Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-25147000-20150320032731/@comment-53539-20150420094952

71.120.151.13 wrote: Angel Emfrbl wrote: Honestly, I won't say UTAU is any different, but the way vocaloid fans rub their superiority complex on it is kinda bad... I simply demand more from it, I'm not saying vocaloid is superior nor do I put the software down. I just say, I now what a few of its long-term problems are and until it tackles those issues, its not yet on par with Vocaloid in overall quality.

This is like as I exampled with the miki fan, you see people defending miki for the wrong reasons back in V2. Nothing about her vocal tone range, nothing about her realism, they just... counter claim the things like "not for beginners". In that sense, Prima is not easy to use, but she is one of the best two English V2's. If all you focus on is trying to prove something thats bad isn't so bad, you can easily overlook the things that UTAU or a vocaloid does right, which often are STRONGER arguments then the weak one your trying to disprove.

I'd be on board with UTAU as a user if they made it stop sounding like Cher in that 1 song, or fixed the way the software sounds too much like Twiki from Buck Rogers during the "bibibibibi" sound changing notes. Vocaloid has both but to a lesser degree. Those two sounds are both uncomfortable on the ears. Added that, just as how one Vocaloid can be much HQ then another in the same engine version, this is even worst for UTAU. And the other issue is, when you ask things like "whats your fav. UTAU", more often then not... Well... Teto, vipperoids... And a few other commons ones come up... Yet their not eve the best UTAU has to offer.

With vocaloid, you get similair also. Remember how someone ran down the English vocaloids last year as "LQ" and praised the Japanese vocaloids as "HQ" yet, they supported Galaco, who at the time was still in her prize version and was a "MQ" vocal at best? Then you had the people who ran down English vocaloids back in 2010/2011, yet adored the English produced by a Japanese vocaloid which even Wat said was "LQ".

Its kinda of "funny" how things work. And it amuses me to this day. Maybe because all other fandoms I've been in weren't so... opinion-based... But its just weird how the very thing that excels one thing will end up being the very thing its put down for. Just wondering, Angel, what's your opinion on Gahata Meiji? Question; do you know what a Kazoo is...?

There difference with criticising individual UTAU as oppose to vocaloids is I'm more aware of how personnel UTAUS are compared to Vocaloids, and I'm less inclined to rate them individually.