Talk:CircusP/@comment-60.48.100.174-20131127095619/@comment-53539-20151120173828

As its been said, a lot of it is to do with it being seeing as dishonest. Since Vocaloids only sell limited number, with Miku's 60,000+ having been a remarkable note and 500 for Kaito making hi a flop... Well... Its very easy for a vocaloid sales to be impacted by Pocaloid users and downloads. See VY2, the amount of downloads he has is on par with Miku's legit sales.

I'm not going to argue if Pocaloid takes away sales, because any illegal version of any software or other copyrighted material can do that to be frank. Pocaloid in that sense is nothing special. But there is a lot of ache over HOW MUCH Pocaloid can easily effect it.

In addition, with UTAU around and other syns that are much, much cheaper there is a sense of "well whats the excuse this time?". UTAU users see their fando as legit as the Vocaloid fandom, and using UTAU over Pocaloid helps them waaaay more then Pocaloid helps Vocaloid.

In the case of CircusP you also have this whole issue of his popularity. People can often take on board or use others as a excuse to justify why they are doing it. Honestly, Planty-P was far worst, it pretty much noted his Rana wasn't legit despite his claims and he was a lot more drama inducing, so his use of Pocaloid was just another nail in the coffin. The overall drama was to the point where his name was at one point like a swear word spoken at one stage within the fandom.

In addition, unlike many series and other franchises, there is often not much merchandise for many of these Vocaloids. Miku would be able to go without a engine update due to the amount she has, but others like Oliver have basically nothing to their name. So that 1 copy of Oliver a person buys is the only thing that matters.

So a lot of this is, like many things in Vocaloid, a combination of many things can tick people off a lot. Overall, this wikia isn't really allowed to support it, but other places like VO are ore neutral about it but can't always express it either. Its nothing I'd want to be seen openingly to support ether way, advice given. I see it as not as harmful also, as I became a Pokemon, One Piece, Sonic etc, etc, because in the early 2000s I illegally downloaded things. It lead to legit purchases in my case, I own every DS and 3DS pokemon main game except the new version of Ruby... To example myself. Either way, there is very little benefits right now to Pocaloids existence then negativity, since many Vocaloid shave ore illegal downloads then legit sales. Until this scale changes and the balance is in favour of sales over illegal downloads I doubt the overall attitude towards Pocaloid and Pocaloiders will change. :-/