User talk:Bunai Di/Archive 6

dex "user track"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1npRLb6iQ9c

zero g listed this cover on dex's page. should it be added or what?

EmbraceEvil (talk) 04:48, November 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not sure, I can't tell if it was the company or suggested by Empath and Kenji.
 * You type about it on their voice bank page instead, since they are not demos. -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:55, November 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * ok thanks EmbraceEvil (talk) 04:58, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Is it possible to add background colours to the VB templates?

I just updated Luka's V4x page to try something out and I would like to know if its possible. I would like to add a background tain of 3 shades of grey if its possible. I thought this might help read things.

I can't come up with anything better for Luka V4x, so this is all I've got....No one else has done anything to fix it and I can't describe my thoughts to ask anymore then I can fix it... >_< One-Winged Hawk (talk) 15:48, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Producers with controversy
Honestly, if people are still harassing Circus because of his past performances, then I think that's an issue... especially since he doesn't do it anymore and proved honesty by showing his VOCALOIDs.

While I also feel that it's historical information, I think his safety counts more. :/

I'm not sure about Planty and other controversial producers... but I think if they can prove themselves like Circus did and redeem themselves, then I suppose it would be up for discussion?

- Mistery Valencia Eevee Talk Page  16:01, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

Unity-chan
Unity-chan needs a gallery, and I know since she's not a new VOCALOID that belongs to a company that has released VOCALOID already I'm not sure if you want to wait until after her release. If I get the ok I'll go ahead and make it, I just want to double check. It'll be in the sandbox still. I also know you like to make 300x172 versions for the gallery image so I'm not sure if you made one/plan to.

Thanks! 20:56,12/9/2015

Voc@loid M@ster Gallery
//Sorry for the message spam// The images of the page have made it SUPER cluttered, so I was wondering if I can give it a gallery? I made something quick in my Sandbox if you want to see it.

Thanks, 03:23,12/13/2015


 * Sure ^_^ -- Bunai82 (talk)

Editing & Creating Song Pages
Hi Bunai!

I just have a small question- are you allowed to make song pages for other songs that don't have pages? (they aren't mine, I don't have any originals because I am too stupid to make an original)

I also would like to ask if you can edit pages like songs to add info likes plots and hall of fame info?

Thanks!

Katli10 (talk) 18:48, December 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, yes you can create song pages for songs not yet present.
 * There is a project list going on now which you can choose from if you have the time.
 * Wiki projects:Priority Song Pages

-- Bunai82 (talk) 18:58, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll take a look at the list in a sec and maybe start a page if i'm not lazy ^o^

Katli10 (talk) 19:32, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

(sorry for another msg, I didn't know to put this in a new message or not) Hey again >-<

So i created the page, and it's still a work in progress, but I need some feedback.

I also have a question, how do you set a picture and a color at the top? I can't seem to do it-- the picture doesn't appear and the color messes up the format.

Thanks!

Katli10 (talk) 00:39, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Feedback & Help with a new page
(sorry for another msg, I didn't know to put this in a new message or not) Hey again >-<

So i created the page, and it's still a work in progress, but I need some feedback.

I also have a question, how do you set a picture and a color at the top? I can't seem to do it-- the picture doesn't appear and the color messes up the format.

Thanks!

Katli10 (talk) 00:39, December 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * The file name you put in the page has to match the file name of the image you uploaded. For color, look for the section on colors at Vocaloid_Wiki:Song_Article_Guideline. —umbreon 126 00:50, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Electric Angel comments
One of the editors is complaining about the number of comments on Electric Angel saying that the Rin and Len cover was better than the original. She feels that only talking about the cover and barely any of the comments toward the original Miku version were positive is considered spammy in some way.

In my opinion, I think people have a right to express which version they like the most so it isn't exactly spam. It has a relation to the song itself, it just isn't about the original singer.

However, I do have an issue with comments calling people names and claiming that certain covers were the original.

I would like to know your opinions on this and whether or not something should be done about this page. I don't think anything could be done because writing which cover or version you like is not spam unless it had nothing to do with the song at all. But what do you think?

Thank you in advance!

- Mistery Valencia Eevee Talk Page  05:53, December 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I have the same view as you, the comments are critic. The comment by 50.161.242.253 was clearly done sarcasticly to show their like for the cover.


 * I would only object if the comments got toxic and intentionally spammy. Besides one comment, I am not seeing the issue of people talking about the cover, unless you want to disable the comments and direct the discussion towards the forums. -- Bunai82 (talk) 06:39, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Maid Star Series
Hey Bunai.

It looks like the Maid Star Series page template was messed with down at the The Maids section. Since I don't know how to edit a template, I decided to ask you since I've seen you edit templates.

Thanks! Katli10 (talk) 01:39, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Gaming footer
Hi, Bunai82!

A user nominated this site for inclusion in our gaming footers. Normally I reach out and contact an admin of the nominated site if it was posted by a regular user; in this instance, due to the way the site was included (different name), it appeared the user was an admin; the error is mine for assuming the name listed was correct. Thinking an admin here had nominated this site, I went ahead and included it on the footer, which can now be found on the main page.

Angel Emfrbl caught it and brought it to my attention that this was actually less a gaming site and no admin here had asked for inclusion. That being said - this site is better than the other gaming ones that fall short of the inclusion requirements. Seeing as how a lot of information about the games can be found here, I'm fine with it still being on the main page and the site being included (in fact, if desired, it could be moved to the actual gaming overview page here).

If you're not okay with it, though, I can remove the site from the footer and the footer from the main page.Raylan13 ( talk ) 22:34, January 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good :) I can swap it over if you'd like, or just wait until the update. Raylan13 ( talk ) 22:54, January 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Moved it over ;) Thanks again! Raylan13 ( talk ) 22:53, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Giga-P assumed retired?
Hey, so I saw a post by another producer who said they hope Giga makes music with the new Kagamine update, which reminded me of something. Hhe's been dead for over a year now and so I wanted to know if he even said he was getting/had bought the update on his twitter. I saw nothing.

That's why I thought maybe we should put the retired template on his page? His last song was posted well over a year ago and he's done music for reol in that time, plus to my knowledge the only mention of Vocaloid he's made in the last year or so was stating that Hibikase broke 1 million views on NND.

I know that not announcing you bought a Vocaloid doesn't mean you haven't purchased it. But, he used to be very dedicated to the Kagamines, so I thought he would at least show excitement for the update and express interest in/purchase the update upon release. Many producers who cared much less about the Kagamines did.

So, I thought with the fact that he hasn't done anything with Vocaloid since September of 2014 and that he seems to be more focused on his utaite career and his work with reol than Vocaloid that he should get the retired template unless/until he puts something new out.

02:39,1/10/2016


 * I would wait it out.
 * I hope you mean 'dead' as in- 'still alive just not producing Vocaloid works'. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:46, January 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I do. Bad phrasing, sorry. >.< 02:50,1/17/2016

AKAZA img
Sorry for two messages in a row. I found a render of AKAZA with the logo, it's official art but I'm pretty sure it's a fanmade render, not sure if I should upload it? 02:21,1/17/2016


 * Unsure. Although it would be preferred that the official art is uploaded. I guess this can be a stand in until AKAZA is available by the company. They clearly have the graphic for her as seen on the Con-banners.-- Bunai82 (talk) 02:44, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Seires Pages
Hi Bunai, I was thinking of making a page for mothy's less know series Four Ends, is it ok to add seires pages?Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 16:07, January 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't see an issue about that. It is keeping track of original work. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:56, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Gynoid Co., Ltd./VOCALOID/Marketing
Special:WhatLinksHere/Gynoid_Co.,_Ltd./VOCALOID/Marketing doesn't list any voicebank pages. Is this supposed to be like this? —umbreon 126 23:00, January 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Mislinked the page, I corrected it now.
 * Thanks.-- Bunai82 (talk) 23:26, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Anon
Hi Bunai!

The anon 68.3.55.61 vandalized the Songs featuring Hatsune Miku category.

See contributions: Contributions/68.3.55.61

DisaPP (talk) 13:14, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for closing that Fourm,

Best Regards,

KasumaySTUDIOS.

Kagamine touch up
Couple things with the Kagamine page. I noticed that you redid the song listing section, and for some reason on the Kagamine page the logo showing is just Rin's and not the two of them. I don't want to touch those templates so I thought I should let you know. Also, your bot account deleted three of the images in their gallery page with the reason they were unused -- however, of course, they were in the gallery. Before I restore them I wanted to double check with you. 

04:34,3/3/2016

Lorra
Lorra did have a voicebank (in fat more then one since it had to be redone), we just didn't get to hear it and I thought that was enough. Regardless, the only character so far not to warrant it was Lui because he never even had a vocalist selected. If the criteria is "public release" then Ring, Ueki, project 575, Akikoroid, hide, etc are questionable. She isn't an extended library and has a name... Therefore a page. One could argue "Zeke" deserves a page but we have little idea on if that is a name of the vocaloid, though I have been tempted to go with it as a placeholder name, like I did for hide... With notes about it in the intro.

I fail to see why we should not include her just because she was abandoned, with the only exception being to avoid the constant fan-whines like people ive over Ring and Lui... And I thought that had no impact on the overall wikia?

On a serious note... What do you think about making a page for that Zeke thing? Its really hard to research which is why its stuck on status only. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 06:36, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Background template usage
Hi Bunai~

I overdid about the background. Sorry! (¯ ▽ ¯ *) ゞ

I'll have more attention in the next editions.

Thanks!

DisaPP (talk) 14:21, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Notices.css
The code is based on this part of the page source; as you can see, there is no  in there, nor is there. ;) (See also this explanation of the  stuff.) --Umbreon126 22:11, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

(from User:Ohjesusohboy)
I asked this question on Vocaloid Lyrics wiki, however it was suggested I ask here. All songs featured in both Project Diva F 2nd and Project Diva X have official Chinese translations, and I was wondering if I could add them to the pages. If you think it would make the pages too cluttered, or you just don't want it for any other reason, I understand.

Ohjesusohboy (talk) 02:36, April 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello.
 * If these lyrics are for localization by region, then the lyrics won't serve a purpose here. Unless the North American release does have some form of duel or multi translation.


 * However, if the producer of a song has officially provided or approved translations in other languages (and they happen to be in Project Diva), such as the producer of 戯言スピーカー_(Tawagoto_Speaker), which has a succeeding version featuring YANHE or Mitchie M who actively approves translations to add to their official uploads, then it would be acceptable. But you seem to be referring to translations that are out of region of North America.  And while this wiki does keep track of Project Diva games, we are not strictly about Vocaloid related games,- we are about 'VOCALOID as a franchise'.


 * On a related note there is a Chinese wikia here for Vocaloid but it has since been abandoned: http://zh.vocaloid.wikia.com - this might be the better option. Or try starting a Chinese wikia specifically about Project Diva, because then this English wikia can link to it as an affiliated source.

-- Bunai82 (talk) 16:06, April 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * FWIW 詩 (Shī) includes a Japanese translation of the Chinese lyrics. —umbreon 126 16:38, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

what errors
what errors were fixed in the edit? to me it seemed more like it was in response to our conversation here

http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:9416 not anything angel did EmbraceEvil (talk) 01:45, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

re: page
i dont think their edit had ANYTHING to do with what Angel did. i think it was solely because they disagreed with what was on the page. i tried to undo because i think they removed stuff they shouldn't have. EmbraceEvil (talk) 00:16, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

just saw their comment on the page in question. i'm not sure anymore EmbraceEvil (talk) 06:20, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Broken page comments
Since  pages don't support comments, we now have this mess. Wikia doesn't want to look at it immediately (being the cynic that I am I guess this means never). What should we do? —umbreon 126 06:59, April 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I figured Forums or the Talk pages would suffice when a page is labeled with the Project title.
 * I will be leaving the 'Priority Songs listing' in the mainspace because the comment section actually functions best there. The other two I moved really had no discussions worth to them.


 * Perhaps an option would be requesting a new type of namespace as an alternate of  pages, so that the comment section would be enabled. This can be done by contacting the Wikia Staff.  -- Bunai82 (talk) 07:09, April 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * But what do we do with the abandoned comments? Figure out a way to move them to the talk page? —umbreon 126 07:57, April 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Looking at the history of the pages, it seems they were moved but without the comments option being selected? I understand the purpose of correcting a over-redirects but the results are a bit confusing.
 * A test option would be to move a comment page ( the Priority Songs listing' comments) to the current new name to see if they restore themselves.
 * Or I can go through them and copy them to an archive if you want, but other than that I would just batch delete them.


 * Sorry, I didn't previously understand your question. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:08, April 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I dealt with them by subst:ing them to the talk pages, for example [ [Talk:Wiki projects:Translations page|here]] here. Should I delete the old comments now? Or should I wait for Wikia to fix it (well, they claim that will will fix it) —umbreon 126 09:14, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I have deleted them. —umbreon 126 03:54, May 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you.
 * I guess the multiple page renames caused the comments to error. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:27, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

"Songs featuring {Vocaloid}" articles are still locked.
Hello, admin. I wanna ask you why Songs featuring ARSLOID, Kohaku, Fukase, and others are still locked when Vocaloids like Fukase has achieved a notable status? Please response. mahalisyarifuddin talk 09:55, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * If you read the notice featured on each page you will see the reason why it is locked.
 * If these VOCALOIDs have highly viewed songs then contact an admin to unlock the page for editing. -- Bunai82 (talk) 12:51, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've read the notice. But Fukase have a lot of notable songs, and that page still locked. mahalisyarifuddin talk 13:41, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I would not know this if someone did not tell me about it. Hence the notice.
 * If a Vocaloid has notable songs then ask to have a page unlocked. It doesn't happen automatically and it can't be done without the help of a contributor. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:10, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh okay. Could you unlock Songs featuring Fukase please? Thanks for the response. :""3 mahalisyarifuddin talk 14:33, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding The Updated Band Articles
Hello, I'd like to thank you for improving all of the articles, they're much more orginized now than they were, I was really surprised when I first noticed. One of the only reasons I use wikia is to update recent info on the bands, I'm very happy to see that the articles now have a more professional touch to them. Great job!

Andoryu777 (talk) 01:36, May 10, 2016 (UTC)Andoryu777


 * Thank you.
 * I wanted to clear up what seemed to be slowing down editors and that was individual pages along with trying to keep track of their concert playing. Hopefully everything being in one spot will encourage people to keep things updated. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:04, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Question about tags
Hello, Bunai. I was looking at Special:TagsReport and found that 40+ song pages use tags for lyrics. I just wanted to ask if they should be changed over to Template:Lyrics? AnimeCargirl (talk) 18:29, May 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * If they are English based, then yes, please do.
 * Although some might be due to quotes or shared lyrics so do look out for that. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:31, May 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * IMO it should be the other way around because Template:Lyrics consists solely of a set of poem tags and templates have all sorts of weird syntax problems (as listed on the documentation page). —umbreon 126 05:03, May 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * The templates 'Jp' and 'Rz', shouldn't be used due to being incompatible with Wikia's default skin 'Oasis'. They are still there because I need to go through the pages they are used on and remove them, but the original 'Lyrics' functions just fine. It is not much different than what other people use on their wiki for lyrics, it contains the Poem tag with added options to move the text forward or backward on the page. -- Bunai82 (talk) 13:01, May 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "moving text forward or backward"? Template:Lyrics' code is incredibly simple and has no other features than putting text inside tags. —umbreon 126 17:27, May 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Template:LyricsJp and Template:LyricsRz are no longer used. 17:38, May 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, it was there but you removed it. So never mind.


 * The mentioned templates have been deleted. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:14, May 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * OH is that what that was? Oops. —umbreon 126 02:12, May 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * It was just an extra option to make sure the lyrics weren't hugging the page as much as it does on the Oasis skin. So again, never mind it,- especially if the margin issue has been fixed already.
 * I am always on monobook by default so things appear different. -- Bunai82 (talk) 03:04, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Conversation revival:
 * 1.  probably does not do what you want:   there is , it puts   into an HTML tag's   section.
 * Result:


 * Result after the wiki software cleans up this terrible invalid HTML code:

(I've fixed it up so that it *always* has padding-left. I've also reduced padding-left's size to be less dramatic.)
 * 2. Comparing these different versions of a page using Template:Lyrics and the poem tag, it seems that using Template:Lyrics has little advantage over and in fact may cause template malfunction. —umbreon 126 10:48, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Few Concerns Before Making a Page
Hey, it's been a while since I've been on here; I've been busy with high school, but it's great to be back and get to working again! So I'm about to add 2 more song pages (今日も怯えていますか？ and 恥ずかs×××), but before I proceed to do so I have some questions:

Thank you for the feedback and once again, I'd like to reiterate how happy I am to be back here.
 * 1) How should I title the latter one, in the format of 恥ずかs××× (Hazukasxxx)?
 * 2) Should I add the questionable lyrics banner, and if so, how do I add the banner?
 * 3) Is the VocaloidLyrics Wiki a good source for Romaji lyrics?

Phantomviz (talk) 02:38, May 21, 2016 (UTC)Phantomviz


 * 恥ずかs××× (which would be 恥ずかs××× (Hazukas×××)) is not questionable.
 * Regardless of the source, romaji lyrics should always be proofread and checked. They (and we) aggregate romaji from various sources. —umbreon 126 02:43, May 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, I re-listened to the song while comparing the lyrics and proofread the lyrics. The former song seems to have a few mistakes in its romaji transliteration, but the latter song checks out fine. It's getting pretty late at my end and I'm about to go to sleep. I'll continue this (and hopefully) add the both pages by tomorrow.
 * Phantomviz (talk) 03:15, May 21, 2016 (UTC)Phantomviz

Translation project
Sorry for he delay, I had some sort of bug that prevented me seeing my talk page (or anyone else's) I gave it a few weeks to cler up, and ironically the day I go to report it I can finally see it again. :-/

It just appeared whit or wouldn't load.

The translations page is disappointing, its all stuff we needed to do, I abandoned its use. It was suppose to be a "pick up" pile for translators. Dame was doing it, but it wasn't fair for one person, native or not to hold tat work load and I always felt guilty that they were the only one knocking on it.

Before I resigned, I was going to put up a "help wanted" sign on the front page to advertise we needed more translators...

I've been busy with a lot of life things right now... I'm worried about dealing with things like my mother's hording issues and the elder of my two half-bros has been on sucide watch because he can't take the stress. He is going through what I went through nearly 5 years ago. I'm worried. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 18:20, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Song Listings

hey sorry about that, i will keep that in mind.

thanks for telling me :)

Song Listings
hey sorry about that, i will keep your advice in mind. i was mostly thinking who was in the song and thats why i edited it like that.

thanks for telling me :) Lilith Noir (talk) 01:39, May 28, 2016 (UTC)Lilith Noir

Lot of things
In the last week? I had a throat infection.

Before that... These days I grow ever wary. Even if I take a break I return to aging things within the wikia and this fandom, its not its not something not within the fandom... Its just unlike any other fandom, this one seems... Well... A little dim-witted at times.

In terms of editing... I'm trying to look at old pages and adapt them to modern things we do like with CV04... But I don't know if I'm doing the right thing or not. I've had this problem with the wikia since day 1. Its not a serial series like a comic. Everythings so scattered. I never know where to start when I come on.

Plus.. On top of that tried returning to VO with he same effect as always... Its not them, its kinda me. I feel like the one place besides here I shouldn't see comments I expect from a new fan being spoken by a veteran. Their not attacking the wikia as much, but they still attack us if we make a mistake. That doesn't bother me anymore... Its this; I recently spoke about Vocaloids in other languages in a certain topic. Next thing I know... I'm bascally being told "I shouldn't tell others what to enjoy and what not". At NO POINT in this fandom in my entire time hve I ever said that. Its not just Dez... A lot of people are getting the idea. It used to be people felt I was trying to be a "know it all", now they seem to think I'm trying to rule fans... I don't get it myself... But you know... It seems in this fandom, even if you bring proof to the table of something, they don't want to believe you and instead just kick and bite at you for conflicting with their ideals of what Vocaloid is.

Its not that this hasn't always been a thing, its it shouldn't be the thing you know. When I went to look into Chipspeech... Well... The small fandom it has was... Wonderful. And guess it was a warm fuzzy feeling. It reminded me of my early days on the internet in the early 2000s. They don't argue over the same level of nonsense topics.

I know peoples say "all fandoms are this..." but you know what. Its not 100% true. They all have the same sort of people but the position changes and the context. For example, the MLP fandom is more OC driven, and OCs are accepted but treated as a personnel extension of the person. In the Vocaloid fandom, OCs get pushed as though they are the real deal and are rarely taken personnel to the point of they become an avatar. In the One Piece fandom, rguments that went against canon ended when you showed a chapter... In the Vocaloid fandom they kinda insult you for trying to prove them wrong because they don't take the word of the developers at heart enough. In the comic book fandom, they'll counter your "Superman beats batman" theory by quoting "universe X" Batman could do this, if you get the idea.

In the FNAF, you have dedicated fans who theory toss ideas all the time... In the Vocaloid fandom...

I'm arguing over the term "transvestite" being used. In other fandoms, the whole trans-thing would have been shoved off in a day... in the Vocaloid fandom... There is someone who wants to make a song and dance about it even though it was a passing story, ignoring the rest of the story to fix on that 1 word. So my entire story was nothing to that person.. In the VO forums, Dez basically told me my arguments were moot as he didn't read them, so responded as such with only a basic idea of what they were. M best efforts to discuss something were wasted and I didn't really feel like even continuing to respond to him. I only did so to see whether or not he was going to stop pulling up straw man arguments like he had done in the past... But there was nothing...

In real life I'm happier, so on-line is becoming more misery, making me feel like "why am I logging on". Alright my life sucks, but its the best its been at this point in a long time. So I keep asking myself "what am I getting out of any of this anymore?". I've been in worst fndom... My time in the Dragoncave was my worst... Talk about the artists and their primadonna state of mind...Sesh... Say one thing that is remotely negative to an artists work and you get a lot of people wanting your head. And the Sonic fandom and Mortal Kombat fandoms are stuck in the 90s because their leading fans are too old to remember that thing were good when they were 8... Even if things are better recently and nostalgia is getting to them.

Plus... This year is my 16/17 yer on the net.. I'm starting to feel really old. I've been on the net since highschool and half my life. When people talk, I have tales to tell... Trouble is... Nobody cares. Lol. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 19:25, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a reason for the "250px [vocaloid] mascot" images now?
I was going to make a public thread on the forums but I saw you uploaded them two years ago (or one year ago in CyVA's case). In my opinion, they aren't needed anymore... for the newest V4 VOCALOIDs the images used are the same ones in their main product pages and the "Statistics" template already resizes them to 200px automatically in the first line of its code.

They're old so you've probably forgot they existed and it's fine, but if you don't and you're keeping them for some reason I'd like to know. Thanks! --ColorfulAnon (talk) 07:13, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * No, I didn't forget that they existed. They exist because HQ sized images do not resize properly on mobile. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:04, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ohhhh, that makes sense. I try to not use Wikia on my mobile because it tends to make it run slower. I never enter this Wiki either unless I want to edit something, and it's hard to do it there. It never crossed my mind that mobiles could have such problems, I knew they had some when displaying templates, but it's sad that images are also affected... Well, thanks again for your reply ^^ --ColorfulAnon (talk) 22:05, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

YT, NND, and SC views
Bunai, do you know what is the minimum number of YouTube views, Nico Nico Douga views and SoundCloud views before an article about a Vocaloid song should be created?

Please let me know on my talk page. Thanks!

02:18, July 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * There has never been a view count set when it came to create song pages for original songs.
 * Not every song gains thousands of views within the weeks of an upload. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:26, July 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. So it's fine to create a song article no matter how high the viewcounts are then?



Sorry, didn't mean to butt in.

There's nothing against creating a song page in references to the viewcounts, so it doesn't matter how well known or popular it is. As far as I know, we're not supposed to make pages for songs that uses illegal software (POCALOID) or the XSY loophole. In addition, people are generally not supposed to make song pages for the ones they're involved in (the producer themselves, the illustrators, the video editor, etc) as it's considered self promotion and biased.

- Mistery Valencia Eevee Talk Page  05:53, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

Cry (Creep-P song)
So last night, I created the Cry (Creep-P song). I hope you don't mind me asking this: how is the structure and layout of the article for you? Are there any lacking details? Is the background of the song too broad?

Please do let me know. It is actually my very first time to create an article here in the Vocaloid Wiki.

01:51, July 31, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, you did a good job. ^_^ -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:55, July 31, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bunai! I had to study the format of the Song Infobox as well as the format of the article. It's in honor to be in this wiki. ;D



MYUSAR-P
Do we delete pages upon request (and/or without verification that this user really a former member...)? —umbreon 126 05:07, August 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * We only delete pages and censor information if the page has violated the Wikia TOU and that we do indeed have valid confirmation of a person's request.
 * Is the MYUSAR page available on the Japanese wiki? And has there been any comments there or on social media that the group has been disbanded? -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:52, August 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * They seem to be a very minor group who has successfully disappeared from Google: myusar vocaloid —umbreon 126 21:17, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

Separation of the Megpoid/Original songs list
The Megpoid/Original songs list has gotten too long and should be separated into multiple pages like the Hatsune Miku/Original songs lists and Kagamine Rin/Original songs lists. (e.g. Megpoid/Original songs list, A-E) How should this be done?

Bluinbel (talk) 02:31, August 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll do it Monday, it takes making multiple pages and editing the second Songlist template.-- Bunai82 (talk) 02:44, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

Music feat Otomachi Una
Now that she has been out for a decent amount of time may I write it up. also may i give her a gallery image like the rest.R33ds (talk)

Admin concerns
Hello! I've been having a few issues in regards to two admins, Misteryevee and Umbreon126. In the past, I made several, several mistakes when editing song pages (creating high volumes of inaccurate pages, with incorrect lyrics, etc.), particularly in Chinese, Japanese and the like. Since then, I've improved and have created several quality song pages with few inaccuracies (like anyone else). However, since asking Mistery if he'd be willing to look over my first attempt at a Chinese song page, I received extremely cold, harsh responses, without even giving it a chance.

I find it ironic, considering they're all about patience and improvement. Saying I've "exhausted" that patience from actions of several months ago, seems extremely unfair. Not only that, but they've been abrasive and rude to me on several occasions, treating me like I'm not worth speaking to. It almost feels like I'm being bullied, to be honest. I've kept a straight face, but I'm not sure how to feel about being treated this way by two admins, whom I considered good people. I'd appreciate it if you could get back to me, and let me know if there's anything I can do about it. Thanks CCyclone (talk) 17:06, August 17, 2016 (UTC)CCyclone

Page Deletion for a Friend Who's Being Stalked
Hello! I'd like to request the deletion of this page as when I made it, I didn't know they had a stalker problem and they've asked if it can be taken down. It is somewhat urgent and I hope this is fixable soon. Thanks KoolFish420 (talk)

Could you please clarify?
I don't understand the message that you left on my talk page. Could you please clarify what it means? I'm confused because I have been including all that information in my edits.

Bluinbel (talk) 07:32, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. It looks like I had been putting titles in the wrong parameter. (Under 'Title' instead of '1') I didn't know that it made any difference. The flower list should be better now  but if it's' not too much trouble, could you please check that it is? Thank you.

Bluinbel (talk) 13:43, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

May I ask a favour?
The Alter/Ego and Chipspeech wikias have no song templates set up to make song pages. I'd like to make a few demo pages to the best I can, could you set up the templates for me and I'll handle the song pages?

I'm not good at these more complex templates... >_< One-Winged Hawk (talk) 20:01, August 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Do you want the Song box (default template) or the Song box 2 (updated template)? -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:31, August 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Updated please. Thank you! One-Winged Hawk (talk) 06:13, August 26, 2016 (UTC)

Don't now if and when you'll be adding them, but can I ask not this week? There is a major Chipspeech update tomorrow and Alter/ego need matching to Chipspeech's wikia updates I just did today. The edits are ahead of tomorrow, and tomorrow I'll be spending my afternoon added the two new characters at some point.

Songs can wait a week at least while I update things. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 12:53, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

The Vocaloid-related wikis template
Hello,

I recently found a wiki that focuses on another voice synth, NIAONiao. Is this considered a Vocaloid-related wiki, like the UTAU and Chipspeech wikis, or should I not add this to the footer? It doesn't look very well developed yet, so maybe putting it there would help it gain publicity?

Thanks in advance. Have a nice day/night!

K o tor i  tac h i  ~  T a l k ?  ~ M  y <font color="#FF34B3">bl  o <font color="#D581B1">g  02:10, September 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, it can be added to the footer. -- Bunai82 (talk) 11:52, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Related products
You deleted Related products but it still appears in MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation. —umbreon 126 06:38, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Comments On Magical Mirai (band)
Yesterday there were a couple of comments made in the comment section of the article "Magical Mirai (band)", I'm not sure if they violate the comment policy, but they had nothing to do with the band or the event itself, it was someone complaining (or just confused) about the past work of the illustrator. (inappropriate for young ages). I wanted to let you know incase if you'd want to remove the comments (or if it's even possible, move them to some other article comment section). I just don't think the comments fit at all with the article.

Andoryu777 (talk) 09:15, September 19, 2016 (UTC)Andoryu777

Iris Ire
Hi, I'm a editor in Vocaloid wiki Vietnamese and I need your help please, can you help me?

Iris Ire 03:05, October 16, 2016 (UTC)Tris

Duplicate categories(?) + Song box 2
Alrigt. Two things:
 * 1) Correct me if I am mistaken but are we actually getting duplicate categories like Songs with 100K YouTube views and 100K YouTube views? Both categories exist "separately".
 * 2) May I know when is the right time to use the Song box 2 template? Just a few weeks ago or so, I observed a number of articles whose Song box templates are being replaced by the Song box 2 template.


 * You can convert the current Song box to Son box 2 at any time. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:38, October 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Aaand how about the part about the duplicate categories? I have seen more than one sample.




 * They'll be deleted once converting of the template is completed. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:01, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

—umbreon 126, creator of song box 2 20:03, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Yes
 * 2) Any time. But please don't do the conversion by hand, and at any rate I plan to go through all pages myself semi-automatically so don't worry about converting pages yourself.

Needing help with the lrc color template
Good morning, Bunai. So today, I was updating this article. Because it is a duet song, I had to use the Lrc legend and Lrc color templates. But for some reason, I am having difficulty in trying to blend the Lrc color templates within the lyrics even though I believe I was doing things "right". So, can you please help me?

Thanks.


 * I noticed this too, when I was updating the lyrics in ショタショタアイランド_(Shota_Shota_Island). I fixed it by using a table, but I don't know if it's the best solution. And btw, @Pinkgirl234 you should also ask Umbreon, they created the Lrc color and Lrc legend templates after all. --ColorfulAnon (talk) 02:40, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * User:Umbreon126 would be the one to ask about both of these templates, as they are the one who created them.
 * Also, I would request for a Documentation page to be created as to know how the template functions. -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:03, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think Template:Lyrics is a good nor a necessary template. Sometimes templates stop working inside it for no apparent reason. See my latest response at . —umbreon 126 04:54, November 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * You can remove it if the problems are the template. -- Bunai82 (talk) 05:00, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

User:ThePascalboy
Hello, I am not a <span style="color:rgb(57,66,77);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;"> <span style="color:rgb(57,66,77);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;">sockpuppet I just help him out, how else should my friend create pages here?? He was told to do it this way..

no thanks
I'm fine being a regular editor.One-Winged Hawk (talk) 18:59, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Spoiler Tag
Hello. I have just a question. Do we have a spoiler tag on this wiki? Damesukekun (talk) 13:37, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * I used html overflow to hide long comments on my tutorial (mostly translation check requests). The case was solved. Sorry for bothering you. Damesukekun (talk) 06:11, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

http://vocaloid.wikia.com/index.php?title=Haruna_Ikezawa&diff=534861&oldid=534769
The point of the "/id" template was to allow linking to "#Haruna Ikezawa" instead of "#Macne Nana: Haruna Ikezawa". —umbreon 126 02:05, January 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry.
 * Feel free to overwrite my edits to complete this project.
 * I was thinking of doing a similar thing to the illustrators page, but I can wait. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:32, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Dejitaru-Ps Page Deletion
Why? Why? I Told You To Leave His Page Up! Why Did You Delete It?! Tell Me Who Was Apart Of This?!?!?!

MrCalneCa (talk) 05:09, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Sandbox
How Do You Make A Sandbox MrCalneCa (talk) 07:27, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

New Inforbox adaption
So I just added a section on the Vocaloid software infoboxes to list if the vocal was a digital or physical release. you can see it on big Al and Sweet Ann.

However, i don't quite know what to put the wiki-code as nor what to name it so I've gone with a temp. names of 'format' and 'sold as'. Would you suggest a better name? I'll implement it tomorrow, I just don't now what to write as a better pair of wording.

What do you suggest?One-Winged Hawk (talk) 20:24, February 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at it -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:30, February 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I would go with 'Sold as'. Even though I was thinking of 'Available as' or 'Available formats', but that's the same in another word. -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:50, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

german Vocaloid wiki
Hi there, i'm from the german Vocaloid wiki. I recently adopted the german wiki and I'm now updating our wiki. I wanted to ask, if you guys are ok if I follow your overall design of your wiki and adopt it for ours as well. I don't want to copy everything just following the structure.

Cinzya (talk) 19:39, March 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * You can if you want to.
 * This wiki is still being worked on, but so far we seem to be staying with the current layout and templates. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:35, March 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your help :)
 * -- Cinzya (talk) 22:32, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

VocaDB
We have VocaDB links on song pages, but I have to say VocaDB is full of wrong romaji transliterations and mistranslations. VocaDB welcomes all good and bad contributors without checking their Japanese skill. I think we should remove VocaDB links from this wiki, but I want to know your opinion first about this issue. Damesukekun (talk) 13:33, March 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * I believe [User:Umbreon126] links to VOcaDB because their database is far more vast than ours. So it isn't specifically about their lyrical translations, more so their information involving producers, VOCALOIDs, and detailed findings. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:09, March 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * ^This. (honestly I've never really used the lyrics section there) —umbreon 126 17:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Griefer
Hi there, we've been already in contact regarding our german Vocaloid Wikia. I just wanted to warn you, since at our page we've been dealing with a griefer (Kamikaze7 IP:213.162.68.86) for quite a while, who constantly contributed to the Rin and Len article that they ARE twins, and didn't even stop when politely asking or even trying to talk with them about the source they're/he's using and now it appears, that they've/he's been coming here too. Due to that we've temporary locked the article for about two weeks and just hours after unlocking it again, they've starting again. If possible please give them a warning too, since that seems to be the only way they realize it or just temporarily lock the article too.

- Cinzya (talk) 15:04, March 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the notice.
 * And just to inform you, we have removed the "CategorizeArticle" template, so check the "Template:Infobox Vocaloid" again to get the updated layout. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:42, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

MMD wiki
Umm... Hello... are you still Active in the MikuMikuDance Wikia ? the names Jeremy by the way. i'm one of newer contributers to the MikuMikuDance wiki of adding and Updating past Models that have been updated and some pages are not and adding newer ones from there creators. i like to know if you are Active. because recently that anonymous user often come and vandelize some Pages. well i don't have "admin rights" to block those vandelizers. i even tried to Adopt this wikia because all of you Admins have been inactive for a whole Year in the year 2016 but backfired due to Network Errors. so i have come now to contact some of you admins because a lot have been inactive. i want to ask of you to be an admin or find someone who has knowledge in MMD who are capeable of Handeling the wikia.

i'm going to contact some Admins if they are still active and ask them to find someone who can handle the wiki with Responsiblity.


 * Hello, I just discovered that my rights (and the original admins rights) were removed as someone else adopted the MMD wiki.
 * I will attempt to contact Wikia Staff to see if I can have temporary access to help out. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:21, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Insulting comment found
Found this insulting comment right here. Can you delete it please? Thanks.

A certain notice template?
Hi, Bunai. Does this wiki have a template that is meant to be a notice to viewers that a producer does not like their songs edited in a way, like nightcored or pitched for "genderbend" versions?


 * No, it doesn't. However, the 'reprint template' should cover that.
 * If producers don't mind reprints but dislike 'alterations' to their originals, then I suppose a template like this can be made. -- Bunai82 (talk) 11:25, August 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thanks for informing me.


 * But in all honesty, maybe we should have such template, considering that the reprint template pretty much says "The producer does not like this song reprinted me in other websites (whether or not you asked permission)" while an alteration template would say "The producer does not like this song altered in any way (Ex. nightcore, pitched for "genderbend" versions)". So yeah, both templates are sort of different.


 * What do you think? It might be worth it. I aknow one producer who strongly says in his videos not to make nightcore versions of his music, namely Dysergy.




 * I think that the no reprints template is unnecessary, and so is this one. —umbreon 126 19:48, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Spotify links of songs
Hello Bunai82. Does this wiki accept Spotify links of songs under the External links section?


 * You can add links to were any original song is present.
 * We just don't have a template link for many of them.-- Bunai82 (talk) 17:04, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

Gallery check
Hello,

I wanted to send you my gallery wip for the VY series. I included CYBER DIVA/SONGMAN because they were initially VYs, but I can remove them if you'd prefer they not be included.

Gallery wip

What do you think?CCyclone (talk) 03:52, November 21, 2017 (UTC)CCyclone

Yo
We need your input, there is an awkward thing about the new unveiled vocal, Vivi, that's put everyone in a position. I grabbed screenshots of a certain conversation, that's been linked to elsewhere. Be useful if you were on twitter.

I won't upload anything on the wikia as evidence, but I have it, the situation is serious. Forget everything we've had in the past, this is different. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 23:00, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Wiki broke?
parts in my sandbox were suddenly wiped and replaced entierly has something happened? Like I kept some of those color lyric boxes for copy pasting " " and it just was replaced with "Kagamine Rin", how?

Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 19:49, January 30, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing the problem as there is content on the page.
 * Usually when that happens it means you didn't seal the template code. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:41, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

wiki broke(more)
Even if I knew how to do that, I never edited anything, it just changed completly on it's own for no reason. It says i removed it my own but I didn't I swear. Also now whenever i try to edit any other page those  disappear on their own. Yes there might be content in my sandbox but alot of it changed and disappeared without warning, I can't restore it to the way it was before, I tried but it's impossible. Something must be wrong. Text doesn't just dissapear just because I clicked edit on some song pages. Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 14:12, January 31, 2018 (UTC)


 * Is it still like this? Because I checked the current page and a few of the past edits and things are still there. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:55, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

wiki broke(III)
So i tried editing it back best I could but it still somewhat messed up, it like it is changing itself as it's being published. And when I try to edit again the "br" stuff goes away, could try to edit meltdown-神威- (-Camui-) just to see if it's only a problem with me?

Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 20:35, January 31, 2018 (UTC)


 * Remove some of the coding, it could be that you went over the text limit. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:25, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

wiki broke (IV)
It's been bigger, and it's impossile for me to go over the limit becuase I never changed anything, everything was normal and then it suddenly changed on it's own for no reason. And it doesn't matter if "not much seems diffrent" things are changing without me doing anything. That's never suposed to happen.

Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 12:09, February 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, if it is a bug then report your page to the Wikia staff. That and I don't known which editor you are using. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:41, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE: External link capitalizing
I'm afraid I don't understand what "power casing" means. Can you explain? Misstress of the heavenly yard (talk) 19:49, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

孟姜女
Hello. Sorry for disturbing you. I wonder why you added back the pinyin to the translations of the song? The translations were included in the available download of the song and were not sung. Or is it necessary to add pinyin even if they are not the lyrics?

黒いKuroi ( talk )  23:41, March 3, 2018 (UTC)


 * I see. Thank you for telling me.


 * 黒いKuroi ( talk )  00:48, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hall of Fame or Hall of Legend
When writing Hall of Fame or Hall of Legend in song articles, are we required to italicize them in accordance to this wiki's manual of style (ex. This song has entered the Hall of Fame.) or no (ex. This song has entered the Hall of Fame.)?


 * I believe it started with wanting the title to stand out from the rest of the text, so yes, italicize it.
 * If there are articles that don't have this then don't worry about it. Everyone has a different editing style. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:03, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Page renaming help
Can I ask you to help rename the article 40meterP to 40mP? I tried to rename it but for some reason, it won't let me. In the case of that article, I probably can't rename it unless I am an administrator. I'm not quite sure.

My reason for wanting to have the article renamed is that the producer mainly uses 40mP rather than 40meterP (although the latter can be mentioned in the article as one of his aliases).

== Account Issue==

Hi Bunai I don't mean to be a bother but I may have accidentally spammed and did not realize it and someone may have suspended my account? I cannot tell for sure. I'm not entirely sure who to discuss this with. I was editing a comment a few too many times and did not realize that created new notifications for you all. I apologize if that was an issue. I assumed when editing a comment it only showed up for me. If there is a way to resolve this issue may we discuss this?

Manaboy223 (talk) 21:36, April 25, 2018 (UTC)Manaboy223 (Joe)

Discussions
Hi Bunai_Di; I'm Amanda with FANDOM's community development team! I wanted to see if you were interested in turning on Discussions.

In case you are unaware of the feature, Discussions was introduced last year to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly, and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. You can read more about Discussions here.

For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.

If you have some concerns, Discussions and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.

Let me know what you think, and if you want to proceed I can get the ball rolling.Witnessme (talk) 22:50, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Hi again! Checking in again to see if you'd decided on whether or not to enable discussions. If you could get back to me by Monday that'd be great. Thanks!Witnessme (talk) 21:29, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

"Case Tmbox"
Hello,

I began to talk a bit about Tmbox with NebulousViper but since he doesn't really know about it and told me to ask you about the case, so here is the problem.

The thing is that Tmbox is dead since August 2017. Actually, a bit earlier, they displayed a message on their website that the service would shut down on April 1st 2018 (first date announced). On June 6th 2017, it became impossible to access the interface to upload things. Then the announced closure date became December 31st 2017.

The website went on outage on August 2017, and never came back online since (they told about it on their official Twitter, which is still online).

Tmbox's team also invited their users to go to either Soundcloud (very well known from Western fandom) or MQube (which is, now, the exact equivalent of Tmbox) before the website went down.

That means all Tmbox links are dead.

I don't know what to do with this website on the Wiki. If by chance you know what we should do for all existing Tmbox links (on both page songs and producer pages), please tell me.

And maybe we should add MQube to the list of platform websites (in the songbox templates, maybe create a formatting for the website for example). (As for the category if some producers have a MQube account, there is already a page)

What do you think about it?

Tokina8937 09:04, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

''PS: Think to modify the link for creating a new discussion post at the top of your page, it's still redirecting towards the old username... ^^" The original post went to the old page before I re-do this one on the right one because of that''

Repairing of a template needed
Hello Bunai, :)

Sorry to disturb again, we just have a little issue with the Pixiv and Deviantart links for Mo Qingxian and Zhiyu Moke. The thing is that on the page the links appear in a messy and incorrect way (not the right case). When I opened the editor, the classic visual one showed a bunch of messy lines, like if it was trying to treat the URLs but... :/

Return to source editor, the lines just disappear. When I return to the visual mode, surprise, they disappear... :(

I asked Viper if there was a way to correct it, sadly he doesn't really know either. I also tried in my own sandbox (bottom of the page) to do a "repaired" template (and I copied/pasted the source itself in colored text). With the repaired template by trying to set the same way as the other links, the links do not appear. And I suspect this is due to the question marks (I already had problems for formatting the "l" template with links having a question mark (e: tvPot links)). So yeah, the "repaired" template is less messy but we lose the links.

On the normal pages, the Deviantart link shows up correctly (only the Pixiv one is problematic) but both get erased in the source if we open it up.

Is there a way to correct the problem? If there is one, I'd like to know how to react the next times. :)

Thanks :D

Tokina8937 20:24, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Update the Translation template?
Hello Bunai, I have a little question,

As you know the Wiki does not tolerate reprints anymore (unless specified as authorized). I removed all the reprints for song pages (exception: the ones specified as authorized), and now I do the same treatment to the producers pages.

Let's set up the situation.

What is allowed to set on the Wiki for the links to producers's uploads are:

- any official links (adding the correct comment if the link is dead)

- if there are some, authorized reprints (having a proof in the description for example)

Most of mistranslations happen on reprints, and I think that's what the "Translation" template is talking about.

But since the policies for the Wiki changed, maybe it would be better to replace this template by another one saying no reprints are allowed on the Wiki unless they are specified as authorized by the author. But I'd like to know how would like to settle the thing up. New template? Modification of the current one? Comment?

(For the moment I'm using an invisible comment, but this is a temporary thing...)

Even as for now the "Translation" template is a bit... "Not respected everytime". I mean some official videos can also have some mistranlated subs/captions. :s And they have to be added still, because they're official videos.

What do we do? And should we use a discussion topic as we did for the "should we forbid reprints"?

Thanks :)

Tokina8937 12:00, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

[July 20th - update]

I wrote a discussion post just here and tried to make it the most complete possible. Like this, anyone, any admin, can tell what they think about it. :)

For the moment I'm still proceeding with the invisible comment thing, just to warn new users to not add reprints anymore to the featured works list. This can avoid some "damage".

Tokina8937 12:44, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me, I have a question
I was wondering if putting one’s own Vocaloid covers are allowed on one’s userpage. I was wondering if I could put my cover of It's dark! on my userpage. I’m sorry if this is a stupid question...

Thank you for your time. Speedyblue (talk) 16:28, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Synthesizer V wiki
Hi!

I was interested in setting up a Synthesizer V wiki. Where is the best place to look for setting it up like the other synth wikis? Thanks in advance.

Uchuu-nyan (talk) 11:12, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Vocaloid footer?
Hello, are there any requirements as for being added to the Vocaloid footer? I wanted to add the Synthesizer V wiki that I created, and I think it's even more crucial now that the software's been released.


 * --akumi (need something~?) 23:07, August 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks! I actually found out just a few minutes ago that someone else made a wiki about the same thing, so I'm trying to get in contact with them to get them merged, so it will be a while before it is added.


 * --akumi (need something~?) 23:22, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

==Nav Bars on Character pages==

'''Hey Bunai, I'm trying to replicate those little nav bars at the top of a characters page (Seperating VB pages from character pages) For the new SynthV Wikia. Ellie's page is cluttered as literal heck and looks weird, so if you could lend me a hand with that, I'd be very thankful ! I'm just hoping I don't need to be an admin for any of that, the Admin of the SV wikia isn't super active. VOCALOFAN (talk) 01:26, August 20, 2018 (UTC)'''

Insecure content and imports in Common.css
Hey, I'm seeing this popup appear in Chrome when I load the wiki. That's because you have imported a font from an insecure source in your MediaWiki:Common.css: To fix that, you can change the  in the URL to. If that remains that way the wiki will either lose the "Secure" mark in the URL bar when loaded or the font won't load at all (which was the case for me).

Additionally, your Common.css seems to be importing loads of unminified CSS on the top, which is more than likely to slow down loading of the page in general. Changing this: to this: will make the CSS make 1 HTTP request to load all CSS, minified so it takes up less space and loads faster, instead of making 10 HTTP requests to load unminified CSS pages with all the ineffective content in them.

Cheers! -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  09:14, August 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * I see you applied the changes to Common.css now, but the font URL was only changed in the CSS comment and not in the actually effective CSS. Could you replace: with ? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  21:33, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Songs having a questionable validity on original songs list
Hello Bunai,

Yesterday I made the reprints removal treatment for Clara, Maika and Merli's song lists pages. When I made Clara's pages, on the original listing one, I saw some songs had their validity questioned. The articles being linked to them are locked (maybe to avoid the pages being vandalized for a "hall of shame"?). The problem is... When I saw back the quality control page of the original songs lists, there's a "twilight zone" (if I can call it like this ^^") between the " Do notice that the Vocaloid wiki encourages producers to use legal software, this supports the product and prevents barring of linking to unsavory methods of VOCALOID usage. " and the rule to not remove any song from the original songs list.

Should the songs that are suspected to use such methods be removed from the original songs list or same applies to them?

For the moment they just have a warning comment (forgot to set them on Bruno's page as well), or visible or invisible. But is it really OK to leave these songs here knowing they could have probably used illegal software...? Knowing that it may count as an advertisement for these songs.

Also some pages of articles of these songs have dead derivatives. Example here. Didn't see anything abnormal on the other pages.

If the songs have to be removed from the list, just tell me and I'll go through the page again to remove them. If they don't have to be removed, I'll leave the page as it is (with the current warnings).

Thanks :s

PS: the visible comments are out of the template because the "etc" parameter does not display anything back other than in source mode...

Tokina8937 09:38, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

[Sept 3rd 2018 - answer]

If the text was Spanish, great chances I'd understand it (my Spanish level is a bit lower than my English one (I estimate it between B1 and B2 levels) but I can still understand a text quite well by reading it). Thanks for the explanations though.

Unless you estimate there should be a threshold of number of songs (Bruno and Clara are at the same level on their lists), maybe remove the concerned ones? They're not majoritary (max 5 or 6?). Else, no problem, I'll leave the page as it is with the visible warnings. Does it sound OK to you? :)

Tokina8937 06:27, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Parser warning for songs featuring Miku/1M+ list
Hello Bunai (and sorry again for disturbing ^^"),

With Viper I told about a little problem with the page containing the songs with Miku having between 1M and 10M views. It actually has a category, automatically set by Wikia, warning about too many expensive calls for parser function.

As I explained him, it's actually caused by certain functions (ifexists, PAGESIZE, PAGESINCATEGORY). In the case of Miku's songs page, many chances are that Wikia uses PAGESIZE to count the bytes number (I said to Viper "char numbers", but after testing, I saw that byte count and char count gave different results), like we can see when we go to the history check.

The idea first came with Lynn when I said the page with 1M+ songs for Miku was way too heavy, and Lynn thought about a separation "2007-2012"/"2013-nowadays" without knowing how to manage the covers. I then told her "probably on the last page everytime".

So Viper doesn't know very well and doesn't remember if the problem had to be taken care of. But if this is the case, there is a way to maybe avoid the parser warning. Estimating that the parser threshold warning is of 50,000 bytes (and not chars then).

To give you a little idea, I made a huge sandbox test giving to me each "PAGESIZE" of each section of the concerned page, reunited everything into a table and analyzed it. (Search for the sections "Final results" and "Analysis table")

Note: not said it, but setting covers on a page containing songs between 2007 and 2013 will also reach the threshold.

If a split of the concerned page had to be made, what would you rather? (Knowing that a heavy page will be extremely long to load)

Thanks :)

Tokina8937 13:21, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

[11:11 PM - answer]

OK so we split the page into 2, but how exactly do you want it splitted? Like in the proposal in the final results in the sandbox? (2007-2013 then 2014-2018+ and the covers?) Or in another way?

If I have the instructions I can do the split now if you want. :)

Tokina8937 21:13, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

[11:39 PM - answer]

Here is how the main page would look like (the section is just before the one with the analysis).

After, the sub-pages would be created like the main one, but only with the songs for each year.

Do we keep up like this? :) (Sorry for the messages, just want to be sure I make no mistake ^^")

Tokina8937 21:42, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

3d Models!
Just a question before i do anything,are the pd models the official cryptonlids models,and same for the vsinger models for the chinese vocaloids!And for the mammama gumi,and models that have apeared in charamin omp but are said to be unofficial ex:ZOLA PROJECT,Zunko,...

Admin opinion request
Hi! If you wouldn't mind, could you take a minute to weigh in on a discussion about whether or not something breaks a policy? The discussion can be found here. Thanks in advance for the help! Wikikinetic (talk) 20:03, October 6, 2018 (UTC)