio quality that needs to be fidxed. she isn't the worst, nor are other versions of Vocaloid not without their share of problems, the report is she produces the typical quality that a early/mid V2 vocal has and this is spoken without the engine version taken in mind. Ergo, I'd throw her off as a "v2 vocal in the V3 engine" if we actually knew more about Korean vocaloid development.

I'm one of those who supports Miku English even though the vocal sucks for this very reason of developing a balanced argument and logical reasoning behind releases, and actions. Am Inessecary always right? Of course not - and neither are you and this is what you need to bare in mind.

A more honest overall and fair rating in any typical rating system is going to be 6/10 or 7/10. The other issue is, despite her MQ status... As the only Vocaloid we can't judge her too much because we have nothing else to base her on. Least not her Korean vocal. I say "MQ" because I can only judge her myself based on normal spoken Korean and general Vocaloids.

The biggest issue you have with the statment "the number still stand is" just THAT. What numbers? We have no sales figures, and if you go by certain Japanese sites, SeeU is really, really unpopular. Remember the most Vocaloid content isn't in the overseas fandom - their in the Japanese fandom!

Seeu is one of the most seesaw-ing vocaloids of V3, her divide in popularity is notable to the point where you HONESTLY can't say she has been one of the most unsuccessful or successful based on fanart and songs alone. Popularity among fans has, as I established, not necessary been a good indicator of sales figures. If you go by Kaito's current popularity, you wouldn't know Kaito's PAST popularity nor how bad he solds in V1. Likewise if you go with SeeU's past popularity, you won't know how bad she is fairly overall in terms of sales. Fan popularity is one of the biggest illusions there is.

Even then, bare in mind that vocaloid itself always falls down to the problem of the individual experience and unless you venture out into different parts of the fandom, you don't see more then a fragment of what it is. This is whjy some fans don't know Vocaloid beyond the most popular 50-100 songs, or the Project Diva games, why fans think Neru or Haku are relevent because they appear in those said games and why some people struggle to accept Gumi is a vocaloid because they can't understand what "megpoid" refers to.

also you argument about her ripping off of Miku... I hate to say it, but she does. Numbers on the arm, the use of only a few colours to create a cute overal simple design, the base design of the attire. the fact she has numbers on her arm (bare in mind Luo had to be re-designed to fit a chinese audience herself as she was based on Japanese Vocaloids) But look, this is not something that is shameful or anything like that. I like Big Al, and he is one of the estabish characters to be borrowing popular elements from Japanese vocaloids. miki, Gackpo, Sonika... These guys are also well known.

We did make a effort to make fans understand this doesn't matter, but as I noted on your list... Typically most fans DO judge on if they like or do not like a vocaloid by their looks. Its called "human nature" and as swallow as something is, its also a built in self-preservation mechanism that no human being can avoid.

Either way, you really over praised SeeU and think thats why some folks are not comfortable with it. Its not she didn't deserve any praise, its just she was a real face-palmer for the entire Vocaloid fandom. Basically she is like a train wreck... You just can't stop looking at her because of how disastrous she has been.

Its also why I myself am fixed on Uni... There is a AWFUL lot of recovery weight on her. Some of us halfway through this generation basically felt SBS needed to drop SeeU and focus on another vocaloid, but they kept focusing on SeeU. And with the cancellation of her Engish vocal and her provider in jail, SeeU is not in a good place.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Vocaloid%20SeeU%2C%20Vocaloid%20oliver&cmpt=q

Also, here is a google trends chart highlighting her popularity here int he west, least the audience using gogole to search her up. Oliver is thrown in to hightlight that she is in his quarter of the popularity of vocaloids, and to show that compared to some other vocaloids, SeeU isn't getting any popular. That the trouble.