Talk:Lily/@comment-35874478-20181024182219/@comment-53539-20181024185055

I will note Lily is in the same vocal type group as Meiko and Mirai, as well as others. So she isn't so "unique" because of this. But this doesn't matter as of V4 pretty much there isn't many Vocal types left to cover in female vocals. Its not acceptable going forward that vocaloids can sound similar to each other and its not a problem.

Lily's vocal is hard to work with, the original V2 vocal and the updated version of it included with the new voice in V3 both have pitching issues. So Lily's vocal has problems related to it. The second vocal included with the V3 one is the pitch fixed vocal though I've heard little feed back on it myself. I tend to feel that a lot of the time producers pick up Lily and she is one of the vocals they don't quite know what to do with. As in, they can't always guess what she does and doesn't do.

@Aaaaaiiiiii; I did a section on my user page today where I mentioned "opinions". Opinions *can* be wrong depending on what they are. For example, an opinion of taste may not be wrong, but a statement put out as a fact can. I explain on my user page the issue when people make statements like "Len is the best Vocaloid", as this is debatable. However, saying "I like the Vocaloid Len" is a personnel declaration and yes, it is not wrong to the user. Likewise its the same for Lily.

I find Lily kind uninteresting, but I generally don't like the vocaloids within Meiko's group a little hard to be interested in. Its kinda a common type vocal found throughout the world and not difficult to hire someone to cover a song for this reason. Even in terms of Miku while her voice type may be a bit more common in Japan, she isn't world wide a popular type for vocal being a cutesy Mezzo and soprano (depends on the voicebank is her vocal range). Plus there is a lot to say, which lead me to the conclusion I'm not a fan of her. Meiko, Lily, Mirai, Anon, Kanon and a bunch of other similar vocals kinda leave me undecided on if I do or don't like them... Its mostly because everything they do tends to end up being done better by the more distinct vocals. Example; Why would you buy Meiko for Rock when Ia has a better vocal specifically for Rock? Its only "its Meiko" I can think of because technically her "straight" vocal is inferior to Mirai and Mirai does much of the same things as Meiko... With a bigger vocal range and tempo to boot. Lily is in the same boat, there is so little she can do that other Vocaloids can't also do or do better at this stage.