Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-49.146.36.28-20180329054410/@comment-53539-20180528004927

Anime and Manga Supreme wrote: I just have a question. Are the official website Vocaloid.com and VOCALOID Otaku the same? Because Vocaloid.com is working;not offline or invaded by stupid spam yucky stuff. So if you need information,use the official website (Just remember to translate it)Official website

But if that doesn't work out,oh well....m Surely you can work out this without writing that post... ITs kinda obvious their not the same thing. Even if you don't know VO was a forum... You could also read the rest of the comments and all and get a jest.

VO forums, Vocaloid Otaku forums, was one of the most popular forums for overseas fans. IT started out as one of about two major forums, the other being Vocaloidism. Vocaloidism kinda is dead also. Vocaloidism was a particular paradise for bias opinions and was an elitist paradise in addition as well. VO forums started out like this, but as time went by more and more newbies came along and this was beginning to strain.

They used to openingly attack this wiki and call it either garbage or poison... In reality, they often didn't like we were debunking a lot of their crap they made up, proving their bias nonsense and they were often the more poisonous forum... I'll remind everyone the reason I even touch both this wiki and wikipiedia Vocaloid pages to get things rolling was that for 2 whole months I asked the forumers to change the state of these pages for the benefit of their fandom. 2 months later I did it myself. The VO forum was full of people at the time who wanted to be the alpha nerds and sit there on their thrones it seems mocking the "stupid fans" who didn't know what Vocaloid was and not change the status quo because for a good many of them, it suited them. When you have no counter source to your claims, your word can be taken as gospel.

If you want to know the soul source of most V2 myths that still survive to this day, look no further then these two forums. Voca even 2 months before the end was claiming LUMi was basically as good as any English vocaloid and Maika had godly skills for languages, among a few other things. The response when I call Voca out on it was to close the thread. Maybe to avoid a fight, but still, it was a reaction when you called out someone on the old V2 myths anyway to dismiss your notes that they are myths.

Generally you can deal with the casual fan on youtube because their pretty clueless and that's fine, but I have claimed for years since I joined the One Piece fandom that veteran fans are by far the worst misinformation sources when they want to be. A lot of the mistake spoken and taken by gospel in OP was likewise from mouths of people who should know their stuff.