Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-26400511-20161126080843/@comment-53539-20180124104821

I would tell you off for reviving an old topic... Never added my two cents.

Me? I have no idea why I'm in the fandom, this is different to how I entered the fandom, but my continuation? I've been humiliated, attacked, insulted, etc, all while being in this fandom. The other fandoms I was in where people were not nice at all, I left... Arlong Park forums... dragon cave... Mortal Kombat...

I think of them the MK one was the saddest, as I left because a New York guy hated on my for being British and nobody stepped in and told him off. In the end I got tired of proving his out dated views, tired of "Mileena's got worst teeth then the British!" comments and just got fed up with nobody doin their job as admin. ¬_¬

Arlong Park... IT was just one guy having constant digs at One Piece wikia editors... Eventually you leave because "why hang out with a forums of jerk worshippers when you can hang out with the fun kids?". ^_^

Dragon Cave... Left after the artist behind the Frilled Dragons abused her position with the fans and basically threw her toys out of the pram. As I was calling myself a artist on Deviant Art at the time, I found it unprofessional and if I had been the guy in charge, I'd have kicked her out of further work. She often tried to force TJ09 to abide by her demands, by re-inventing her work post release. I believe TJ09 stepped in on either her or another artist at one point because they tried to force "Drakes" to be known as "Draks" and he said basically that if you planned it to be one thing you can re-make it post release.

In the Vocaloid fandom... Half the problem is just people make presumptions on things when they don't fully know the story. I'll give the most recent example, wherein on VO forums I got attacked for pretending to know anything about EVEC. Eventually I did let slip I used the trial, but only after BenHO mentioned it. Plus, a lot of the EVEC issues were being ignored and I was the only one pointing out how messy it was, so I got accused of putting out opinions as facts, when it was opinions based on facts. Those there weren't, were my guesses, and I'd have thought someone would have the brains to figure this out.

Also... When I got asked to bring proof, I said the provider's raction can be found at least on the wikia... On her product page. But since about 2012... I don't jump over hurdles to provide evidence that can be found without my head. Long Story short, in 2012, can't remember why I did it, I took the stance that I'm not a monkey, I don't jump through hoops to please others and if they can't be bothered to look it up... I'm not going to do the work for them. ITs one thing to do research and uncover stuff which I put on the wikia, but another to have to feed the same information to others every time I need to prove a point. I never did it in the One Piece fandom and Vocaloid was the only time I've had to deal with it. In other fandoms, all I did was have to say "read chapter 1" and they found it on their own. I suppose you could say its unfair, but it gets really old really fast. Why have a wikia, where information like that is collected to be found, when all you do is just have to re-post it elsewhere? =_=

So you'd think, that I'd have left. I almost did when things got on top of me in 2011... I stuck around because I felt I still had more things to do and for 1 year Vocaloid wiki editing had become a routine. Since then, I guess I've had some experiences worth the stay, despite the agro from other fans who can't understand I'm not a "know it all" I just have my head buried in a wikia everyday (even when I'm not editing) and reading stuff... For every bad experience you can have, you find yourself seeing through some good ones. I've never had such a see-saw balance like this in any other fandom. Normally its almost all good or bad.