User blog comment:Angel Emfrbl/My apologises/@comment-3076833-20141130155554/@comment-53539-20141202111046

@Serza, there are two major problems with the project;

First problem is Planty-P himself.

This is nothing he can do, but due to his past, there are some people like me who don't 100% trust him anymore and its not something I'm completely alone on. This is a fault by Planty-P himself, and not something anyone can shy away from him. Having dealt directly with CNSE and Ricardo, the two most notorious fans we've ever come across, I trust him far more then Ricardo to be honest about his Pocaloid use and CNSE ability to understand legal things the first time you say them.

I wasn't aiming to disrespect him entirely, just point out that the trouble with the project is that Planty maybe was the wrong person to head it because of his rep. As I said, "if any other person had headed the prokect..." and that was to highlight a problem with Planty-P being the one behind it. This is something he cannot help that not everyone will either forget the things he has done or trust him. What he should have done is perhaps not even gone this alone and recruited the support of people the fans did trust so the entire thing doesn't rely on everyone supporting him alone. He went into the project, however, off the bat alone leaving some like myself to question as what was the reason for heading a project out of the blue like this, a project that demands trust that a voice would be delivered at the end of it. This didn't feel 100% "safe".

the other option Planty-P could have done was to raise his reputation to overcome this by promoting other projects that did come to fruit before he went into a project with Jewels level of results at the end. I feel sheepish talking about this here because I should really be highlighting this to him himself and not to others in front of him... And even then how does one explain what issues without offending? Its easier to say you have an issue with someone else but not easy to explain it without offending someone else if its negative. So the situation is also this... Bunai said I shuld have contacted Platny-P and it was wrong not to, but at the same time even now I have NO IDEA how to explain problem 1. with the Jewel project without feeling like I'm going to offend him. :-/

The second problems are, as I said, no matter what anyone whats a project to be, the fans won't take it that way necessary. There are vocaloid fans who don't like UTAU or are too proud to admit its worth and there are UTAU fans who believe UTAU is better then Vocaloid or something else along those lines. As I explained to someone on DA, not every Vocaloid fan is a UTAU fan and not every UTAU fan is a Vocaloid fan. Yeah they more or less overlap just as the MMD fandom does but there are some that side with one software or another. So Jewel will stubbornly be shunned no matter what by some Vocaloid fans, so this has nothing to do with Planty-P heading the project.

This leads also to he 3rd problem. Say you've got someone who has a UTAU planned but can't necessary "sell it" (meaning get it popular or accepted by the people who use UTAU). In the situation of Jewel being a tribute to Ring and Lui, this is where the problem comes into play, that anyone can say "Its a tribute" and fans will either hop on or support a project that was otherwise going to get no where. This would have impacted Jewel even if it was headed by someone other then Planty-P as well.

So the problem is that you have three major issues with Jewel's project. 1; the person heading it has a problem past that prevents some getting behind him, 2: fans spoil things and 3: its too easy to say somethings a tribute and get away with making a otherwise obscure project noticed.

As I said, I apologize for being rude, but I was really annoyed about. Usually outside of the Vocaloid domains the only Vocaloids I hear of are Miku and the other Big 8, you just don't hear about random things like Jewel and it caught me off guard. I had to basically explain to the person in private via messaging that Jewel was nothing to do with Ring and Lui themselves and explain what UTAU was, etc, etc.

Considering I've dealt with all sorts of things and had to explain away so much about Vocaloid since 2010... Whenever a new engine comes out the stress levels always go up. Sometimes the stress isn't caused by newbies either, as the veterans fans cough up all the problems related to bias more then the newbies do and at least the newbies tend to be focused on ignorance. We've had one mistake with Yuki and that was my fault. So I've been really stressed out about getting that wrong.

Either way I've actually had less opinions of some other fans because of the rep. Yeah Jewels' a good thing, its respectable, I just have issues and concerns with it. In comparison to SBS and SeeU, I don't trust the company due to its incompetence at its handling of SeeU, but the one thing they could have done to repair it they never released.

With Alys, I said when it was at forum levels there was a ton of unprofessional-ism going on by the French fans, but I built a little hope up that maybe they had got their act together and were actually doing this. The problem was over time, even before the release... I started having doubts again on them. They didn't have the money to support it, they had the entire project together (name, design, singer) but hadn't been given the "go" word from Yamaha and when it came along they failed to make Alys a vocaloid, I felt the whole situation had been improperly handled. One of the reasons they have trouble with fans not accepting Vocaloid and CeVIO issue now is, they gave fans far, far too much... They gave Alys a name, they gave her a image and a voice... When it finally came to break the news of Alys' failure they had at that point sold too much to fans. This was also part of the problem with Ring and Lui... Ring got a name, a image and a voice. And why some projects in Vocalodi that did succeed like Aikokoroid (I forgot how to spell it after the "A") left some disappointed at "whats the point of a private Vocaloid"?

Sorry for the long explanation, but I had a few things to get off my chest, they all sort of tie together one way or another.

@Dude, I wasn't bothered by the reactions from people as I knew that I'd be hated because I was letting emotions control me. The only thing that shocked me was a few responses where at a "subdue the opinion" level, which is something I've only seen on youtube up until now related to Vocaloid. Highlighting problems with things is a bad habit of mine that comes from questioning every detail of something or being highly critical of things, letting emotions be my guide my biggest fault, when those two things come together, I do stupid things.