Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3076833-20141028204009/@comment-53539-20141101110119

72.66.33.238 wrote: Angel Emfrbl wrote:

Serza5 wrote:

Misteryeevee wrote: @ Serza - According to AtH (SirVancelot)'s September news video... he said that ALYS couldn't be a VOCALOID because they didn't want just singing, they wanted talking too? No. CeVIO allowing for speech synthesis was one of the reasons they decided to swap to CeVIO. In other words, they had no plans to but then they saw the opportunity and took it.

@ Bunai : I was thinking more a system built specifically to hold VOCALOID, like one of those VY1 microchip things. Not to mention they blew it with Yamaha in the first place.

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Universal Platform Support: Microsoft Windows 7/8/8.1/10*, OS X 10.10+, iOS 8.1+, Microsoft Windows Phone 8.1+, etc.

Not possible, different OS work differently and do not have a shared universal code. This is why many updates to windows prevent old software and games working.

Physical, Digital Download and Cloud Integration through VOCALOID NET

Explain?

Unification of appends and languages: Example: Miku V4 Spanish Dark Creation,

This is something the studios decide and has nothing to do with V4. If the studio decides to never do a Miku Spanish, for example, then one cannot beg CFM to do this. Each studio works independently. People need to seperate what is to do with "Vocaloid" and the developers when they ask for these things.

unification and full support of Voice banks and VOCALOID specific hardware: Example: Creation of an eVOCALOID unit per VOCALOID, coming seperated or bundled with Voice Banks

Different platforms work differently!

allowing multiple input methods for different types of users.

We have manual (mouse + keyboard) and keyboard (music keyboard). Other then speech, there isn't many other ways to input data and electronic keyboard is already considered something that is not a ordinary method of input.

Add the speach option as in some real world scenarios, performers say a phrase, without being sung.

VocaListener? This isn't a clean things as you'd expect and often leaves a horrible mess which requires cleaning up. If the person using the software plug-in cannot sing themselves, then the Vocaloid will reflect it. Those that can sing often don't need a vocaloid in the first place making it redundant to a point. Currently it only works with simple languages like Japanese and doesn't work too well with more complex langauges like (at times) Spanish and (very much so) English.

If your asking for speech, bare in mind that there are 4 registers of the humans voice; Speech, Singing, Whistling, Falsetto. Each of the 4 has a different set of muscle contractions in use. Therefore you need a different formula for use of each register. Vocaloid is currently only built for singing, samples for each Vocaloid tend to be in singing tones. You cannot use samples built for singing as well as samples built for speech to do the same thing, this is why its hard to get Vocaloids to speak without them still sounding like their trying to sing. :-/

Worldwide recognization, distribution and support.

Isn't that what the Yamaha shop is suppose to be doing?

Ignoring that for a moment... Bare in mind that Japanese Vocaloids are made for the Japanese audience, English for English speaking audiences, Spanish for Spanish, Chinese for Chinese, Korean for Korean. Therefore their primary focus is on this. also bare in mind that copyright licensing and data protection is not universally the same in every country. Some countries do not acknowledge copyright, for examples, others have 0% protection for loss of customer data.

The moment that Vocaloids are sold outside of Japan, since Yamaha is a Japanese company making the property a Japanese license, it becomes a export. The license and sale of such products becomes greater. This already impacts English, Spanish, Chinese and Korean Vocaloids. Regardless, the Yamaha shop is aimed to be the main handler of Vocaloid sales both in and outside of Japan. But the Vocaloid franchise still meets up with legal things when it is sold outside of Japan and Yamaha has to take responsibility for it.

I know there are certain countries that cannot buy Vocaloid right now, but there is a good reason why they can't. Yamaha could do a better job at advertising. I know all the stuff about them being Japanese, but obviously other than japanese and chinese (i have no idea about korean), vocaloids are really dependent on people already knowing vocaloid.

Vocaloid is a franchise. It is up to the companies to promote individual vocals. Yamaha's focus was on Japan mostly due to how well vocaloid did in Japan. Yamaha is not a PR company and they have other companies to do this for them. Like CFM were originally, and Bplats are currently.

Vocaloid has usually been one of those self-promoting products; the more users use the product, the more it is promoted. Minecraft originally was just like this also and thus was a self-promoting product. In the days of the internet, more promotion occurs that is not done by a company then is done by a company, since "word of mouth" tends to sell a product quicker then shiny advertisements would. Even this generation, Oliver benefited from the use of his vocal in Bee and Puppycat.

This wikia is built also on promoting all Vocaloids and the Vocaloid engine itself. Whenever someone types in "Vocaloid" into search engines like google, we tend to be one of the first few results up. We also are part of the "word of mouth" circle. Typing "vocaloid" just a second go revealled we are currently the 3rd results, 2nd was wikipedia's page and first was the Vocaloid website. 4th was Vocaloid facebook, so we are above Yamahas facebook account (weird enough). People don't tend to click past the top 10 results.

Basically, promotion is a thing that if fans really truly, love something they do everything they can to promote the hell out of it themselves. Its how you put the love back into what you like. The more you promote, the more people take notice, the more this happens, the more fans flock in. Its a circle. :-/