Talk:Hatsune Miku V3 English/@comment-4979838-20130804033709/@comment-53539-20130806182709

Sometimes dyslexcia falls in my favor, I could read all of what Melt wrote but I have too many disagreements with what you said. Firstly, CLARITY is still only one factor of QUALITY, there are MANY.

Avanna has quality that even Gumi and Kaito V3 lack, but you have to "know" what the traits are... Softness often gives a smoother voice, long drawn out notes let a vocaloid hold their strength, their vocal style, the tempo they can use... Any one of these factors and many more could singly be more important then clarity could be. And just because clarity is heard in a vocaloid, doesn't mean the samples were good ones. Heck back to Miku herself, it was a crap vocal compared to latter smoother vocals int he V3 generation.

You cannot say Avanna is a better vocal quality wise then Gumi, but you may not even think of WHY she is better... There are things that bring Gumi down that don't bring Avanna down so much... And I'm more a Gumi fan then a Avanna fan here, Gumi's my 4th favourite Vocaloid (#1 Tonio, #2 Big Al, #3 Gakupo...) and a active English vocaloid fan. Each voice has particular characteristics about it though which play in the vocals favor or against it... You can't say "one vocal is better" then another without first accepting that things aren't so clear. There are times Gumi can't do things, there are times when Avanna can't...

Not only that but as the engine updates and changes vocals are impacted. Just a comparison between a V2 vocal and a V2 vocal V3 imported is enough to notice and some vocals like Sonika gained clarity just via this.

People are also now making original English songs... Maybe you haven't HEARD them but they exist ande we're slowly getting more and more producers. Many were held back by the absence of particular vocals they were after, but now thats change so the english vocaloid fandom. Heck, the difference between now and 2009 alone is more people know English vocaloid exists thent hey did then, which alone has opened more doors. And with each new producer comes a different look on the same vocaloids we've known all this time.

I could pick up Sonika and find I hate and can't use her... But someone else?

True some vocaloids like VY1, VY2 and Zola are better quality then other Japanese vocaloids... But bottom line is this isn't the onyl thing to consider. :-/