Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-35301431-20170314133630/@comment-53539-20171202205106

@CClyclone, its not just Ah Software who faces that issue with males, Gackpoid is in the same boat. As I said before most of the fandom from Japan relies on Kaito or Len for the most part, Len because he is sold with Rin and Kaito because he is seen as a go-between vocal. The girls aren't just popular, they tend to do double well then they would have done if they were a male and all studios except CFM are experiencing the same situation in Japan. Its why their just not rushing to create male vocals.

All I will say on Songman, he is an Engloid. Engloids have about the same reaction if they are male or female so there isn't much difference between them.

There was a note I V2 that vocaloid struggles with lower ranged vocals, so they tend not to sound right. And males tend to be within that range of concern.

To me, if V5is on its way their holding back Uni Appends/English for a re-release next year.

@Ihavenoideawhatsoever, your right on the vocals front. Rana V4 is V3 with GWL. And despite what people tried to make a reality, Tone Rion V4 is identical to her V3 except GWL and XSY. Though the way vocals are recorded changed, the Vocaloid vocals are more or less the same in V3 and they are in V4. The real change was to Vocaloid itself enough.

I too find the updates a joke though... I understand why V2's were updated to V4 in Ah softwares case as V2 was being retired this generation. Gumi gets 5 new vocals, but nothing about her changes. Luka gets the messiest update we've ever seen and the most disappointing, while the Kagamines are shoved out to get to Miku. Miku gets an update that aside from slightly improve 2 vocals and adding EVEC, could have done without.

And while I approve of langauges being added to vocaloids, CFM's effors are increasingly becoming a joke. I tired of bare minimum effort releases made just so the company can say "here is X language". The vocals are almost useless compared to the original.

Sachiko did pretty well. She was a professional vocal so her market was small, but did as one could expect from Japans Prima.

Arsloid wasn't so much of a mess as he was a rushed product... I think they wanted him out the door before the hype on him died due to the fear of him being a male vocaloid = failure. To me, bright and soft were added to create the idea of a bonus existing that wasn't really as they didn't have time to make these vocals proper.

I think the biggest trap Korean vocaloids can do is to go the route of Chinese vocaloids and presume since in Asia females sell better, not produce a male for ages.