Talk:The Evillious Chronicles

Evilious "Cast List" and other possible translations
(I am only using the term "Cast List" as that's how I treat this. Please regard it how you will.)

Back in April, mothy posted on TwitPic a list of characters in Evilious (urgh, I think I need a spell check on that). I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else because a lot of the names were translated a long time ago from the Story of Evil novel, Aku no Oukoku website, and those that appeared in videos (The ladies in Venomania, for example). However, there are some characters on this list that have existed for a while, but may not entirely be known. It is also the first public mentions of "Blankenheim" and "Abelard"?

Unfortunately, this list does no good for those who can't read Japanese, as a vast majority of posts are in katakana. So, I would appreciate it if there was a translator in here attempting names that aren't known?

Also, may I also propose that the scans from the Akutoku no Judgement page on VocaloidOtaku also be brought over and translated into English? It has a name that I recognize that is on the list on Evillious characters (that of the "Pretentious Mother", Eve). If someone needs raw Japanese scans and does not have them, I will gladly provide them. Thank you!

LVT @ 75.213.77.120 03:41, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

3 Unheard songs-one needs its title translated
Just finished reading mothy's blog, and got ahold of the track listing for his new CD. Total of 11 tracks, including 3 songs that have seemingly been unheard. One of these is an intrumental, translated as Five Minutes Before the Trial. The other 2 are "master of the court" and 茶番カプリシオ. May I get a translation on that last one please?

I got a (likely inaccurate translation) for that last song from Google Translate. It reads: Chaban Kapurishio, in English translated to Kapurishio Farce. Kapurishio=Capriccio/Caprishio? 98.149.148.215 22:31, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Another series? Why isn't it mentioned?
Most everyone knows of the Story of Evil and the Seven Deadly Sins. Some know of the Clockwork Lullaby and, as of late, Original Sin and Pere Noel are known openly.

However, no one mentions the "End of the Four" series.

mothy first mentioned this on his blog waaaaaaaaay back in January where he summed up the songs released in 2010, whether on Nico or on a CD, solo or collab. The first song released in this series is "master of the graveyard" and it's probably likely that "master of the court" is also in this series.

What do the people running this page think? Worth a mention or am I just insane?

75.194.27.191 02:05, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

ReArranging this Article
Ok, I now this going to take a while, but I think is possible. I think this article needs to be arranged to give it a more technical and objective focus. The general sections are fine but I think that they can be improved. Among my ideas for improve are:
 * Add a Timeline template from Wikipedia or from Media Wiki for arrange all the Mothy's songs and events named in the Evils Kingdom's booklet in they temporal placement.
 * Remove the personal opinions and change the redaction.
 * Move the "Speculation and Theory" section to a forum section, similar to Narutopedia.
 * Improve the characters sections, add a sort of small profile showing a illustration, a small biography about the character and the songs in which the character. participated
 * Improve the Geography section.

I'm going to need some help for this, so I will need know who is interested on collaborate. Also, if you have any idea or suggestion for improve further more this article I will happy to hear it ^.^ Adept-eX 18:00, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Capriccio Farce Lyrics
Recently, I went browsing about looking for some more info on mothy's new song Chaban Kapurishio/Capriccio Farce/Clockwork Lullaby 6. What a surprise when I found a link to the Japanese lyrics!! If anyone can translate them, that would be nice. The address of the website I found them at is:http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/kenji_natuki/5917409.html 98.149.148.215 23:11, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Clean up please
Why is there comments debating some of the matters on the page?

This page needs a serious clean, however. I don't know this series well enough to do that.

At least can someone with the knowledge remove the fan debates, the theories and leave only the facts behind the series? One-Winged Hawk 13:11, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I left two topics upwards that it was my intention to tidy up this article, but that I will need help for that. Adept-eX 16:36, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I moved the part which doesn't need to be on the page onto here; don't move it back.


 * Really, seriously, that sort of thing actually on pages invites problems. One-Winged Hawk 20:06, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, some thoughts;
 * I thought we weren't doing English lyrics?
 * Should the lyrics for each song be on its own page
 * non-canon and canon stuff is nice but a little bit leaning towards speculation again, there MUST be a better way to do that without suggesting the same thing as the large chunk of text I removed from the page today. :-/
 * Really, documentation is nice, but too much. We only need references to back up text, however, if you want to keep them I suggest giving them their own page, at least you can link to it.
 * In fact, the information held is the problem overall. This feels almost like a "fanboys nerd corner" rather then an informative wikia page.  There is just so much here I think needs to be have a rethink on the entire page.  I'm not saying you can't have this much information, its just is a bit of a muddle in places and some of it feels like its either excessive or just going overboard.
 * Think of our readers here. Their here to get a rough quick idea on a subject.  This is why this page feels so different to the rest of the pages on the wikia, because it doesn't feel like its trying to explain itself to reader, who possibly barely even knows much about the series to begin with and just wants to know what its about.  Some things are nice to include because its brilliant to leave a reader going "I didn't know that!", but a wall of text is often off putting.  There needs to be more breaking up of the page, to make it a lot more "user friendly".

Thats it. I can't touch this page beyond a few things, thats the problem. I've been ill the last few days so haven't done much on the wikia (threw up less an hour ago as it happens). I'm working on other things, bnut I can faithfully say the last point in particular is very much true. I harder know the series myself and this whole entire page pretty much made me feel less inclined to actually read it just because the way its currently set up.

And please, a touch of speculations as trivia or fan observations in "reception" and "trivia" can be tollerated, but don't put it back on the pages and leave it open to be freely added to like that again. One-Winged Hawk 20:21, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

The Rules
This space is for vocaloidwiki users to share their Theories/Speculations with eachother about mothy's songs. Each Theory is to have a title in Heading 3 format. The theory itself is to be in normal format. If a theory is proven incorrect at a later date by canon information, the theory's title will have a strikethrough put on it. The only acceptable time for a theory to be removed is if it is an epileptic tree or a troll "theory". Please use standard English. Thank you.

Sample Theory: Perre Noel
Perre Noel, the orginization in Fifth Clown, is going to have its own mini-series, the three current components being Fifth Clown, Last Revolver, and Princess Sandman's Gift. Each will tell the story of a member of Perre Noel. Member two, according to Fifth Clown, wil "never get his debut". Mysterious member number four is Rin, and will be in the last of the songs. Luka, member number seven, may not get a song because she is the main character for mothy's canon anyway.

The Four Places from "Heartbeat Clocktower"
Since that particular song came out, people have been speculating about the words at the end of the montage of sins: "Graveyard", "Court", "Hellish Yard", and "Heavenly Yard". It was generally theorized that the Court was the Heavenly Yard and the Graveyard was the Hellish Yard, but now it seems safe to assume that each place is separate. Meiko is named "Master of the Graveyard" in "Heartbeat Clocktower", and Gallerian refers to himself as "Master of the Court" in "Judgment of Corruption". There is also the presence of the true "Master of the Hellish Yard". It seems that we can scrap all earlier theories about the connection between these places.

The "Master Roles" and Gakupo's Role
Continuing from the above idea, we know that Gallerian Marlon was the former guardian of the clocktower. We also know that the Master of the Hellish Yard is Gumi, the Master of the Graveyard is Meiko, and the Master of the Courtyard is Rin Miku (refer to the song master of the court). Miku already has the roll of the burned clockwork doll and Luka is Elluka Clockworker, the hero. The only remaining role we know of is Master of the Heavenly Yard, and the only remaining Vocaloid is Gakupo. Prehaps Gakupo is the Master of the Heavenly Yard?
 * Possibly the Master of the Heavenly Yard is mothy himself, since he uses it as his name and his blog is "the heavenly yard." The name also implies that whoever it is would be God, and mothy did create the universe that his characters live in. Gumi would then be the Devil.
 * Do you know? "Akuno" means Evil, but he is also "mothy". This makes me have a feeling that this means the "Master of the Heavenly Yard" is the Evil himself
 * I find it quite unlikely. Akuno-P, like any other P names, was a name given by the fans. As far as I know, he always refer to himself in the songs' credits as 'mothy', and never 'Akuno-P'.

The Fate of the Immortal Witch
It is obvious that Elluka did something that made her gain immortality, and her powers could do anything (even change her appearance) save for finding and cleansing the Seven Sins before disaster befell. The world already falls into ruin because of it. In Desert Bluebird, it mentions there about an old woman, and it could be possible that the old woman might be Elluka herself, although this can still be uncertain because she is immortal and therefore can't grow old, unless somehow, the ones who were trying to collect the sins managed to beat her, or the Seven Sins were too much for her to handle, so she lost her immortality.

The Thousand-Years of Speculation and a Bluebird
The idea of "1000 years" has appeared a lot lately. First, the song 1000-year Lullaby (referring to Clockwork Lullaby). Second, the song numbers have 3 digits, and 000 through 999 is 1000 years. Third, the 1000-year tree (the Eldoh's Tree). This obviously has some sort of significance in the story. I think that the number 1000 is going to be significant in upcoming songs, specifically in Gumi's song for Wrath and the 8th song in the Deadly Sin Series. It is possible that the sins all came together and the climax occurs in the 1000th year, or Elluka loses her immortality, or both. The Desert Bluebird is sure to come up in a later song as well. More than likely, it will have to do wit the sins assembling, because Gallerian says that his wish will come true once they've assembled, and the bluebird grants wishes. In the song "Desert Bluebird" in the end, they find an ocean in Lucifenia. This ocean might be the ocean where Regret Message had occured, and even maybe, the two main characters there are likely, again, reincarnations of Rilliane and Allen. Some keywords are: "By everyone's hands, the world is recreated. (connection to Heartbeat Clocktower)" and "Even during the hard times, we're always together. (connection to Story of Evil)".

Awakening of the Sinful Objects
According to "Girl of Miniature Garden" and "Heartbeat Clocktower", each sin is represented by an object, like the scissors for Invidia and the Glass for Gula. In "Heartbeat Clocktower", it is said that the 'bloody scissors' and the 'violet sword' has not awakened yet while Conchita and Rilliane appeared as persons. Since "Repulsive Food Eater Conchita" and "Daughter of Evil" came out before "Hearbeat Clocktower" while "Tailor Shop of Enizaka" and "Madness of Duke Venomania" came out after it, it can be assumed that the awakening of the objects are related to their creation date by mothy in real life.

A possibility is that the souls of the 'sinners' after death resided in the 'objects', which were then collected by the 'collector' AKA Gallerian Marlon (ironically he became one of them as well), which he stored in the Clocktower. After a while, the objects would 'awaken' and recite a song about their sinful lives. The time the objects awakened is the time mothy created the songs in real life.

The Objects and the Resounding Song
Somewhat related to the above (this might count as two theories), the song "Lu Li La, the Resounding Song" references the pairs of objects from "Chrono Story", as well as the "Sinful Objects". The last line of the song says "They all return to the forest, with an uncontainable amount of anger." In Heartbeat Clocktower it says that the Collector built a small theatre in the forest, which, if the above theory that the objects are stored in the clocktower/theatre is correct, means that the setting for the "Wrath" song may be the theatre itself.

Also, it's possible that the objects shown in "Chrono Story" may have something to do with the fates of the sinners. For example, Gluttony was said to be a seed, and the picture shown was of a pomegranate. Pomegranates are important in the myth of Persephone, where the number of seeds that she ate determined how long she had to stay in the Land of the Dead. But Conchita's sin is Gluttony, which would imply that she ate it all, condemning her forever to the "Land of the Dead" and making her it's master, the Master of the Graveyard.
 * The Forest could be referring to Hell, considering the fact that Gumi (Wrath) is the Master Of The Hellish Yard, and the Sins apparently end up going to the forest. Sinful figures would naturally end up going to Hell.
 * Unlikely, as I doubt that Adam and Eve would be living in Hell at the beginning of time.
 * However, it could be thought that since Eve hadn't died (and thus left the Original Sin behind her), the forest wouldn't have been the Hell.

Wrath/Ira, The Hellish Yard and it's Master
At the end of Judgement of Corruption, Gumi is obviously the "Master Of The Hellish Yard", but the ending, despite listing Kaito as "Gallerian Marlon" and Miku as "The Daughter", only lists Gumi as "???". Mothy rarely keeps the casting of a significant character vague unless he plans on expanding on their story (or for drama and since Gumi's song is next this one doesn't seem likely). The Hellish Yard is a prominent aspect to Mothy's songs and it seems likely that he'd expand on it, and so it is possible that Wrath will be about The Master Of The Hellish Yard herself.
 * Kaito in Tailor shop of Enbizaka is listed as ??? too. Maybe this is "Blue", member 2 of Pere Noel (this in not likely but its a possibility).

The upcoming fight of 'Good' and 'Bad' (?)
In Heartbeat Clocktower, it is said: "When all the songs are recited, it is believed that Utopia will be accomplished". Now there is only one of the Seven Sin's songs remaining, Wrath, associated with the Devil herself. While it's unclear that "utopia" means in this context, one could believe that as all the sins have gathered together, the 'blood-stained scissors' and 'purple sword' would awaken. Even if it's already said that referring to these items was purely to imply that the songs of Lust and Envy would be on their way in real life, it also could be speculated that Elluka Clockworker (who took Kayo Sudou's scissors) and Gakupo (who has been speculated to be Master of the Heavenly Yard) would 'awaken' back to the story, possibly to fight the Devil.

However, as implying the scissors and the sword doubtfully would hint to the fight, it could just be assumed that the aforementioned quote from Heartbeat Clocktower would.

Welcome to a happy place... Utopia
Right off the bat, I'm going to say that Madame Merry-go-round is part of the Evillious Chronicles. Why? Because of the way Miku says "Utopia". Mothy could have easily used "risoukyou" or a similar substitute for this word. However, he chose to make it "yuutopia", just like in Judgement of Corruption and Heartbeat Clocktower. This has to have some significance, because of how easily he could have not used "yuutopia". It may have to do with MA and Marlon's Utopia that is completed once the songs are all recited. Note that Yu-u-to-pi-a and ri-so-u-kyo-u both have five syllables and it would be a perfect substitute.
 * If this is true then Red Shoe Parade must be Canon as both Red Shoe Parade and Madame Merry-go-round mention the Shadow Parade

A Deeper Meaning of Heartbeat Clocktower and the Mystery of the Green Gear
In the beginning of Heartbeat Clocktower, Miku (the clockwork doll) is represented sleeping. And as you can see at the bottom right is a green gear spinning. A little later, Meiko (the master of the graveyard) has a red gear spinning at her upper right. Afterwards, Rin (the master of the courtyard) has a yellow gear at her upper left. And after the presentation of lust and envy, all the 3 gears show up in their right position. Soon, a "lulila" song where the seven deadly sins are shown with their Latin names. And afterwards is a picture of Hansel & Gretel with the names of the 4 yards (hellish yard, heavenly yard, courtyard, graveyard) in the series. What's interesting is if you could just flip the picture, it shows that the graveyard and courtyard are in their right position but the green gear which represents Miku is equivalent to the Hellish Yard. Which might mean that Miku is the master of the hellish yard. But you might infer that maybe it's actually Gumi who represents the green gear since she IS the Master of the hellish yard and she is also green in color.
 * Another interesting idea is that the 3 colors (the RED kimono, the GREEN sash, and the YELLOW hairpin) are also seen in the Tailor Shop of Enbizaka. And as we all know, Luka killed all the three who owned them (Miku, MEIKO, and Rin, the master of the 3 yards) and at the end, he kills Kaito, with the color BLUE. Which might actually mean that Kaito is the master of the heavenly yard since he is the only one missing. The 4 colors (BLUE, RED, GREEN, and YELLOW) are also seen in Re_birthday as the four people (Miku, KAITO, MEIKO, and Rin) who suffered.
 * Another interesting idea following this is that the four gears have to do with the color scheme. If Yellow/Red are on the top, orange is in the middle (Len). If Green/Red are on the right, they are opposites, so the ones on the left are opposites. The opposite of Yellow is Purple, making Gakupo the missing gear. The gear between the bottom gears (Green/Purple) is Blue (Kaito or Miku). If green is taken to mean Gumi and Blue to mean Miku, then the order is: grave/Meiko, court/Rin, hellish/Gumi, heavenly/Gakupo, upper/Len, lower/Miku. That leaves the gear behind Kaito at the beginning and end of the PV, making Kaito the middle Gear. Of course, this can go many different ways.


 * However, either Kaito or Miku is the master of the court according to the upcoming song, master of the court. Therefore, Rin can't be. What a wonderful conundrum we're in, right? Not only that, but since Rin and Len are the butler and maid of the graveyard's master... This is impossible to figure out.
 * While the introductory music is playing in Heatbeat Clocktower, Six gears are spinning towards the grey one in the top right corner. They are the colours of Rin, Meiko, Luka, Gakupo, Kaito and Miku. Just before they reach the grey gear, a lime green one spins quickly down the left side. This gear must be Gumi's.

The Objects Of Miniature Garden Girl

 * "Hatsumei", which is close to Miku's surname Hatsune, means invention in japanese. That is why Miku is represented as the clockwork doll, the invention of Kaito. "Kagami", which is close to the Kagamine twin's surname, means mirror. That is why they are represented as the two mirrors. KAITO and MEIKO with no surnames, are represented as the spoon and glass respectively. KAITO being represented by a spoon and MEIKO being represented by a glass may refer to their character items: KAITO's character item is ice cream ( sometimes those in a tub, hence the use of a spoon ), and MEIKO's is sake ( rice wine, and people normally drink wine in a glass ). The eggplant has a variety called the "chinese white sword" which might explain the Venom Sword.

The Event at Year 1000

 * This could be something between Elluka and Ma. Both of them are trying to collect the objects associated with the seven deadly sins, and if Elluka got the medicine after infiltrating Pere Noel, then they both have three objects. At year 1000 the wrath event happens and they're both going after the object for it. Whatever happens this leads to the "utopia" being created.
 * However, Ma 'The Lonely Magi' could also be Elluka. Magi could be a play off of Maga, which is Latin for Sorceress. So, Ma the Lonely Sorceress. Guess who else is lonely? In the Chrono Story Document, it says: The Magi Ma. She who is now named "Elluka Clockworker". This could reference to Ma being Elluka. Even as it also refers to more than one person, Elluka is alone in the video. The song mentions her in losing everything and gaining eternal life, such as in the Document.
 * It might be possible that 'Ma' and Elluka are the same person after all. In the Evillious Chronicle document, it has been shown that Elluka could use 'Body Swap' technique. From what's been shown, she has only used that technique on characters also played by the same Vocaloid (Lukana Octo and Kayo Sudou both are also played by Megurine Luka), therefore maintaining Luka as her 'actress'. However, it might be possible that she used Body Swap on a Kaito-character around the time of Heartbeat Clocktower. I don't know much about 'Recollective Music Box', though...so this theory might be false.
 * And there's something else. "Utopia", in Latin, may mean "good place", but may also mean "a place that doesn't exist". Besides that, in the end of Judgement of Corruption, it is said that "utopia" will be created when all sin fragments are collected, and in this point of the storyline almost all of the sins are collected (because Judgement of Corruption is the last "sin song" of the chronology"), except for Wrath. Maybe the world or dimension where the songs take part will be destroyed when Wrath is collected. I have some theories about why it would happen, but I need to research more before I can say something.
 * If, in the year 1000, the world really gets destroyed when Wrath is collected and "utopia" is created, it would fit the fact that there aren't any other dates after 999 in the CD booklet.

re_Visiting "re_Birthday"

 * I don't know if I'm the only one to think it, but it hit me tonight while watching a subbed version. re_Birthday Len could very well be "Hansel", not Allen. I know that it is generally accepted that re_Birthday is a response to Regret Message, but Mothy has said with particular relation to this song that he wanted people to come up with their own interpretation. And, if at the time he was trying to conceal the bigger story, he wouldn't have contradicted us when we connected it to the Story of Evil. All of the other songs in the Clockwork Lullaby Series are part of the greater whole, with the clocktower and the clockwork dolls. It seems odd that just re_Birthday would be connected to a single, individual sin.
 * re_Birthday makes a very convincing continuation to Regret Message, and there are a great deal of PVs that support this interpretation. But the original PV is a simple flip of the image from Clockwork Lullaby, showing Len instead of Rin. The only thing that really changes over the course of the song is the color of the characters shown on the upper edge of the video. Where begins my theory.
 * The twins, "Hansel and Gretel", were the ones who unleashed the Deadly Sins upon the world. The "voice" that speaks to Len from the clockwork spring calls him a "sinful" boy and tells him he will stay in the room forever. The lyrics at the top of the video are green. Most people interpret this as Miku, since Len killed her in Servant of Evil, and she would be the focus of his sins. But the color green used is not Miku's aqua-green, it's the deeper green of Gumi's gear from Heartbeat Clocktower. Len could perhaps be trapped in Hell, under the dominion of the Master of the Hellish Yard, because of his part in creating the Deadly Sins. The "red chains, the color of blood spilt" could represent the twins' real mother, killed while trying to reach her children, and the "blue shackles, the color of someone's tears", could be their adopted father, horrified by what his wife has done.
 * He mentions near the end of the song in reference to the lullaby and a tiny light, "Surely this is the message you sent me". It never directly implies Regret Message, and instead, the emphasis on the lullaby is closer to Clockwork Lullaby. And in the end of Chrono Story, the last part of the song is the twins, singing the familiar "RuRiRa", which never shows up in the context of the Story of Evil. And directly after mentioning the lullaby and the message, the background of re_Birthday turns yellow, to match Clockwork Lullaby.
 * .......sorry for the long post. ^_^;
 * So I'm not the only one who feels Re_birthday is a bit different from the others. There is just one thing I noticed. The theory above says that Re_birthday doesn't have a connection with Regret Message but actually it does(in a way). If you pause at about 3:32 at the original PV of Re_birthday where Len says "You're giving me a message" you can see the phrase "If we could be reborn..." in inverted order with a yellow background (implying it was from Rin). Since Regret message is not officially in the story of evil, we can assume that these two songs are related. Who knows? maybe the Rin from Regret Message is Gretel...
 * Regret Message is Story of Evil canon as of the release of Daughter of White, because Haku meets Rin on the shore after she becomes a nun.
 * I went back and watched the re_Birthday PV again, and I don't see the inverted message. But if it is there, Gretel and Hansel could be wishing to be reborn together as well, in a world where the deadly sins are no more. I think it's most significant that the "RuRiRa" lullaby never shows up in the Story of Evil, but it is mentioned in connection to Hansel and Gretel.
 * The inverted phrase is there. It's just really fast and lasts for about half a second. Also it's in japanese so I don't blame you if you didn't see it. ^_^

A Placement in the Chronology for Rin Kagamine's "Clockwork Lullaby"

 * So Rin's "Clockwork Lullaby" has no placement in Mothy's entire storyline, just that it is the first song in the "Clockwork Lullaby" series with the "Lu Li La" pattern. But what if the Rin in that song is another Clockwork Doll of Gallerian Marlon? Like Miku in "The Girl of the Miniture Garden", but not as important to him as Miku. She says in the song "You carry with you a sin of Greed", Gallerian had with him the sin of Greed. So she could have been an earlier doll of his.
 * Also she could have a connection to Re_Birthday since Len in that song hears a voice singing "Lu Li La". It could have been Rin from Clockwork Lullaby. So this Rin could have been reborn from either Rillianne from "Story of Evil" (presuming she died after living a life as a nun) or it could even be Gretel.
 * Either way I think this song is connected to both "Judgement of Corruption" and most definitely "Re_Birthday" whether that song is related to the "Story of Evil" or not. The only one who knows for sure is Mothy himself. So we will have to wait until he gives out more information.
 * It's true that Rin's "Clockwork Lullaby" is one of the most vague songs in the series. I find it weird that it doesn't have an alternate title like the other clocwork lullaby songs. This could mean that the song simply talks about the lullaby "Ru Ri Ra". My own interpretation of the song is that maybe the one that's singing is the clocktower only using Rin as a vocal for the song.
 * Perhaps the 'Clockwork Lullaby' is the song played by the various clockwork objects throughout the story? From the recollective orgel, then the clockwork doll, and finally the clocktower. When they say they sing 'Ru Ri Ra', they mean they are singing the song 'Clockwork Lullaby'.
 * Maybe the singer of 'Clockwork Lullaby' is the "reborn" Rilliane, as seen in 'Heartbeat Clocktower'? The lyrics describing her suggest that her 'other half' AKA Allen is still missing. So this song is intended to Allen so they could be together again?
 * Or possibly Member 4 of Perre Noel, she seems to mention a few of the sins indirectly ie. "Memories like a flower" Lust (Lust became a flower in Chrono Story), "Everything is in me" Gluttony ("Devour everything in the entire world" from Conchita), "What can be gained from a delusion?" Envy (Kayo was deluded ino thinking that Kaito was her husband), "If your tired then please sleep" Sloth (Now plase sleep being the "Saa" phrase), "What do you hope for and what will you obtain?" Greed (Gallerian hoped for a Utopia but will he obtain it?) and Rin sining says Pride to me but my theory seems a bit far fetched.

Wrath/Ira is Just a Red Herring

 * This isn't much of a theory rather than just a wild guess, but I think all the references towards Wrath having a big part in the story might just be a huge red herring. Like what happened before Princess Sleep-Bringer came out. Many people believed that it would have something to do with the 'Clockwork Doll' due to Chrono Story PV associating Sloth with the clockwork doll, and that the song 'Girl of Miniature Garden' fits pretty well into the sin of Sloth. Then the actual song came out and have little connection to the clockwork doll...I'm guessing the same thing will happen with the Wrath song.
 * I see the point that maybe we're just expecting too much from Wrath/Ira.The only downside to what you're saying is, if we take a look at the CD booklet and look at the dates, there aren't anymore dates available aside from 999 (oddly enough if we turn it upside down it becomes 666 ^_^") unless mothy tries to squeeze it in somewhere.

The Clockwork Doll, the Vessel of Sin

 * In the ending dialogue of Princess Sleep-Bringer, Elluka and Gumilia talked about 'the vessel having been carried away'. And the title of the second chapter of Judgement of Corruption is 'The Girl of Miniature Garden and the Vessel of Sin'. It might be possible that the sins collected by Elluka are stored in some sort of a vessel. This vessel, I speculate, is Gallerian's clockwork doll. It has never been specified when the doll is made, and it might have existed for 300 years older than Gallerian himself. Another theory is that the original 'vessel' is not the doll, but was used for crafting it, making it one of the parts of the clockwork doll.
 * I think that you are complicating yourself. When she talked about the vessel of the sin probably she was talking about the sinful items, in this case the Clockwork Doll.
 * I think the main problem here is confusing Gallerian's "clockwork doll" with Sloth's sinful item which is simply a "doll". Based on the translation of the bonus track in evils kingdom (Ru Ri Ra, Ru Ri Ra resounding sound) the item mentioned for sloth wasn't specifically the "clockwork doll" but it simply said " The DOLL moving in the invisible wind". And also I've noticed that Sloth is really confusing when it comes to its sinful item. Some say that her "Gift" is her item which was never mentioned in the bonus track. The vessel of sin they're probbly talking about is most probably the sinful items or "sin fragments"(as mentioned by Gallerian himself)

The Role of "Pride/Superbia" connected to the larger whole
That being said, if I'm wrong and it's been proven that Rilliane and Conchita have no affiliation, you can scrap the last paragraph and a half. My final piece of evidence is that Rilliane's wish was to be reborn as Allen's twin once again. Hansel and Gretel were also twins. This can't be coincidence. Especially since they share the same vocaloids (minor point but still). I'm leaning towards a theory that Miku's original sin somehow fractured the twins' souls, and those separated parts happened to bond with the most powerful sin - Pride. Re_Birthday is Allen/Hansel's souls joining back together.
 * (this was originally connected to the "Re_birthday" discussion above)
 * It's a bit of a stretch, but has anyone considered that the souls/reincarnations/gears/clockworks or what have you of Rilliane/Allen are somehow bound to Hansel/Gretel? I'll admit that it's pushing it, and it's not entirely likely that the two would be affiliated with one specific sin.
 * On the other hand, though, if we accept that the Green text in the original PV of Re_Birthday is the master of the hellish yard (Gumi/Satan/Ira), then it becomes a little more likely. Consider that pride is generally known as the worst of the seven. The patron demon for Pride is Lucifer, otherwise known as Satan. If we make another leap of faith and assume that mothy is both aware of this and chooses to make something of it (neither of which are guarantees, granted), then we could very well have a connection between the Court, the Graveyard, and the Hellish Yard.
 * That is, Gallerian Marlon/Avaritia (master of the court) became lost in the hellish yard, which is ruled by Gumi/Satan/Ira. On the other hand, Rilliane/Superbia is the manifestation of pride, which can be considered equivalent to wrath, which we could take to mean that Rilliane and Satan have some yet-unknown relationship. The Graveyard factors in if we take yet ANOTHER guess and assume that Conchita (master of the graveyard)'s companions are Rilliane/Superbia and Allen.
 * Back to my original idea. It's generally assumed that Wrath has a fairly large role in the story due to all the references to the forest, etc. Not to mention all the stuff about the master of the hellish yard and 1000 years and everything. However, Pride (which is usually ranked higher, not lower than wrath) has only had a minor role in the story thus far (well, minor in the big picture. The fact that the Story of Evil has been fleshed out the most means very little regarding the overarching storyline). I can't help but doubt that someone like mothy who loves the little details like that would make the most important one (Pride is the only sin that's appeared at the top of every list of the 7 sins ever) have such a small impact overall. As such, I'm going to use this as another calling point towards Rilliane/Allen being related in some way to Hansel/Gretel.
 * I'd go so far as to say that Rilliane is Gretel's reincarnation and Allen Hansel's, except we know that Hansel dies after Allen.

The Four Masters and Miku as the Master of the Court

 * We know that the Master of the Graveyard is possibly the reincarnation of Conchita. This could imply that anyone who acted on the seven deadly sins can reincarnate to any of the masters. In the CD evils court, the song Master of the court is sang by Miku (most likely Margarita). If you think about it both of them died depending on their sin. Conchita died by eating herself (gluttony) while Margarita died by drinking her "gift" claiming that she'll "sleep forever" (sloth). It seems that whoever dies that doesn't regret what they did will be reborn as a "master"
 * That would be more plausible if Gallerian Marlon hadn't specifically proclaimed himself to be "master of the court". I could be wrong about this, but chances are that mothy wasn't just looking for something that fit when he used that line.
 * I find it more likely that Miku as the Clockwork Doll is singing "Master of the court", since we know for sure that she is connected to Gallerian Marlon.
 * According to "Heartbeat Clocktower", Gallerian built a small theatre in the forest, and what he loved more in that place was the Clockwork Doll that "acted as the director". Well, I think this have some connection with "master of the court"... And yes, I believe that the Master is the Clockwork Doll (Miku), because "master of the court" offical English title (according to KarenT files) is "Successor of the Court".Gallerian called the doll "daughter", then it would make sense that he left his "role" to his "heir" after his death. If my theory is right, then the Clocktower is the real "court".

The Sloth Item

 * A lot of people tend to think that the Clockwork Doll may be the sloth item, but this to me, doesn't seem to be the case. First of all, it doesn't really make any sense at all how you can connect Margarita Blankenheim and her, other then Lu li la the Resounding Song. But current evidence doesn't seem to point to it! In Chrono Story, when the deadly sins are listed, the picture of Sloth the Wind is of herself, and this seems to be odd placement because if it IS the sloth item, it's the only deadly item shown ( besides from Wrath. We don't know what it is yet. ) And, in Judgement of Corruption, Gallerian states that he is collecting money FOR his 'daughter' , and he is trying to obtain the deadly sin items ; which would seem to represent the ' vessels ' of sin. Plus, the title of the ' chapter ' is ' Girl of a Miniature Garden AND The Vessel of Sin. ' It's not ' Girl of a miniature garden, the vessel of Sin ' which would point to the fact that they're the same, but it isn't, and it points to the fact that the Clockwork Doll is something different from the Vessel of Sin. In Lu li la the Resounding song it states that ' a doll on the wind picks up dirt with a spoon ' , but this seems to tie in with the close connection between the doll and Gallerian, and this song came on the Evils Kingdom CD, which was a while before we knew that Margarita Blankenheim even existed, so it might not even be her at all! To me, it makes more sense that the sloth item is the container of Margarita's 'gift' , because it was the one thing that carried people to their end , and contained the poison that caused people to ' sleep forever '. Plus, in the video we actually see this container presented to us ( in the background in the title, and a short flash after Miku says ' From me to you it's a present! ' and then the chorus starts ) . And when Gumilia is sent to investigate Toragay, she discovers that the ' vessel ' had been taken away. Margarita would've most definetely had the container of her poison with her when she suicided with it, and to me it makes more sense that the container of the ' gift ' is Margarita's ' vessel ' of sin.
 * The vessel is a generic therm that perfectly can be referring to the Doll. Anyway the song Miniature's Garden Girl hints that the Clockwork Doll is in fact a Sinful Item. There's a part where the Mirrors, The Spoon and the Glass mocks of the Doll saying her that she "is the same sort of thing than them". This discussion was in the talk page of the Seven Deadly Sins's article, probably you will want to continue this discussion there.
 * Has anyone possibly thought that 'Gift' and the Clockwork Doll can both be the item?
 * I think this has already been discussed in here. According to RuRiRa resounding sound, the sloth item is a DOLL not the "CLOCKWORK DOLL". If you think about it the sinful items don't have to be used in order to be a sin vessel. Take for example Pride and Greed. Their sinful items wasn't used for their sin to be enacted unlike Envy that needed "Kayo's scissors" to be done. The items for sins like Pride and Greed take on a more symbolic role. A doll symbolizes Sloth because it doesn't move if you don't move it.
 * If it's any hint, the lyrics of Nemurase Hime also mentions "Like a decorative doll, I was only used day by day"

Big Al Will Appear in the Next Song?

 * Just a small thing, but I noticed in the Evillious Chronicles Document, the evil general in Akutoku no Judgement is names Tony Ausdin. Perhaps Tony is a reference to Tonio? This makes Big Al the only Engloid not yet referenced by mothy.
 * Leon is Leonhart Abbadonnia, Allen's adoptive father in Story of Evil
 * Lola is Lolan Eve, a victim of Venomania
 * Miriam is Mariam Futapie, appearing in Daughter of Evil novel, she's also Mirigan Adi, a victim of Venomania
 * Sweet Ann is Queen Anne in Daughter of Evil novel, and Ann Lee Sweets in Venomania
 * Prima is Priema Soap in Venomania
 * Sonika is Sonica Sonic in Venomania, and there are people who think the 'master of the hellish yard' might be her instead of Gumi,
 * Tonio might be Tony Ausdin
 * Ummm I could be wrong but I thought that Mothy had listed Big Al as King Arth, Rillianne's and Allen's Father.
 * Uhh...you're right. Never mind this theory.
 * Perhaps Tony Ausdin may be Gakupo. In Lust, we can read "Serial dissapearences in Asmodin area". Perhaps, Audin may be a contracted word of Asmodin

Elluka Clockworker and her 3 "forms"
Elluka Clockwoker is known to have the "Body Switch" technique in which she has the power to switch or merge herself with another person. In the PV for Chrono Story, when Elluka is first inroduced, she appears next to 2 other women; making a total of 3 women: a Blonde, a Pink Haired woman, and another women with Black hair whose face is not seen. The Blonde appears for the rest of the PV but the other two make no other apearance within it. This is because mothy was introducing us to the different "looks" Elluka will take throughout the Evillious Chronicles. The Blonde is none other than Elluka's "Original" form while the others are bodies that she takes over. In Madness of Duke Venomania, she takes over Lukana Octo's body and therefore becomes the Pink Haired Elluka. She retains this form for some time (including the Story of Evil and the Sloth song) until it becomes too thin and too weak that she must find a new body. That is when she approaches Kayo Sudo and uses the "Body switch" technique to merge with Kayo's body. In Kayo's character card, it is revealed that Kayo had "Beautiful Black Hair" that turned "Peach." The Black Haired woman in Chrono Story could be Kayo Sudo in her original form before Elluka merged with her. It could be that Elluka was the one who actually commited the sin of Envy or just acted upon the feelings of Kayo Sudo who was "crazy from the beggining." Furthermore, it is known that the Envy sin is the only sin in which the "actor" does not die or repent, and that is because Elluka remained in this body and left to continue searching for the remaining sin fragments.

Uh, sorry, but this theory's likely inaccurate. In the mini-PV for Millenium/1000-Year Wiegenlied/Spirit of ELD, it shows Elluka with blond hair.
 * After watching the mini-PV, the only clear references to Elluka seen are ones where she has Pink hair. There is an image of a lady with long Blonde hair that appears after an image of Allen, but it does clearly show that it is Elluka (However, it should be noted that in the same image, Kyle Marlon, who has blue hair, also apears with "blonde" looking hair.). Could you please inform as to when this potrayal of Elluka apears, I might have missed it. Also, if someone could translate this pagethat came in the Evils Kingdom CD, I'm sure it'll clear some things up.
 * I disagree. Actually this theory makes a lot of sense. When I first saw Chrono story I kept wondering who that black haired lady was. If we apply this theory to the dates it is really accurate. So at first we know that Elluka starts out as a blonde and we all know that Lust comes after that. When she switched with Lukana she became pink haired. She keeps this body until Sloth (proven that she makes a cameo after the dialogue with pink hair). And it just so happens that Envy comes after sloth where she switch bodies again.

Guumilia: The Sniper's Motive
Guumilia was chosen by Elluka Clockworker to become her apprentice, and when this happened, she aperantly also gained immortality (Guumilia was chosen by Elluka in 490 and is still alive during Sloth in 609). At the end of Sloth, Elluka and Guumilia decide to head to Lucifernia to find out more about Pere Noel. They end up joining Pere Noel; Elluka becoming Seven the Magician and Guumilia Eight the Sniper (who is the one that killed Hansel in Five the Clown). Pere Noel is an organization that is also trying to collect all the Sin fragments. During the events of The Story of Evil, Elluka Clockworker gives the Venom Sword (the Lust fragment) to Keel Freesis (who I'm guessing later founded the Freesis Foundation based on the last name). In PV for Sloth, it is revealed that The Freesis Foundation is investigating the crimes that Pere Noel is commiting. In the PV for The Last Revolver, Guumilia falls in love for someone who is on "the side of Justice." It is possible that the Sniper's Love is someone who works for the Freesis Foundation and is investigating a crime speculated to be commited by Pere Noel. It should be noted that also in the PV for The Last Revolver, the Sniper's Love is shown to have a sword of some sort with him (There is a point in the PV where the screen even zooms into the sword). The Sniper's Love was in charge of protecting the Venom Sword and when Julia (Ms. Santa) found out, she ordered Guumilia to kill him and take the sword. Becuase Guumilia comited suicide, it unknown who got hold of the Venom Sword.
 * Incedently, The artist of many of mothy's PVs (including The Last Revolver) Ichika, released a doujin called "Memento" in which a lot of mothy's stories were told in a short manga like fashion. The pages for the Last Revolver chapter in Japanese can be found here, here, here, here, and here. A translated version's available here.
 * Also, The Last Revolver PV shows and/or consolidates Guumilia as a permanent member of Pere Noel, pointing that she may have betreayed Elluka at some point (probably at the event stated at year 611: "The Battle of Marigold Plateau"), but her reasons were never mentioned (they may be shown at the upcoming and last song for Wrath, but this could be unlikely).
 * The thing is, are we sure yet that Gumilia is The Sniper? There are no evidence of this yet, other than the fact that Gumi is casted for both of them. Gumilia might have simply not join Pere Noel since the beginning while assisting Elluka (who joined Pere Noel) from outside the syndicate. The Sniper might have been another girl entirely.
 * In the new version of the Fifth Pierrot, for Evil's Court Album, the Sniper is sung by Gumi and the Magician by Luka, thus proving that #7 the Magician was Elluka and #8 the Sniper was Gumilia.
 * Like I said, Gumi is casted for both The Sniper and Guumilia. The Sniper being voiced by Gumi doesn't really prove anything...
 * I forgot to mention that at the end of the "Sloth" Song, Gumilia is holding a gun and she and Elluka went to Lucifenia, the place where Pere Noel is located. Thus, making it that Gumilia has a high chance of being the sniper. Also in Fifth Pierrot, Elluka asked Lemy to go with her(I think she said that because she wanted to get "Hansel" on the team.) but Lemy tells Julia, thus making the Sniper shoot him. That means that the Sniper and Elluka were close people, giving more hints that the Sniper is Gumilia.

The Kagamine's role in Mothy's canon
Okay so I noticed that there was a discussion whether the souls of Hansel and Gretel and Allen and Rilliane are connected. At first I thought it was absurd but I noticed something in RuRiRa RuRiRa resounding song that can back up that theory. If you look at the line that says "When it was polished on the night of the full moon, the stone became four mirrors shining brightly along a small bottle" we can interpret the night with a full moon as the song abandonment on a moonlit night. I also noticed that it said the stone turned into FOUR mirrors which can stand for four people coincidentally we have two sets of twins. And the final one is the little glass bottle which we all know appears both in Regret message and abandonment on a moonlit night(and moonlit bear).

Gumina Glassred's Role?
In the Evils Kingdom cover ([|this image]), all Vocaloids who sing in the Seven Deadly Sins are shown together, as their respective characters, except for Len, Miku, and Gumi. This leaves us with Gumi, who appears as Gumina Glassred. Unlike Len and Miku, whose roles are largely connected to the story, Gumina's role is pretty minimal. She DID get more exposition than Venomania's other victims, but it's still small. Furthermore, Venomania's own role in the story is also less than the other sinners (Conchita is master of the graveyard, Kayo gets possessed by Elluka, etc). Perhaps she will get a bigger role?
 * In Len's case, he appears as Allen Abbaddonia, He isn't really a 'sinner', but since he's Rilliane's, who is a sinner, 'other half', it kinda counts.
 * In Miku's case, she appears as the 'Clockwork Doll', since Margarita Blankenheim's existence hasn't been revealed yet. However, the 'Doll' is Gallerian's 'daughter' and has been shown to have a larger role in the overall story.
 * On mothy's website for Evils Kingdom, he gives a short bio on each character in the cover; which includes Gumina Glassred. It says that after the Venomania event she went on to become a major political leader who focused on woman rights. However, her background is very ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if later we learn more about just how she made a fool of Venomania.

The Devil
So far, we have two instances where the Devil is mentioned : Venomania mentioned he made a contract with the Devil, and Twiright Prank, where the twins encountered the Devil when they got lost. According to Twiright Prank, the Devil mentioned 'even if I eat the whole world, I still won't be satisfied'. This may connect the Devil with Gluttony, or Conchita. However, the Venomania event took place 200 years before Conchita, so it's unlikely. The most possible explanation is that the Devil is the master of the hellish yard. I doubt mothy will just leave the Devil as 'just a usual devil in stories'
 * I'm agree, probably the TwiRight Prank's demon is Conchita after she became the Master of the Graveyard, it fits well in the chronology due Evil Food Eater Conchita occurs before Story of Evil.


 * Now, about the Demon who did the deal with Venomania, also I had the feeling that was the Master of the Hellish Yard. Chrono Story shows the silhouette of four women from Venomia's harem (Meilis Belzenia, Gumina Glassred, Mikulia Greonio, Lukana Octo) near the end, hinting the possibility that they carried some of the Sins to their respective countries. Probably the Venomania's charm was imbued with other Sins, this as a Master of the Hellish Yard's plot to spread them through the world.
 * Also it's weird the reason why Gumina Glassred humiliated to Sateriajis (considering that she was his childhood friend). The flashback shows that Gumina's expression changes suddenly, almost as if were possessed by something. This situation were one the reasons (if not the main one) that caused the Sateriajis' decision to sell his soul at change of the power to charm to any woman. I won't be surprised that the Master of the Hellish Yard was behind this.

The Meaning Behind "The end of Hansel"

 * This theory is closely related to the "Re_birthday" theory above, in that Rllilane and Allen are reincarnations of Hansel and Gretel. However, I say that each Kagamines in the Evillious Chronicles are the reincarnations of Hansel and Gretel, including Lemy Abelard. Which means Hansel got reincarnated as Conchita's butler, who got reincarnated as Allen, who got reincarnated as Lemy. Gretel got reincarnated as Rindo Blume, who got reincaranted as Conchita's maid, who reincarnated as Rilliane, who got reincaranted as Number 4 in Pere Noel, who got reincarnated as Yellow Hairpin Girl. Note that Hansel's reincarnation stops at Lemy Abelard, while Gretel's continues as the 'Yellow Hairpin Girl' in Enbizaka, thus "the end of Hansel". After Lemy's death, his soul was trapped in master of the hellish yard's domain, chained in red and blue chains for his sins. Then after a long while, Gretel, probably in her final reincarnation in 'Heartbeat Clocktower' sung 'Clockwork Lullaby'. This is the song Hansel heard in 'Re_birthday', triggering his rebirth. The counterproof to this theory, however, is that Conchita's servants are still there when she became 'master of the graveyard', since the main singers are Rin and Len.

Story of Evil Overall role

 * There has been a lot of theories going about that The Sin of Pride/Story of Evil has a much bigger role in the overall storyline with Pride being the most Deadliest and evil of the sins and the fact the Rillianne/Gretal and Allen/Hansel are played by the Vocaloid Rin Kagamine & Len Kagamine, so a lot of people are putting a direct connection between them (whether it is true or not, we don't know for sure yet) so some are saying Mothy will reveal that the "Story of Evil" will have a bigger role. But I think that Mothy has already given Pride enough of a role itself, so he will not expand on it any further then it already has.
 * Fisrt of all, unlike all the other sins, Pride is represented with 2 Vocaloids, the Kagamine Twins. That may have been Mothy's own way of stating that perhaps Pride is such a terrible sin to have that it needed to manifested itself within 2 souls. Whether this itself has anything to do with Hansel & Gretal is still debatable.
 * And plus Pride is the only Sin to have it's own series within itself. Sure Sloth is most possibly part of another series as well, and Greed is related to another series as well, but Pride has it's own series for itself, and most of the other songs/events take place within Lucifienia, which is the country for Pride.So I just think that Mothy won't expand anymore on this sin or this particular part of the story with any upcoming songs in the future.
 * And if you think about it, Rilliane also commited the other sins as well: Gluttony (the reason Leonhart was killed was because he stole food from the castle storage), Envy (she got jealous over Michaela and Kyle's relationship), Wrath (launching an attack to Elphegort), Sloth (she made Allen do everything for her), Greed (She imposed heavy taxes on the people), and Lust (Not sure about this one...didn't she delight herself in banquets and parties in the novel? Note that Lust doesn't necessarily mean sexual pleasure, it can also mean pleasure in general). This fits with how Pride is considered the deadliest sin, since it also leads to other sins.

Gallerian's Utopia

 * Okay this is just a long shot and anyone can put their own opinion. So we all know that in the end of Greed's PV, Gallerian says that Hell will turn into his and his daughter's utopia. So I got thinking how that would happen and at first I got nothing. Then I heard the new song master of the court (successor of the court) and I think I heard Miku say "chichi"(although I maybe wrong) which translates to "father" and also I think she said "negai no mon" which I think is "Hellish yard". So I got an idea. What if Kaito became the new master of the hellish yard? ( it's a long shot I know -_-"). But it does support that if he was the master then naturally the hellish yard will be his utopia.
 * It's "meikai no mon" which is in the song Judgement of Corruption, and translates to "Gateway to the underworld." On the other hand, "negai" means "wish."

Rilliane's Life after the Events of Regret Message

 * Remember the "Daughter of Evil"? I wonder what happened to Rilliane after she threw the bottle in the ocean. In some PVs, she drowned herself ,or just grew old and died. And what happened to the rest of the characters in the series, such as Kyle Marlon, Jermielle and the extras. You be the judge.
 * Daughter of White tells us clearly that she repented and became a nun together with Clarice.
 * It's possible that Rillianne died early, or committed suicide because of her guilty over Allen's death ( I think that this second theory is more likely). "Heartbeat Clocktower" comments about a "girl that has the pretentious leading part". The song talks too that she's "indulging on selfishness like always", and that she's sad about the lost of her "other half". Well, this girl it's obviously Rillianne, so, she might be on the Forest's Theather (just like Conchita), which could mean that she died.