Talk:Utatane Piko/@comment-28908434-20180505145354/@comment-53539-20180505180128

I disagree with Len since their not the same voicetype, but yes ignoring Len there is indeed Yohioloid, Yuu, Arsloid, VY2 and Fukase who are all in the similar "young masculine" bracket, with Yuu, Yohioloid and Fukase being the closet 3 to him. ITs also notable that aside from Yuu (who is lost without Wil and Kyo), both Yohioloid and Fukase are better vocals. Not only are they better at what they do but both have English to boot, plus Fukase has XSY.

Piko as a V2 doesn't even have triphones which smooth out the voicebank.

Plus you'll also likely end up with vocals like Piko's being left behind. I imagine V3 is going to leave tons left behind when its retired. This is better as it validates the need to still invest interest in those engines because of what you can't do in V4.

Piko was never all that popular, he was released with a badly handled trial with Sony being jerks in regards to his trial version... Competing with the Kagamine package and being male (in Japan males are significantly less popular then females). At any rate, the issue was also Piko was never a HQ vocal and was MQ at tops, since the highest vocaloids are confirmed as Luka (lowest of the top), the Appends, Iroha and the VYs. These all had flexible, but stable, vocals that didn't seem much collapse on producers as they used them; an issue most V2 vocals were cursed with in Japan. The tone collapsing impacted quite badly all but these I just mentioned to have to have tone fixing done to them to repair their bad results. So Piko was one of those vocals who wasn't too stable just as Miku also was.

Piko also had issues with being a higher pitched male, meaning the lower range sucked. This may not seem like much, but if your going to go high pitched, you might as well use a female vocal as they can do it better. Being a male who couldn't go very deep wasn't good.