User blog comment:Angel Emfrbl/CFM broken record issue +the issue with other synths/@comment-39901408-20190726091930/@comment-53539-20190726121428

The first Vocal synth itself is actually not a digital one, you should look up the Chipspeech wiki, its really interesting. The first ever vocal synth was manual, its what "Voder" is based on from that software. It worked by mimicking the human throat using rubber tubing I believe. I don't really understand how it works. The next one is IBM 704 and "Daisy Bell", which is why Vocaloid was going to be called "Project Daisy" originally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk

Its pretty easy to see how much more realistic most modern synths are because of this. It doesnt even get tempo timing right. To me, all the arguments between Vocaloid and UTAU fans would amount to is arguing over noise makers.

I grew up with the Atari STEs one, the one Rotten.ST is based on... Honestly... I've never stopped being a fan of that synth, but its completely dated now. Its not what the synth can do, its what you can do with it. And this synth gave me joy because it was pretty bad, I have nothing but happy memories of it failing to pronounce everything.

Miku V2 was a pretty low quality vocal, but its due to the era. Miku was the vocal that broke the mould and proved vocal synths could be successful. So her Low quality status, it purely because there wasn't what there is now. CFM was a an all but unheard of company who imported software from abroad and distributed and while they did stuff of their own, they weren't that big and didn't have resources like they do now. Aside from improving the script from Meiko and Kaito, Miku was made quickly in 2 months with devs practically putting a lot of hours into her but wasn't that different to Meiko and Kaito. It really only failed when the Kagamines came along... so 2 months on 1 vocal meet 2 months on 2 vocals...

Internet co., Ltd were the no. internet company for what CFM did and were basically winning that spot every year. CFM stole the no.1 spot from them just because of Miku. Aye, I know about the uncanny valley effect, Vocaloid relies on it a lot. But Internet took too long as well to produce a good voicebank (Ryuto is the highest quality of V2 for them). Ah softare entered with 3 vocals, but Iroha's better then all 3. Then came VY1 and VY2 and well, their the top of the v2 era picking list in terms of quality.^_^'

The only thing you have to note is it got confusing in V3. Because of triphones, Japanese vocaloids stepped up in quality so all the V2 vocals pale in comparison... Except the two Arsloid extension vocals. But the problem is V3 had a lot of projects and not all worked.

There is plenty of stuff I don't know, but.. after 9 years and having actually lived with one of the older synths at my beckoning so to speak, I do have quite a diverse opinion. To me, see value in Marie Orks not for her casual vocal and talk, but also the two growl vocals. Their just tools.