User blog comment:OtterJiang/Okay, So, SeeU./@comment-53539-20150107121817/@comment-53539-20150107141015

My connection to English vocaloid is a passion.

Just as with hate I can talk about love too to do with Engoids. So, without warning, my long talk about my love of engloids. >:-D

I'm going to start by clarifying, I don't favour the English language over any other and I am a big promoter of languages to the point where I'd only not recommend a Vocaloid that is (for example) Japanese, is that its best a person learns that vocaloids language to help them. Learning a new language is a wonderful gift as communication breaks down barriers and helps make people understand each other as well as share information. If you learn just 1 language, you can never learn anything more then 1 POV of the world and are limited in number of people you can speak to.

I do however, see weaboos for manga/anime praising Japanese and putting English down and get sad because English has its fair share of merits just like any other language in the world. So the whole damn argument put me off of anime and manga. I was a anime/manga fan up until 2006, from about 1995 (before there was really such a thing) when the first trickles of Japanese animation was flooding into europe.

Basically, when I joined Vocaloid in the V2 era, I was thrown right into the old English Versus Japanese scenario I had just jumped out of a few years before. Yet I was heavily surprised on how one-sided it was int he vocaloid fandom... Even in the anime/manga fandoms I'd never seen such a landslide in favour of Japanese. I saw how easy it was for a Japanese vocaloid to get praise and how hard it was to get a basic conversation about English vocaloids without someone making up some BS about them. Sometimes they were right - most times they were wrong. It basically didn't help there was nothing known hardly about them except the basics like when they were released in some cases.

So come mid-2010... Basically I grew more and more fed up with ranting and whining of VO'ers about noobs, they were turning more and more attention to running them down. Eventually I snapped and pointed out that if you improved wikipedia, which are going to be in the first few hits of any google search, it will help the noob problem. I started by editing the wikipedia page to improve it and move the page forward. Some other folks joined in after the initial overhaul by adding a ton of stuff even I couldn't add so everything worked out fine more or less over time (proof one person cannot do all the work alone nor knows all the solutions).

Even when I came to even edit wikipedia, the page barely even bothered to mention the English vocaloids. When I left a comment on the talk page addressing this after I cleaned the page up, someone pointed out that there is more on the Japanese. My counterpoint was that that doesn't mean you ignore the things to do with English vocaloid, as not including them means there is gaps. By including them, the wikipedia page was able to feel more complete and well rounded, basically the English vocaloid wikipedia page ended up being more fluffed out and "complete".

Often, the most important pieces of information on the vocaloid software came from the English side of vocaloid, which highlighted the issue with completely ignoring the English side of vocaloid. Facts from days pre-Miku, almost always came from English vocaloid promotions and information highlighting. And I have the most interest in the pre-V2 stage especially. I love learning about how this franchise came to be. So by the time 2010 was up... I was more or less calling myself a "engloid fan" because I'd grown attached to them via constant struggles to find scraps of information on them. I basically had a shield in one hand and a pen in the other, as it was.

So the place that developed in my heart from them was built upon this struggle int he V2 era. the only vocal I didn't like was sonika by the end of V2 and while Luka English wasn't my liking since I felt it was a weak vocal, I kinda didn't dislike the vocal. My dislike of Sonika was to do with the over burdening number of flaws with her vocal to the point it was distracting in a song and I cringed everytime I heard them. Owning her didn't help as then I knew what most of them were personally.

Even then... I consider myself a "Vocaloid fan" before being a "Engloid fan" though. Basically, I'll put a general promotion of Vocaloid before anything else. At the same time I'll support the progress of other syns besides vocaloid, hence why CeVIO, cantor, vocalina, Sinsy, etc, now have wikipedia pages and why I set up wikias for those with a strong base for a wikia (Voiceroid and Macne series). these were done for the fans of those series to have a place to edit to. Helps the vocaloid franchise in the long run and strengths our fandom, plus we can buddy up and support them if need be since we have common grounds of interest. See UTAU and vocaloid, despite there being disagreements between fandoms, we still lean on each other at times.

When you consider my list of vocaloids isn't just Engloids despite my big interest in them, it basically means I'm not letting them rule my devolution towards vocaloid itself. This is more important then anything else.

I also don't want any part of vocaloid to fail horribly because that means the software takes a step back. I can't afford to buy every vocal I want, I have 4, yes, but thats all I've not been able to buy another since V3 hit. So in the absence of being able to put money into what I love, I focus on things that hopefully will encourage others to take interest.

I actually don't disprove fanart as a bad thing because of this, despite any impressions it may give, but I am also aware because of my own limits that fan promotion isn't a sign of high sales. Often I see sales records of things and yet when I look the fandom up there is barely anything on DA or youtube. Again this was a problem with English vocaloid. If 1,000 people bought the software, that automatically didn't mean you'd get 1,000 fanarts from 1,000 people, often you got less then 100. Likewise despite getting 60,000 sales Miku got several times the number of fanarts. Fan stuff tends to be complete distanced at times to popularity.

So I kind a have a better grasp of the situation, and this is why I kept going on about it, on the net your not always 100% sure something spoken will get across without problems. I apologize.

Also there is nothing wrong with rooting for the underdog -seriously. Some of the other Engloid fans also started out like this. Others were just trying to love vocaloid but escape the weabo culture that came with Japanese vocaloids so turned to them as a means of freedom. A lot of the problems caused by SeeU's lack of popularity in some areas amount to all the controversy, anti-K-Pop from weaboo fans or serious political fans in Asian cultures. Also, the other issue is, unlike Chinese Spanish, Japanese and English, there isn't a huge fanbase to begin with.

All things like this can hold Vocaloids like SeeU back without including the fan problems. How much they have held her back, if at all? Who knows... But these problems can exist and are beyond anyone's control. Things like the provider acting up, who knew back in 2011 that was going to happen either? :-/