Talk:Kagamine Rin/Len/@comment-25259979-20151211041744/@comment-53539-20151211114621

Their vocals had a lot of Miku's vocal concerns from what I heard. Still sound like their dropping their jaws to sound out things, which all other CFM vocaloids suffer from, even Luka at times. I think the only Japanese -> English vocal who doesn't do that is Gumi, least she does it the least.

I don't think the vocal is too different to Miku's level of English, but the lighter tone of vocal helps them more then the higher pitch, but deeper tone of Miku.

But when their singing at the same time... It might as well be two copies of either vocal singing. Their harmonization is too clicky, you can barely separate them. And if not for the fact they cover two different ranges, I doubt you' be able to tell them apart. I think the lack of distinction, which is worst then the Japanese versions, is going to be the biggest issues for this vocal. I think they have the same problem that Miku's VA likely faced, in that its hard to voice act for English in the same manner as Japanese. So some traits from Japanese are lost such as the original vocals tones. :-/

I've already seen the praises coming in, which was expected for the Kagamines. They out number the % outside of Luka then the other English CFM vocaloids already. Which is kinda sad.... But it was going to go without saying that there is a strong bias because its them already. I doubt any crits we have will make a lick of difference to the success/failure of the pair.

Makes me sad that its always so much easier for other English base vocals (native or otherwise) to get trodden on compared to the CFM lot. Still... Time will tell. For now, their not even released so its not like we can draw conclusions finale just yet the pair. More info always comes on hand post release then pre-release.

The only thing that I look forward to is more people getting into English vocals s a result of them. If someone find a Oliver/Len duet, it would be worth putting it up. The only curiosity I have is how close Len matches to a real boys voice of someone roughly that age. I've always said, at 14, Len is in the voice-break range. :-/