Talk:Kagamine Rin & Len/@comment-35524413-20191123023245/@comment-53539-20191123081357

The problem is CV was a character of their provider so changing vocals would have brought their own problems. Yes, one day it may have to happen as Miku's provider won't live forever even if Miku will, but a new provider... Its like having a new Vocaloid altogether. There are more problems with this like will the fans accept this? What happens if the voice break mid-recording (Harry Potter 1st film, half way through recording the actor playing Harry's voice broke).

Their not big problems, but their problems that stack up.

Voice acting and singing do stack with each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BREsVS3kBeY

Heres one of my favourite examples of tone changing from a singer, and it happens to also be an example of voice acted singing. This is strange because I just showed it to the guys on Discord.

Unity-chan! (VOCALOID4) is also an example of voice acting and singing overlapping. The provider actually has to sit there and work out how singing vocals work for that character. Talking and singing are two different sets of muscles in the throat.

Going to draw a line here because from this point onwards, there is theory and less fact at play.

I've had this theory based on the early pre-V2 release stuff that originally Miku, Rin and Luka Japanese were planned to be the only 3 vocals. CFM has claimed otherwise and we have to take their word as gospel, but early on there is no indication they had Len and Luka planned. Yes, they may have well had a English/Japanese vocal planned but they'd benched it and Luka would have had only Japanese like Miku herself did. When Miku was a sudden success, they expanded the plans for CV02 and CV03 on the fly and either brought back older plans to test the water or expanded them.

The Kagamines development started after Miku's and is generally accepted to have been a rushed project. Since the voice provider did both male and female voice acted roles, and "males don't sell" they asked the voice actress to voice both a male and a female voice, they could always lean on Rin to sell the package afterall. How true any of this theory is I don't know, the rushed nature of the Kagamines is because CFM panicked because Miku was far more popular then expected, thus they wanted their next product out ASAP to take advantage of the popularity of Miku.

They've not admitted that the Kagamines were a rushed project, but even in Japan its generally understood this happened. IT turns out as well that "Power" in the Append package is basically an Act3, to the point that in V4x the "Power" vocals are now the default vocals for the Kagamines. So it took CFM two further attempts to fix the problem.