Talk:Kagamine Rin/Len/@comment-2020924-20150815031946/@comment-92.0.136.234-20150815142925

His voice provider is female... There is only so much you can push Len as "male" in that direction.

ITs the same problem we have with approach Nekomura Iroha wherein the vocaloid is one gender and the voice is really another. You generlly have this same issue with that gender grey area of voices, Flower being another example of this. There are factors in the voice you can't 100% get rid of (since going back to the voicebox being larger in males presenting some femle tones and all...), but generally that grey area is not enough in either direction to really "this sounds like a true female/male".

Either way, I usually point to Big Al if someone calls Len "manly", because Big Al is the most manly vocaloid we have and ask them to compare. Len is still a teenager who should be just going through pubetary, so he can't yet be all that masculine yet, at that age most of his muscles are still developing for starters. Either way... Al and Len are pretty fr apart in terms of manliness. >_<

Ignoring the bias sector of the fandom who are Len nuts, the majorityu of Kagamine dislikers usually say Len is their least favourite.