Talk:Macne Nana V4/@comment-37896274-20190925032056/@comment-34440083-20191014023448

@Angel Emfrbl But at least they didn't downloaded it illegally so, I have nothing against them buying it.

My issue is that some Kagamine fans take their opinions for facts. I get that some people work better with some voicebanks and that recommendations are heavily based on experience, but they shouldn't assume that everyone is just like them.

Granted, choppy voices are actually good for future base or dubstep because 1.glitch effects and 2.usually, they add a lot of effects on the voice so the choppyness isn't really an issue. However, not every new vocaloid users are gonna make future base or dubstep because those genres aren't as popular as rock or pop. So better recommendations would be less bugs and more versatile voicebanks, so voicebanks made "for everyone" like Yukari or even Miku. I personally tried them as a beginner and they weren't bad, a lot of people do agree with me (but still, trials first).

So, in conclusion, they're not necessarily wrong. Kagamine act1 can be good, but those fans aren't targetting the right people.

When I was refering to "the best voicebank evaaa", I was talking about Rin (in general). A loooooooot of fans said and still say that she's great and supperior to other vocaloid especially Miku. I was young and naive so I believed them. When I tried vocaloid for the 1st time, yes it was illegal download of some vbs including kagamine act2 because they didn't have available trials (but still, this is wrong). I didn't like them and I'm glad I didn't bought them. When Kagamine V4x was released, I listened to their demos and concluded that all the issues in v2 were fixed. Not really :(. Rin v4x power lack smoothness so if you put 2 syllables/hiragana (?) in one note, it's gonna sound weird because the transitions aren't that good and she has a bug with her "-" thing which is weird because according to a rin user, act2 didn't have this issue (I know it doesn't do it all the times, but still) Also, she loses power if you use her in her lower range. This is very weird because Yukari v3 didn't have that issue and she is a v3. Rin sweet says her "ga"s and her "ka"s too similarly. I don't have any issues with warm yet (that's why she is my favorite! :D).

The weirdest part is that I don't have these issues with Len, but I was told that Rin > Len. I mean in ac1/2 sure, but not really sure about v4x (japanese).