Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-67.86.197.138-20150602020812/@comment-53539-20150603141525

I can't find my pop corn. I kinda knew he'd be back, I was just hoping we wouldn't know its him so we could play the naive card.

Someone else said it right, we can't cover him on the wikia, going straight or whatever. Its not about principle or anything like that. It's disrespectful to those who were hurt and they may choose to express or look down upon us for featuring him.

Plus its a simple case of "can we trust him again?". He lied about so much, you cannot tell if any vocaloid he will be using is indeed legit, and his behaviour is appalling for a producer. I recently complained about Zephyr-P, but this isn't the same kind of misbehaving. We've got a known XSY-mod publisher, pocaloid, liar and possibly conman (no proof money was for charity at all) who create a lot of drama for the sake of being some big "I am"... The problems was, he knew exactly what he was doing was wrong but just didn't stop until he fell. He was never rude or anything like that... But if this went to a wikia-editor vote, my vote would always be against him.

I'm not saying he can't redeem himself, because a few producers have done so. I'm saying that our hands are tied on the matter.

Also I have to say it.... I honestly don't know what being on our pages makes a producer a big deal anyway? Plenty of producers got popular without us and we're not a ad space for someone. Its forever baffling why a few see it as a big issue. If their not featured their no better off then if they are. We're not a police force either nor are we promoted the "inner circle" producers or whatever secret society pun you want to come up with there. :-/

After all the stuff with Stella and given rep... I'm not likely to support him myself. Bare in mind as well with the idea of redemption, he has been in the position several times over the course of the few years he was around. Stella was just the big drama. You have to ask yourself when thinking about this, "how many second chances does a person deserve?". He has had 3 I've known of at least.

Speaking as a 31 year old with a lifetime of experience....Look guys... when you have someone you can't trust because their a thief, liar, etc, they don't always get better over night. There are lots and lots of people who never change and are always in and out of jail for stealing this or scandalizing that. As people get older their conscious disappears and they are ore likely to behave a certain way. I'm not saying this time will be the last, but I will say don't jump in the deep end before you can swim. Often people continue until, like the stella incident, they go too far.