Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-207.61.101.254-20141007192044/@comment-30602727-20160130021946

@Bebe - We all basically assumed that you didn't have permission based on the way you were revealing this concert of yours. Understanding now that you were probably trying to keep it as a surprise, you need to keep in mind that Neru and Haku are touchy subjects whether at the wiki, VO, and other social medias with fans who are more experienced and well informed. It also did not help that labeling them as "VOCALOIDs" when they weren't gave off the air that you didn't know what they were, thus leading us to believe that you were perhaps a naive fan. We get A LOT of people who claim they're doing something for VOCALOID but were either lying or it becomes a very failed project that leads people to distrust them (like VoxWave and their claim of ALYS becoming the first French VOCALOID but fell through).

There was also this: "What Image are you referring to? Neru and Haku and Miku have been redesigned specifically for our concert's and we also make no money from the charecter's what so ever.". This also implied that you didn't know how copyright or permissions worked.

If you are truly legitimate, then I wish you luck on your project. But you need to understand that Haku and Neru are indeed hot button issues, and doing something big for them seems like a very "new fan" thing to do in this fandom. Derivatives can be a thorn in people's sides because they tend to garner a lot more attention than the VOCALOID they derive from and people don't think that's very fair (For example, people liking AKAITO more than KAITO, when he is literally just a red KAITO). It also does not help that you are responding a bit hotly or unprofessionally, "I'm giving Haku and Neru a chance, don't like it? fine. that's your desicion." It is fine if you want to defend them, but showing frustrations can lead to issues and people to distrust you even more. And this keep this in mind, I don't mean to insult them or personally attack, but using as an example, we have had instances of unprofessionalism before. VoxWave was one. There was also the issue of Syo responding harshly to PFX when the Ruby design issue occurred and nearly jeopardizing what he wanted. If it hadn't been for Misha intervening, then we'd probably not have the design that was intended.

Like I said, if what you're doing is indeed legitimate, you need to stick up for your project, carefully plan your responses and be aware that Neru and Haku will definitely lead to skepticism in the fandom. Trust me, if you tried to post this on VO like the way it's been done on this thread, they're going to shrug you off or even lock the thread if they think it's spam. And please remember that trying to showcase something as a surprise especially when you're a new or unknown group is going to be very, very difficult in this fandom. There has been a LOT of distrust with new projects recently because of said unprofessionalism and/or lies.