Talk:Aoki Lapis/@comment-25352448-20141023210948/@comment-53539-20141027082857

@V3, yeah vocals like VY1 and VY2 (Vy2v3 Falsetto is't noob friendly though), that are built for noobs in mind too. I'm a little concerned that you are determined to have a Japanese Vocaloid without realizing just the full extent of what your getting yourself into.

Its kinda hard for overseas fans to talk about Japanese Vocaloids so well. So unless a company says it specifically, I will never say a Japanese Vocaloid is "easy to use". This is why for those getting into Vocaloid and want to play with Japanese, I always say go for a bilingual first. There is a lot of vagueness on the overall capabilities of many, this is why we can often document English (and spanish since we have a native Spanish person or two here). Apart from Miku and the other seven members of the Big 8, they are much harder to analysis.

Note that people have often tried and convince me that Miki and Kiyoteru are "easy to use", when we have reports from the Japanese fandom that they are "not for beginners". Who do I choose to believe? A random overseas fan who doesn't know the true technical faults of the language and is 9/10 only saying it because their bias in favour of a vocal, or the native Japanese who know what their talking about?

Until then, your best doing as people are telling you, either stick to a English one or, if you really want Japanese, go for a bilingual. There is no shame in it and you do yourself more favours. Most of the overseas fans buying Japanese Vocaloids are wasting their time and money, as harsh as that is to say, most don't know what their doing with them. And if their only going to use them to make english, which results in LQ results, then why did they buy them in the first place?

I'm going to put it bluntly here: Only invest in a Japanese only vocal when you can communication using Japanese with a Japanese native. Even if the conversations isn't much, your can't learn Japanese fully without practice and the best way to do that is to get to a point where Japanese people are able to talk to you. At that point you know enough to think about Japanese Vocaloids. I'm not trying to sound harsh, I'm just saying what needs to be said here. Better said now before you make the mistake many fans are making all the time.

Other then this, speak to people at Vocaloid Otaku forums, but bare in mind what I've said about non-native Japanese people talking about Japanese vocaloids. But at least you will find others who've done it wioth fair bit of experience. Here at the wikia, people tend to be more interested in the facts then the usage, whereas at forums like this they tend to be more interested in the usage then facts. :-/