Talk:Yowane Haku/@comment-1050617-20180514003430/@comment-53539-20180514114812

^That's the issue raised with Teto going vocaloid... That and supposedly Teto being an artificially manipulated vocal means she won't sound the same in Vocaloid?

To me the whole issue is these are examples of fans asking something to happen for the sake of it happening, which happens a lot. Not all fans understand how businesses work and how money needs to be made to make more of something. It can lead to fans asking for something which a business corp knows won't turn a buck. So the business doesn't produce what a fan wants and instead focuses on other more profitable ventures.

The biggest issue with making something the fans wanted is you can have the issue of meeting expectations, or there actually not being a market for it. How many "fans" are there in a "fandom" after all?

If I was to example One Piece versus Flint the Time Detective, then One Piece has several million and Flint is barely remembered, resulting in it being lucky if one fan meets a second. Yet both are Japanese Shonen anime, though one ran for only 1 season and was a one off thing and One Piece has been going for a decade and a half, the comparison would still stand if I, as a Flint fan, turned around and demanded a new series. ITs not happening because the owners of the Flint manga at gone. However, it also would be no different if I, as a One Piece fan, asked for a life sized model of Shanks to be made so I can buy it. The price and size of the character (he isn't short) would mean I'm unlikely to have my demands met, plus I'm a single fan and I've not groups together with others to express a greater demand. Even so, Shanks is a minor character at best and there are fans who may want Luffy, Zoro, Robin, etc first as their the main characters.

So you can ask for Neru or Haku, or even Teto, but there are a lot of things that can prevent them getting Vocaloid voicebanks. Sure, like everything else Vocaloid, I myself wouldn't be against it, the more vocals the merrier (I'm a selfish fan). But I don't think its practical to just keep asking. If they get them, they get them.

I will note the Japanese fandom may be a drive against the decline of merch, as the Japanese fandom is slowly moving on from OCs. With so many new vocaloids and different groups, the influence of a few producers back in 2007-9 is not as it was. I've seen less interest myself express over the last 8 years from Japan into them, just as item wars are almost 0% occurring now in the fandom. I don't think many referenced to Miku and Leeks are being made as they once were, CFM rarely even has going the go ahead for a poster or model featuring them. Basically... The Vocaloid scene in Japan seems to have matured or "grown up", whereas overseas fans being behind the times are still childish in comparison. I don't know how else to put it. Times have changed and moved on? I know there is the joke "your still into Vocaloid?" being spoken in Japan by ignorant people who want to mock someone for following "yesterdays fashion". But this occurs overseas too... I experienced it in the Beyblade fandom in the early 2000s when Yugioh came around and Prince of Tennis.