Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20180322113157/@comment-34635003-20180409063348

Thanks for the link! I made an account on the new voca forums. Not expecting much, but hopefully the community is a lot less toxic than its former incarnation.

IA Cevio sounds alright. The conqueror demo sounds really nice. I like how she pronounces that bit. I think one of the reasons why she doesn't sound similar to IA JP on Vocaloid is because of the engine itself but also the time that has passed since she last recorded. I don't think Luka V4x sounds similar to Luka V2 either.

@Nebulous

I agree with you there. I also think that in general the Western fandoms need to have less of an opinion on Chinese loids designs and stylistic choices. I remember the general tone towards the intial XingChen design - generally, the western fandom really was up in arms because of her blue hair and quadruple tails. Looks like the Miku design is something a little more sacred. It doesn't matter how many vocaloids get released with water designs as long as in Chinese vocaloids, there is only one. Chinese fandom's population is big enough that they can sustain themselves and keep to themselves. Quadimension/ Beijing Photek doesn't deserved to be grilled for their designs being "unoriginal" a second time after XingChen - Haiyi is alright, but I'm still not wholly convinced she's vocaloid just because the UTAU CVVC reclist ended distribution right after she was announced and Haru.jpg, the one of the biggest Chinese UTAU fandom users is involved in Haiyi's project. She's definitely not utau, but I'm just not sold on the fact she is for Vocaloid. We will see how this plays out.

An unrelated thing that really rustles me is western fandom saying Tianyi had very little sales because they don't see people purchase her. Like, you have no idea how cult status she is in her own country.