Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-72.66.32.27-20141028214010/@comment-53539-20141129201953

It wouldn't be possible for a overlap of Japanese English. One of the reasons is some phonetics are shared by the two languages, but are not spoken the same way.

I'd rather the companies make a DB based on the language, rather then do extra phonetics. Simply because its not as reliable to make HQ results, but people like that group at VO think that they are better then they are. Remember "Japanese vocaloids do better English then English Vocaloids"? And how Maika "does the best English of them all" are BS claims from that group. Plus unless you know the phonemes exist within the bank your never going to use them, and unless you know "how" you can't.

Its like the classic case of people who buy Japanese Vocaloids and don't understand Japanese... They either end up with gibberish, making LQ English, or stick with badly constructed slap in VSQ/VSQX songs.

And any rate, I wish the companies would focus on improving languages first. Its okay to try another language is you have a few vocals under the belt, but if you have one vocal you shouldn't do it. If the vocal sells well, you can revise the vocal and add more, at least it means you have a market. This is one of the many problems with SeeU.

@Serza, Sonika's was always a case of stating the obvious that you can edit vocals to make new languages. I think at the time of Sonika's release, Zero-G were trying to appeal to a wider audience so went with trying to sell the merits of English vocals over Japanese vocals. And yeah, you can make English do more languages then Japanese, but only due to the larger array of phonetic data in their voicebanks to choose from.

They were kinda competing with Luka who had both English and Japanese. To date, its still easier to make a Engloid sing Japanese then it is the other way around and naturally only a few sounds are absent in any way from English vocals. The most major problem is just the sounds are not spoken correct by English vocals being made to sing Japanese.

Either way Sonika was a disaster, yet she was the most popular of Zero-G's vocals.

As for English itself, Sonika actually surprises me, she is capable of saying some words that Prima or Big Al and Tonio struggle with. Its just you strain your ears to hear he say it. I'm surprised because her DB is smaller then theirs a little. :-/