Talk:Utatane Piko (VOCALOID2)/@comment-71.218.228.194-20190318164059/@comment-53539-20190318224703

Mid and High quality.

The HQ of Japanese V2 were; Luka (lowest of the highest), the Appends, the VYs and Iroha.

All had the easiest to repair tones for and were smooth on their vowels, with Luka being the least and the VYs generally being the overall best.

Its a little hard to tell all of the LQ range but generally; the Kagamines Act1 (lowest of the LQ) and Act were LQ overall, Miku original, Gackpoid, Megpoid and a few others but most others fall into the MQ range. The issue with V2 was as it progressed, the engines voicebanks got better. A lot of it had purely to do with experience, some technology improvements, more money to invest back (especially for CFM themselves as their company grew overnight thanks to Miku).

However, as a rule of the thumb all Japanese V3's are better by default as they have triphones whereas V2's did not (they only had diaphones). In comparison to V3, all V2s are LQ, so this is usually why we say "get a V3". V3's still at the moment supported on V4 and V5, whereas V2 can work on V3 and V4 engines, but not V5 and even then their unsupported. Meaning no technical support is on offer and as time progresses their going to eventually become unusable if a OS update happens.

Yohioloid, Zola Project, Fukase, VY2 or Arsloid are all vocals that are masculine and fall into the "young male" category that can act as replacements with Yohioloid, Yuu and Fukase being pretty much the closet to Piko. And all of these have V3 or better vocals and are better then Piko.

We're not expecting a Piko update, though its not impossible, because Piko's first year was terrible and that tends to have the biggest impact on products. He barely got any attention, part because of the Kagamines and VY2, part because of Sony peeving off Producers, and part ecause he was one of the last few releases for V2. We knew V3 was on its way almost soon after VY2's initial release. Piko wasn't well loved anyway at the time and VO forums generally forgot he existed. Furthermore, don't forget as a Japanese vocaloid, in the V2 days they honestly expected no foreigners to want to buy vocaloids made for Japanese, and we honestly weren't interested anyway, having about as much interest as the Japanese had "very little" in other words. His avatar was consider "boring" or "ugly" for example and well... 6 Kagamine voicebanks, 3 for Len.... Versus Piko's 1. And the Piko vocaloid, was no where near as good as the singer, they were expecting a voice very easily morphed into female or something. But... It was just a bit weak overall. :-/