User talk:NebulousViper


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Deletions of reprints and the "case Tmbox"
Hello :)

I have two questions, the first one about the reprints and the second one for Tmbox.

The first point:

I know that for the new pages reprints are to be removed / not to be added (thanks to the discussion). However, there are still lots of pages with reprints links. For the moment, I went through the pages of "Hall of Fame" then "Hall of Legends", checked if the current reprints were still existing, and if they were dead, I simply removed them. I did the same for 2 reprints that gave illegal links -> removed.

Now the thing is.1) Shall I also remove all the reprints, even if they still exist, for all pages (if this is the case I'll first start with the songbox itself)? 2) Is this also the case for "authorized reprints" when this is explicitly indicated (or should we leave these)?

The second point:

I still see there are Tmbox links on the Wiki. To tell you the story, Tmbox didn't allow anymore uploads since June 6th 2017 (no more interface to upload), then the website went down on August 2017, that was way earlier than the closure date they wanted to announce (first it was April 1st 2018 then December 31st 2017).

Result: all Tmbox links are dead and the website is unresponsive.

Tmbox actually invited all the users to use Soundcloud or MQube instead. (MQube is quite the exact equivalent of Tmbox now since May 2017, few after Tmbox announced the closure)

The question is: what should we do for Tmbox? And is it possible to add MQube as "replacement website" on the platforms links? (I don't know if you see what I mean, but it would be the template for song box, and anywhere Tmbox was being listed)

My discussion page is open if you want, have a good afternoon :)

Tokina8937 21:41, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

[July 5th, 2018 - answer]

Hello,

I updated my task list and left a message on Bunai's discussion page for Tmbox.

Thanks! :)

Tokina8937 09:15, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

Images Vandalism
Hello. I would like to report User:DonutswithJellyFilling!? for 3 vandalisms on articles' images.

It seems like they are also making vandalism edits on other wikis too. Based on their edits on Pop'n Music wiki, I strongly believe they are the same person who vandalised the KAITO article (the 'Mimi and Nyami' one), check the history edits.

Lynnellet (talk) 13:43, July 9, 2018 (UTC) Lynnellet

Careful Lynnellet, your link does not work because of the question mark ^^"

More seriously.

Just to add some other details, the page of the image modifications for this user is this one. They imported new versions of or pictures that had nothing to do with VOCALOID or incorrect/bad quality pics. I was wondering if there would be the need to set the KAITO page under autoconfirmed editions/page renames because of that, but... Seems it would be no use against this user.

And I also saw what Lynnellet was talking about for the other Wikis... Some admins already threatened them to ban them, but it hasn't been done yet (or at least I don't see the tag "Blocked" on the user profile.) Would it possible to ban the concerned user? Thanks :) Tokina8937 14:23, July 9, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for the heads up. Sorry for the late response. I was asleep.


 * DonutswithJellyFilling! is now banned. Their behavior is unacceptable and honestly, if users are causing issues at other wikis, that already raises a red flag. Thanks again.


 * NebulousViper Talk Page  16:37, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Reprints
Why are youtube links not allowed in the wiki anymore?! They're a faster way to see the videos and songs!

Amandamay3711 (talk) 02:42, July 10, 2018 (UTC)Medea Agapishvili

Pixiv links fix needed - Moke and Qingxian
Hello (and sorry for disturbing again),

There is just a little issue with the Pixiv links for Qingxian and Moke. They are displayed in a quite anarchic way on the page itself, not in the "link" part, but in the title part. Which makes the current displayed links broken (brings back to the popular tags page).

The real links are this one for Moke and this one for Qingxian.

When I wanted to edit the table, first time I saw it in the editor, the display was weird and messy. I decided to see the source but there was nothing, then I came back to visual mode and the line just disappeared. I went out from the editor without saving. I'm a bit afraid to break the table... :/

Do you know if this would be possible to fix it and if it's possible, to know how to not be lost in this mess (I know the formatting is correct on Xin Hua's page for example, hope it helps)?

Thanks :)

Tokina8937 11:33, July 11, 2018 (UTC)

[July 17th, 2018 - answer]

Hello,

No worries for the late answer, that's true that with the V5 generation it's a bit the mess. ^^"

More seriously, I left a message on Bunai's discussion page. I also did a "repair try" in my sandbox, but it's a failure, the link just doesn't display. Or their template is not the same or this is due to the URL. And if this is the URL, I'm pretty sure this is due to the question marks, since they were problematic for tvPot links (the formatting with the "l" template).

Thanks anyways :)

Tokina8937 20:29, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Trivia
Is there a reason why you reverted my trivia edits when I mentioned sources and true information (that multiple derivative works feature various interpretations, including official games)? I even mentioned an official model. I don't see why those things can't be mentioned. Kageprofan24100 (talk) 22:57, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Jaho p
hi man..a vocalo p called jaho p release a new song today and i want to publish the song is a new part of his wikia page...can u help please?

thanks but i want to add a new part in his songs/featured works and then i add the lyrics/lyrics page (but i don't know how to do!You add and then i do everything(i add text and other things).

sorry i forgot to mentinon that that's the song and the name is Afraid of daylight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB2DLGYhVGY

thanks man!I know that u added his new song but i noticed to u removed his other work called my farewell..it took me a lot to write the meaning for that song...i even contacted jao p because i wanted to know the meaning D;

Ban evading? - Jovianawilson300
Hello Viper,

Jovianawilson300 is doing exactly the same thing as Amandamay was doing: using dead pages, renaming them and creating outdated pages using VLW formatting.

I think this is a possible ban evasion. Is it possible to block them? I'll try to repair the thing myself, I still have some time in front of me.

Thanks!

Tokina8937 19:45, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Again ban evading? (Googoo800) + removal of pictures
Hello again Viper,

(This thing is maybe becoming ridiculous...)

Possibly another ban evading from the same person (if it's the case, hence the "why I edited a section instead of creating a new one" ^^"), the contributions can be seen here. For the pictures that have indeed nothing to do with Vocaloid in the images uploads (they are marked with the "Candidate for deletion" template if ever this can help), is it possible to remove them please? :D

Not all of the modifications are bad though. But if you want more info, go and see the discussion page of this user, Lynnellet left a message in here. (Note: apparently a problem of "taking the name of someone else" as well, but on my side I have no clues at all...)

Even if you told me you were not used with the ban evading cases, I think the last time happened quite well... After, the problem is this user doesn't care about anything sadly :( Worse, we have an user who creates multiple accounts, and has different behaviors on them. Including bad ones.

After, for this case... Even if Lynnellet says their edits mirror the ones of Amandamay and Jovianawilson, they are not totally 100% the same when I looked at it. Especially no "creating an outdated page with VLW templates".

Do you think something about it?

Thanks :)

Tokina8937 17:31, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

Infinite ban evading
Hello Viper, (and sorry for the title which maybe doesn't seem very serious but I'm really laughing at the situation)

I thought she'd learn the lesson, but not really apparently (ref to page "Mandragora" created from Planty-P) but is it possible to ban Willelizabeth6574 please (indef. ban maybe, anyways with all the accounts she creates...)?

Also the VSTF reports don't work for this user, they didn't want to deal with the situation. Apparently Bunai also made a report and nothing happened. (However it worked for the other vandal)

Thanks and sorry again, but this is ridiculous at this point -_-

Tokina8937 21:10, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

OK you went too fast for me, but thanks ^^

Tokina8937 21:13, July 31, 2018 (UTC)


 * Really wish there was some other solution to this because this is a big waste of time for everyone and a general annoyance.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  21:28, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Protecting a bit more the page of KAITO?
Hello Viper,

The other user (ref to the story of "images vandalism") made a strike again, but if Wikia can forbid this user from creating new accounts (especially if they ban by mail, and still...), do you think it could slow down the things to set the page of KAITO under edit autoconfirmed and move autoconfirmed?

I'll also have to think to remove the reprints from the character's pages anyways, but since this is on a template rather than the page itself, I don't think there will be any problem.

The address of the ban evading user is 2001:8003:A885:4B00:ECBD:FC6C:8EB6:E426 and the contribution list

Sorry again for the lots of messages and thanks :s (And if you want to thank someone, thank Lynnellet, she is the one who saw that first)

Tokina8937 14:51, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

Status as of August 11th
I think if this is going on like this we should extend the protection... I know Bunai maybe told about making the whole wiki for auto-confirmed, because here this is becoming problematic.

Possible to extend the protections please? :( Thanks

And if ever this vandal creates an account for their stupid disruptions again, I'll report them again to VSTF, there's no problem.

Sorry again for disturbing :(

Tokina8937 06:37, August 11, 2018 (UTC)

Prevention ban? Cidrblocks?
Hello Viper,

I made a VSTF report for the third account of this vandal but I feel like she (because yes, apparently our little annoying troll seems to be a girl) may go this night to Vocaloid Wiki before VSTF does anything (they usually treat the things near 11 AM (local time)) to do some harm so I rather warning you... Maybe you can go faster than them for protecting the Wiki. She created a new account (BellsRingAtSchool). You can search the whole "User:BellsRingAtSchool" on Google to see on which Wikis she went (and I listed 3 other of them in the VSTF report, also, you can go to OhedoJuliaNight's userpage and go to the Wikis listed below her profile and search for her username via URL), and to see what damage has already been done. And yup, I can confirm this is still a ban evading.

I'm also thinking if the V4X bundle art of Miku should also be protected (at a sysop level maybe since the pic is definitive)... Maybe it's not a durable solution but if this is something that can slow her down... :/

Also I'm keeping an eye on the IPs she uses, these are mainly mac adresses beginning with "2001:8003:A885:4B00". I saw that Damesuke has found a way to do a global IP block for another user, do you think it is possible to ban a whole group of adresses with just these 4 first parts (the "cidrblocks")? Other possible cidrblock but more minor than the mac adress one: "155.205.200.X" (the X standing for any number). If ever I see another possible cidrblock, I'll tell you. But these are the 2 biggest ones.

If ever she wants attention from other people, she will have to try a little harder than that... :)

Tokina8937 20:46, August 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * It is easy to spot her as well as she makes the same edits each time. Aside from the one comment she left that stayed on the wiki for 9 hours, most are undone within minutes. Makes her editing to vandalise pointless. I believe, however Toki the admins are on this case as well. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 21:29, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Angel: No worries it's just as an info point. :) Also let's admit the first part (the preventive ban) becomes obsolete (main reason: already treated by VSTF). The cidrblock thing would maybe help in the long-term. Its goal is mainly to avoid setting bans to many many IPs on a long-term period. Useful against the boring vandals and trolls. :)

The thing is that an IP is chosen a bit "randomly" (what I mean here is that in most of cases it's not the user who decides). There are 2 exceptions (or maybe just one, don't remember...) to these IP patterns. If a cidrblock is done, the troll won't be able to do anything on the Wiki if, on a specific day, their IP matches one in the cidrblock. I saw it, Angel, she won't stop, at least for now. The thing is to really discourage her. Let's ask ourselves the question: "Does that leaving her editing will discourage her?" (it's a real question, if any of you two have an answer to this, go ahead). Because when people revert her edits, she often tends to revert herself just to set the other users on their nerves. Maybe on this Wiki this is less visible, but on other ones... :/ (After, yeah, the admins on some other Wikis just acted... Less "impartially" than both of you. At a point it became ridiculous. So of course it amused her.)

And for the days where the IP doesn't match? We'll revert as usual. :) And if ever we see a pattern in the IP adresses (not the edits), create a new cidrblock pattern. :D

But really when I saw the different adresses, there are... Like 95% chances we fall onto the first case?

After, I never did a ban myself on a Wikia so I don't know how to make a cidrblock active myself. But if I understand the blocklist and how it is displayed, apparently replacing the variable parts (the blocks changing each time) by "0", it works...?

I'd really like to ask for a such "group block" on VSTF but I don't think this is possible... :/ Hence the time I told Viper the "if ever I catch one of their other accounts to make disruptions I make a VSTF report" thingie. If there is a thing for which we can be sure 100% it's that the concerned third account will be banned if they indeed see there was a problem.

I just tell what I'll do: I continue to keep an eye on it. On this Wiki and elsewhere. If I see an account from the troll doing damage a bit everywhere, it's the report. I won't ask myself more questions. And I won't talk to her since this is useless (ref to what you said on Lynn's page Angel, you're right, this is just an attention-seeker with boring ways). Not sure if I'll continue reporting the new usernames to this discussion. Doing it on VSTF will be more efficient for all Wikis, seeing the extend of the damage. :) Knowing that sadly, I won't be able to report IPs due to their non-permanent way of working (hence the cidrblock proposal). I'll try to be as efficient as possible. Is that OK for you two? :D

Tokina8937 22:08, August 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'd probably ask Damesuke for cidrblocks. I don't know how to do them lol.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  23:55, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Ah I actually had the doubt if you knew how to do or not... :( No problem then Viper.

I saw how was going the situation now and I have the doubt on she is going here soon or if she totally gave up (proofs aren't on this Wiki and since I don't know how to distinguish troll from direct sayings when she says "I quit"...). I'll wait until she comes back here and if she does, no worries, Damesuke will have a little message for the cidrblock. (The VSTF report failed btw, I think I need more proofs) Seeing the protections I think we may be good until at least... Saturday? :)

Tokina8937 07:55, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

OK if an admin sees this, protect my userpage and my discussion page under edit and move autoconfirmed in a permanent way. Thanks.

Tokina8937 08:28, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

Status as of August 25th
I knew it since two days ago and I should have said it when I saw it to do a preventive ban, idiot of me... At this time I didn't have enough proof for the "she was attacking several Wikis". :( That would have made her another unusable account in her list. (Yes I looked in the blocklists of the other Wikis she is vandalizing, that helps to find her)

When I said to Angel "maybe a list of things to protect" in the other discussion, I was maybe thinking about mainly the renders of the characters from Crypton (a good part is already protected as for now) and their boxarts. Plus their pages. Plus possibly our user pages (changing the protecting depending of the user, example, set a sysop protection for the userpage of an admin). That's what I was thinking of to slow her down as much as possible.

It's just not possible... -_- And no worries, if you do the protections, don't wake yourself up at impossible hours just for that. I haven't seen another possible active account for now. So we may be quiet for a bit. (Really sorry for the other time anyways, I haven't seen the account of few days ago)

Oh and for the CIDR blocks thing... So Damesuke applied it (thanks to him btw :) ) and O Herman said they possibly understood it and that they could help. I also found things on my side, especially a tab for IPv4 adresses and a "code" part for IPv6 ones. These helped me to understand what Damesuke had done. Hope it also helps you to understand how it works. :D And for entering them in the Block page, it's just the ensemble of the CIDR we build thanks to what we want (ref to the links given above).

I really hope this troll will give up soon because this is really, really boring... :( But at least now she has to use an account to be spotted, which already is slowing her down.

Sorry again :(

Tokina8937 08:15, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

October 07th
Heya, I want to request deletion on two files:
 * File:猫叉Master feat.ミミニャミ HD 「TWINKLING」
 * File:Lapistorianyami.png

Several vandalism are from these two accounts: User:Hee hee heeeee! and User:Mcdonaldsyummy. This person seems to commit vandalism/sockpuppet on Wikipedia too.

We might as well make a CheckUser request to further the protection. Lynnellet (talk) 09:51, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Lynn: Your second user link is wrong, you set an "User:" too much. :P Otherwise, was also thinking about it and also came to the conclusion for the CheckUser, but a CIDR block would be needed and sadly Viper doesn't know how to do it (else Viper, if you think you learnt how these blocks work, don't hesitate to tell). I know Damesuke or Herman do know though. Maybe Meerkat, not sure? (But is she awake... I know this is not the case for Viper when I'm writing this right now, it's 6 AM for him)

Also think to protect all the pages that could possibly be hurt in the process. (Or Viper or any admin, I saw Meerkat protected her user page in precaution yesterday)

A sure thing: VSTF doesn't want to take care of the case, they consider it as a local issue.

Tokina8937 10:28, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * I think we should add this account User:ME WANT MACCA'S to the roster as well.
 * --Ai {talk}


 * Ah, I can swear it was normal the first time I checked my message though... Seems like I messed it up again XD


 * That user would vandalize any user's page who reverted their edits. I got one around 5 mins ago (thanks KockaAdmiralac :D), Zach and several users have got this before.


 * I honestly feel bad for the Pop n' Music Wiki (and the game itself) too. That user is either too addicted to the game, or just tryna demoting it through vandalism like this. Not to the several users who got banned unreasonably due to the blocks...
 * Lynnellet (talk) 10:50, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * That seems a bit weird because i have undone some of their edits and added the delete template to some of their pages but got no vandalism on my user page (i spoke too fast now didn't i, lol).
 * Oh, and User:Hellomcdonalds seems to be another account they use... I seriously do not know how they can make so many accounts.
 * --Ai {talk}

Inactivity
I am offically inactive.

-UberMillennium RailgnPro


 * Understood. Thank you for your time here.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  19:54, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Newbie and rules?
Sorry for late reply and I can't use my phone right now. Thanks for telling me about a reminder since I am a newbie here. I have been in Fandom Wiki about a year so I still don't know the rules either--- at least I learned from a mistake. I am having a hard time using mobile device (my side screen of my phone is too hard to press). I will use PC for a while.

Rinka-0703 3:45, August 03, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Chinese Pages
After learning what you did to 暖色音调 (Nuǎnsè Yīndiào), this is what I did. I hope it helps you. Thank you for teaching me. Revision

- Zach Mando Games (talk) 00:55, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Hopefully I did this right. - Zach Mando Games (talk) 06:55, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday!
Happy birthday Nebulous! I hope you have a great time! *Bakes a cake*

P.S.: I'm inactive, though I will come back for some time. Need me? Message me and I will reply.

P.S.S: Check out translations I made @ Vocaloid Lyric Wikia. Like this: [//vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E6%88%91%E8%A6%81%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0_(W%C7%92_Y%C4%81o_M%C7%8Ei_M%C7%8Ei_M%C7%8Ei) https://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/%E6%88%91%E8%A6%81%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0_(W%C7%92_Y%C4%81o_M%C7%8Ei_M%C7%8Ei_M%C7%8Ei)]

VocaloidDefence 17:50, August 7, 2018 (UTC) aka UberMillennium RailgunPro

Oh yeah right today's the day! Happy birthday Viper :D

Tokina8937 18:55, August 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you both!


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  20:56, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Question
Speaking of things and how badly I communicate (from Piko's comments), so we actually have emoticons on the wiki, I've seen users use them at this point a couple of times? I honestly don't have any come back from the times I don't communicate well, just looking for a way to make it easier... Especially to a lot of the recent storm of newbies who kinda don't know me well or how badly I communicate anyway... :-? One-Winged Hawk (talk) 22:38, August 12, 2018 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I don't know how people use the emoticons they do lol. Personally, I just usually use the typical ":)" ":o" ":P" ";)" ":U" ";_;" "TTwTT" and what not. Probably googling it might help?


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  22:53, August 12, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll read about it later, if I find anything I'll let you know too. For now I'm kinda sleepy (had a bad night). O.O


 * I use a mixture of "O.O" and ":-O" style myself. Though some... Like ":-/" can be read more then one way. This was "frown" or "I don't know" at times, this is "^_-" a "wink" or "suuuuuure" depending... And so fourth. And some get used incorrectly and others change their meaning... This happened to "^_-", but "^_~" to me is "wink". It can get confusing quite so. @_@ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 09:54, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

Why the exact view counts updates exactly?
Hello Viper,

It's just to get a little clarification...

Currently we're discussing with Zach "why are we using exact view counts instead of rounded ones" and now that sets me a bit the doubt of why we are doing it.

I asked him if it was possible when he updates view counts to set the exact ones. After, yes, I may have done it in a bit clumsy way in the sense where we could think I scolded him (which was not really the case, and if I made it understand like this I'm horribly sorry (sociability has never been my thing to be honest)).

If he could have an answer it would be great. :) And sorry for the behavior with him. I just... Messed up, I admit it. >< For the moment I didn't answer him back on the discussion page, don't want to set more venom in the situation.

So for the moment he created a discussion topic to know what people are thinking of it. The thing is that actually if I'm using exact view counts it's because I learnt it from other people. And at this point, well, I can't really get a good opinion without having a bias because I'm following what others do.

Thanks and sorry again for the trouble

PS: If ever you want to know what kind of sociability mistakes I can make, my discussion page is open.

Tokina8937 08:23, August 13, 2018 (UTC)


 * Give me a few moments to respond to your talk page. It's a bit long


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  13:40, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

OK thanks for the infos. However he altered the section before you went to it and just removed discussions from his page (including the part where I went a bit less nice than usual), not sure this is authorized... :(

If you want to see why I was sorry for my behavior, you can check the history of his discussion page before he decided to reply today.

Tokina8937 16:50, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

BTw
Our friend has moved from Kaito's page to the comments, letting you know to delete and ban and all. You seemed to have missed it. The link is spam.

This is all pathetic. And sad. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 18:37, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Done and done. - Meerkat (talk) 19:42, August 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Meerkat butting in…


 * Thanks Meerkat, I was trying to guess who was on and hoped Viper was still, he was the last one I last on-line with the power on the recent changes page. This is sometimes a guessing game. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 23:20, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Nav bar for VB
Hey Neb, Just curious, how do you add the little nav bar at the top of the VOCALOID pages for VBs and then the character? Tryin to help out with the currently tragic as heck SynthV wikia and I can't for the life of me figure out how yall get the *Vocaloid Name* *VOCALOIDblank* thing at the top of the characters page. If you could let me know how the heck I can do that, that'd be great! Thanks!! VOCALOFAN (talk) 10:46, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

At the top of the codes, there's this line here:
 * Sorry to butt in, but I believe I can answer your question. This is from using Template:Infobox Vocaloid.


 * As you can see on the above line, there are uses of 2 templates: Template:Navbar Voicebanks and Template:color.
 * Template:Nav Voicebanks serves the purpose of creating the Nav bar for the pages. Yet, hasn't there been the #if part up there, the nav bar wouldn't appear in the page.
 * Template:Color, like its own name has spoken, serves the purpose of coloring. Just that.
 * It must have something to do with those MediaWiki pages too. Can't just expect to copy stuff and make it happen immediately.
 * I don't know much about coding, just barely understand its mechanic, so this is the best answer I can give you.
 * Lynnellet (talk) 11:38, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

About the Image uploaded to my profile
Hello!

I'm sorry I caused trouble by uploading that unrelated image, didn't mean to give you more work. I should have known and now I'll try to be more careful! I again must apologize heavily, I'm sorry.

Thank you for your hard work

Cfl565656 (talk) 04:09, August 20, 2018 (UTC)cfl565656

You got this?
[//vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/VOCALOID?redirect=no https://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/VOCALOID?redirect=no]

I see you banning the one who did that, I presume you're tackling the page rename too?

It might need protecting.One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:49, August 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, didn't know you was online when I began the process. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:51, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

[//vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/VOCALOID#comm-211014 https://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/VOCALOID#comm-211014]

This comment too? One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:52, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

I think we need to do a list of things to protect Angel... Reverted the 2 vandalized pictures to their normal status. And thanks Viper for the ban.

Tokina8937 08:55, August 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * it's 5 am. Im supposed to be sleeping. Editing on mobile is hard. Plz dont mind the typos. Im too lazy to correct my phone... orz


 * this is really annoying... im sorry for all the trouble.


 * NebulousViper Talk Page  09:02, August 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * *sigh*, this is what happens when little kids think that wikis are just fun places to vandalize ;;


 * --akumi (need something~?)

Succeeding versions format
This has been bugging me for a while. If a song has a rearranged version/succeeding version, how should the format be? Should it be styled in Tabbers, or included in the "Succeeding Versions" heading?

For example:
 * Tabbers: Asu no Yozora Shoukaihan, COSMONAUTS
 * Succeeding Versions heading: Cantarella, Zantou Hanabi, Lience

Thanks in advance! :D

Lynnellet (talk) 04:44, August 26, 2018 (UTC)


 * Normally I do them in headers. I only use tabbers if the succeeding version is especially more prominent than the original version (see D!sappear, Ripple, 韶音赋 (Sháo Yīn Fù), 前尘如梦 (Qiánchén Rú Mèng)). This is only my personal preference though.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  22:39, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Rose from ashes.
So, I'm back now. It's a pity though, Kuroi left this Wikia for couple months. Sad ;(...

Let's judt hope I will stay after inactive for about 4-5 months.

P.S.: Reply to this message via my message wall.

VocaloidDefence 17:00, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry,I didn't now these were Unofficial i promise i will stop it.

WIP
So you want ALL articles to show WIP before the other templates?

- Zach Mando Games (talk) 04:05, August 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes? Because those are indications that there is a need for help in completing the page. Those should come before all else.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  04:53, August 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * On another note, I don't see why you keep going around and changing the backgrounds for some of the articles I've uploaded. There was nothing wrong with them to begin with. It's actually very irritating to me that you're doing that.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  05:00, August 28, 2018 (UTC)

I know its a few days late, but the WIP template as long as I've been a wiki editor... Basically since 2002 when I first joined Wikipedia... IT always goes first because its the most immediate thing that need to be said about the page. Its then followed by templates that suggest other things. IT should be the first thing a reader reads on a page. Wikipedia, however, has for a long time had a variety of wip templates, but its been around for some time and does have several million pages so its understandable. But still, templates are always ordered in the order of most importance, always been the case. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 20:04, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

For the bans + validity of songs issue
Hello Viper,

I feel a bit bad for Amandamay personnally, I told her that what the ban evading was a bad solution... Now she just has one left. I let you judge. I tried to give her some sup advice for how repair some mistakes, but I think I forgot some points. Like the titles of the derivatives.

She says she actually understood some things, after I think there are inattention faults (the dead link thing and some reprints) and the source problem caused by Visual Editor. Now she just has to assimilate, for good.

Also, other ban to do for the other vandal, just in prevention. If it can avoid you waking up at impossible hours because last time I felt very bad about it... :/ (Yes the link is red it's normal, but if you see the contributions on other Wikis you'll better understand)

(I hesitate to make a list for the ban requests of this user... Really, it's ridiculous and annoying)

Other question: I made the reprints removal treatment for Clara, Merli and Maika's pages this morning (original songs and cover songs list). I came to a problem where the validity of some songs is being questioned (on Clara's page if it can help). In this case, should they be exempted from the rule "do not erase from the original songs list" or same applies to them as well, no matter the validity status? For the moment I used a comment (or visible or invisible, it depended of how I made the treatment). And I saw the pages of some of such songs had dead links in derivatives... That I can't remove because locked. No problem if you don't know the answer, else I'll just leave these as they are. At least there will be a warning in the worst of cases. '-'

Again I'm not hurrying you to do these things. :s

Sorry again ><

Tokina8937 17:54, August 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * I told her to next time practice creating articles in her sandbox. I don't if it will help.

- Zach Mando Games (talk) 18:00, August 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * @Tokina - She's not supposed to have multiple accounts. If she wants back, she has to use one account only, preferably her first one. However, I probably wouldn't be the best judge. She lingers around Japanese pages, which isn't something I can read and therefore, cannot monitor her edits. Damesukekun would probably make a better judgement than I. I'm sorry.


 * As for the songs you're asking about, I wouldn't know that much about that. Ask Bunai?


 * I'm sorry I sound so useless in this message lol.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  01:12, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

Since your the last one on-line
[//vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Mimi_is_the_girly_girl,_Nyami_is_the_tomboy https://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Mimi_is_the_girly_girl,_Nyami_is_the_tomboy].

The idiot is back, you know the drill.

This is kinda sad and boring. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:43, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

Meerkat is cleaning up everything, no worries Viper. :) (Btw Meerkat if you see this, thank you)

Even requested a CIDR block to Herman. Also, might be better if none of us showed any boredom emotion to her, because it seems to make her happier. Currently studying how she exactly behaves depending of the situation.

And if VSTF doesn't want to ban her accounts, I'll find another way...

Tokina8937 10:09, September 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. Sorry, I was not awake. Tbh you're better off asking Damesukekun during those hours as he's one of the admins who should be awake at the time. He's like, 13 hours ahead of me.


 * NebulousViper Talk Page  13:09, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

Really sorry to bother you with this but i think we need a bit help
Zach and I had a small argument but, as of right now, he's ignoring me and just does his thing without really resolving the issue. To save some times explaining everything is pretty much here ofr you to catch up. Could you please help us resolve this since Zach preety much just ignored me?

You can see this as well

EDIT: The issue was resolved another admin came in. I apologised for dragging you into this and but if you do have anything to say to me since i was a bit rude please do.

-Ai

Re: 100x100 images
Got it. I'm planning to update the Songs featuring pages in the future, so might as well do a quality check up on the icons too.

For Amy's icon, I will upload a 100x100 sized icon to replace it. I've got the file here now.

Lynnellet (talk) 03:00, September 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * Awesome, thank you!


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  03:04, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Banks distributed by CFM
About one or two weeks ago, mahalisyarifuddin found out some piece of info that CFM is selling banks from other companies. He had already added the info to the Crypton Future Media, Inc., but not the voicebanks own pages yet.

The links he provided me:
 * https://sonicwire.com/product/vi (Switch to Japanese language to see the updated page. The banks are labeled as 'new')
 * https://blog.sonicwire.com/2018/08/ahs-vocaloid.html
 * https://blog.sonicwire.com/2018/08/vocaloid-internet.html
 * https://blog.sonicwire.com/2018/08/1st-place.html
 * https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2416648601895002&id=1542120009347870

Just for clarification, is it okay to add this to the pages now?

Another thing is that, the list of add-on voicebanks on the VOCALOID website includes voicebanks of other companies (LUMi is included as well?). I want to clarify if the banks are also distributed by YAMAHA, or is it something else?

Last thing, it seems like the link to v3 and v4 VY banks pages (on YAMAHA's website) no longer work. This includes VY1v4, VY2v3, CYBER DIVA, and CYBER SONGMAN. Is it okay to delete them too?

Lynnellet (talk) 16:44, September 4, 2018 (UTC)


 * I think it would be fine to add those links to their product pages. I'm unsure about the add-on voicebanks. Perhaps Angel might know what to do with those?


 * As for the pages that no longer work, I wouldn't delete them. Just strike them out with.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  16:47, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

Page of Miku's songs with 1M views: size issue
Hello Viper,

With Lynn we were talking about the page of Miku's songs with 1M views. The page has a warning (ref to "Categories") saying there are too expensive calls of the parser function.

I looked at the definition of this and it's because of several templates (such as "ifexists", "pagesincategory" or "pagesize").

My guess is that Wikia actually uses the function "PAGESIZE" (counts every char on a page, so it should import every line and adds every char it finds, including line breaks) and when it reaches a certain threshold, it automatically sets the category as a warning. I think this threshold is at about 50,000 chars while the page of "1M songs for Miku" is at a bit more than 71,000.

Lynn was maybe thinking to separate this page into 2 ones (and then add other pages if needed when we see we approach too much the threshold): "2007-2012" and "2013-2018+". She didn't know about the covers and I thought "maybe on the last page everytime".

Knowing that if we do this change, that means we would have to update the navigation template.

Which split do you think could be quite efficient to avoid reaching 50,000 chars?

If you don't know, no worries, if you know who could help as well, it would still help. :)

I'll try to do some tests in my sandbox this afternoon (should be morning for you).

Thanks :D

Tokina8937 10:15, September 5, 2018 (UTC)


 * Ask Bunai. I think the Pagesize thing was something not to worry about, but I don't recall.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  11:31, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive User
Hello! This user has been writing intimidating messages to User:Speedyblue. It may be best if you block them.


 * --akumi (need something~?) 22:42, September 6, 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry I missed it. It happened as soon as I left campus to go home. Meerkat has taken care of it.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  23:24, September 6, 2018 (UTC)


 * That's completely fine.


 * --akumi (need something~?) 23:35, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

I would like to admit that the disruptive user was me using a fake/joke account. If I could be blocked for sockpuppeting, I’ll appreciate it. Speedyblue (talk) 18:03, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

I read the blog post. Viper, to be honest, personally I wouldn't go until the ban. I'll leave a comment on the blog post, and hope this will serve as a lesson.

Tokina8937 18:22, September 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy - I'll let it off, but please do not do it again. It's disruptive and, unfortunately to put it bluntly, a waste of people's time.


 * Please stick to one account.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  18:28, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

I understand...I do apologize...and I will NEVER do it again. Speedyblue (talk) 18:31, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Can I Please Have Some Help With Breaking On A Page?
Hello! I’ve been having trouble editing a page I made recently, due to constant breaking. May I please have some help? Thanks. Speedyblue (talk) 02:06, September 16, 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn't get back to you right away. Seems that Zach took care of it already.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  02:37, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

Icon of Chinese songs producer Mimi
Hello Viper,

Little info and little request attached to it :D

I re-imported the icon of Mimi (the Chinese songs producer), Meerkat deleted it because of spam, so that means it has been vandalized before (by "you know who").

I just ask you to protect this picture, at least at autoconfirmed level, or even sysop if you want. :)

You can even restore the history of the file and overwrite my version if it wasn't the good one. I hesitated between the NND and the YT icon... And re-imported the YT one in the "original dimension" ver.

It's not really Meerkat's fault, no need to scold them just for that, I guess they just saw the picture and told themselves "hop, spam", without looking at the file history.

Thanks :)

(And if Meerkat reads this conv, now they'll know the real story of this icon ;) )

Tokina8937 10:44, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

- Meerkat (talk) 12:42, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. ^^;; Though images usually are not targets for protection, I have protected the image for abit as a precaution.

Re:Need an opinion on something
Personally, I prefer precision to official description. When a vocalist's voice is audible and plays a significant part throughout the whole song (based on the number of lines they sing), they are also counted as a main singer too.

For this song, you are right, Luo's voice does overpower Miku's a tad bit in the chorus. You can hear Luo's part throughout the song, as her voice is clearly more natural-sounding to that of Miku's. It's surely a duet for me. Lynnellet (talk) 13:09, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

koneko comments
can yo delete my comments on konekono payapaya? Niayume (talk) 03:54, September 30, 2018 (UTC)


 * All set.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  04:09, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Inactivity. Again.
Nebulous, just give you heads up, my status is now semi-active due to school works and stuff. So, expect me not making a lot of edits.....

Sorry.... ;(

VocaloidDefence 17:01, October 6, 2018 (UTC)


 * No problem. Good luck with school!


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  00:09, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Admin opinion request
Hi! If you wouldn't mind, could you take a minute to weigh in on a discussion about whether or not something breaks a policy? The discussion can be found here. Thanks in advance for the help! Wikikinetic (talk) 20:03, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Please Block These Vandals
Users Hee hee heeeee! and Hellomcdonalds keep vandalizing my and some other users' userpages. It’s actually causing me to become stressed out due to the constant vandalism. Speedyblue (talk) 11:42, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * Just woke up... took care of it and still in process of getting rid of their junk.


 * - NebulousViper Talk Page  13:18, October 7, 2018 (UTC)