Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20150516191501/@comment-53539-20150605194951

Yeah it is a long history of anti-wikia stuff on VO forums.

I've had issues with it, in the early days someone expressed in their opinion the entire wikia needs scrapping and redone. I used to point out that for 4 months or so I begged the VO'ers to sort the wikia AND the wikipedia pages; they did nothing.

If they do not like the way the wikia is, they had their chance and should no complain.

Some have tried to help, but they usually leave after 1 single argument, or just want the wikia their way without negotiating with other editors. Its not a good combination either way. A few stayed, I'm glad because its nice to have members at both sites who know both communities. A lot of the time it amounts to, those who don't like the wikia do so because of either jealously, being too proud or because it takes attention away from VOas the centre of the overseas fandom.

We're not perfect, but back in 2010 before the wikipedia and wikia were really worked upon; things were MUCH worst. This is the thing I wish they understood.

Also we have a tendacy to contradict the members there... like Mini, who sore blindly that miki was easy to use. I often cite Miki as the typical western ignorance example. The reason is the one thing that nobody ever picks up on in the western fandom as a response to how good miki was is that upon release, miki was actually the most provider-realistic vocal...I saw many continue to cite Gumi as it, up until VY1 was released. Basically, we also have a habbit amongst other things of proving VO'ers wrong... This is not good.

And there was the stuff during the Miku formula over reaction, wherein people accused us of being Miku-centred... Yeah.. We're so Miku-centered she is themost ignored pages of the most popular vocaloids. Excuse me while I roll my eyes... We've done more to promote the other vocaloids then most other sites. >_<

Not to mention.. We do' link to VO at times... I used to get really fed up with the VO-wikia relationship. We really need to be neutral to each other overall. Its okay to have an opinion on the wikia, but some members used to really dig at us every opportunity.... Even when there is NO call.... >_<'