Talk:Anon & kanon/@comment-50.172.244.159-20140405231138/@comment-53539-20140408154209

^Out of the "big 8" vocals, 3 are male, and one of those 3 (Kagamine Len) is bundled with a female vocal who is more used then he is.

If Mew and Tone were male, it would be argued they would have faired even worst overall. However, there isn't much to really comment on because its a "what if" situation. But the girls DO dominate the Vocaloid rankings more then the males, and all the top vocals of each studio have turned out to be female, even when a male is there for sale. The few males that are succeeding, as exceptions upon exceptions...

Fortunately, this isn't necessary true when venturing over into other languages, Oliver is the first Engloid to win a lot of hearts and he is male.

Mew was the least attractive of the early V3 vocals, being more difficult to work with and competing with the new Megpoid V3 package. No big producers picked her up either. logic implies something else had to fail in the progress. This is just what Mew ended up as. Plus, the fandom got sold on the wrong reason to get into Vocaloid, so the likelys of VY1, VY2, Mew and Project Zola, all very professionally aimed vocals, is Vocaloids greatest balancing act right now. :-/

Tone Rion was competing with fellow new comer Aoki Lapis for the hearts of producers, with Lapis clearly being the winner out of that particular battle. On top of that, Tone Rion was a vocal Vocaloid already had - only Vocaloid already had better vocals (e.g. Miku). She also would have been off putting as she was clearly aimed at the Otaku fandom, instead of the professional, which would have made it a awkward purchase. Basically, she was Otaku bait... And Otaku don't always go nuts over something CLEARLY built for them, because Otaku is not something you want to necessary be seen as in Japan as its often used to degrade someone (which is ironic when you see western anime fans claiming they ARE Otaku). Basically, Tone Rion was a release that just tried too hard and simply ended up missing the mark...

Ironically, I tend to think of Mew and Tone Rion as the opposite ends of the spectrum, with both representing the more extreme reasons a Vocaloid can "fail" to met expectations. Still, this does not mean they are complete failures, as both had SE versions. However, tone Rion didn't get a NEO version, which means basically she has overall faired worst then Mew. :-/