Talk:Nekomura Iroha/@comment-174.2.69.189-20160106024543/@comment-53539-20160616060752

You occasionally could tell that something wasn't right with the vocal, because it didn't ness. act as one expected a female vocal to but otherwise... Iroha is still as much female herself as Len or Ryuto are male, as anon 76.107.180.242 pointed out.

In short, Iroha counts as a "unrealistic" vocal instead of a true "realistic" portrayal of her character. Its because its a male being female, thats it. But there are plenty of cases within sound and music industry of people playing the opposite gender. Its not to say it can't sound realistic as a vocal, it means basically the same thing as comparing Oliver to Len.

I found when I went to describe the vocal, its a touchy subject and a lot of people are sensitive. Just describing what word I was looking got scorn. Remarkable, you don't get it when you go to describe the opposite for some reason and nobody has ever scorned anyone for Len and Ryuto. Just it seems to be an issue for men -> female.

On a side note, a lot of the issues why I went looking for it, is overall, the male voicebox doesn't mimic females that easy. Because of the larger voicebox normally, its not a case of a simple deeper tone, but often males have in addition more resonance due to moisture having to deal with a bigger voicebox. Basically, its often got untrue sounds within it, just like having an adult female voice a young male... Even if the range of the vocal is correct and mimics the common range of someone who is female or a child.

Either way, as you can see, all of thee issues only go back to the vocal itself and none of them are anything to do with the character. Thats why its also a touchy subject, as some within the fandom dislike the idea of a vocaloid being judged on its illustration, since "its the vocal that counts". So basically, some within the fandom count the vocal and illustration as separate entities. :-/