Talk:VY2/@comment-31499688-20180712045458/@comment-53539-20180721132046

^Sadly Vocaloid doesn't care about our favourite Vocaloids and even Miku is subjected to harsh realities by Yamaha at times. This is why Yamaha happily let go of V1 and V2 and all their vocals and now we're in the V5 era, the V3 vocals likely have a slow ticking doomsday clock on them. I don't think they may be retired so soon due to the lack of differences in V3 and V5 vocals to a point, but... Sooner or later supporting them will likely end. I have a funny idea V6 will see the end of the V3's rather then V5, but I still would not be surprised if they went halfway through this generation, in short in about 2020.

As new technology and techniques some in, old records slowly become out dated. So its only a matter of time for every voicebank ever recorded until they just get too out of date to compete with modern vocals. The VYs have the advantage of being good at the time of recording so their lifespan can be longer then other vocals... But... I don't think they'll be with us forever at this point and its "any version now" which will see the end of their usage.

I do agree that the VYs have "aged well" all due respects because some of the older vocals have not. Megpoid being an example, though Gumi has been trotted out every generation her vocals are rather dated compared to most modern vocals. Its the same for Miku though Miku has had some changes in V4 and a couple of voicebanks got improved to make their vocal ranges larger. Many of the post V3 vocals out do the V2 era vocals and you only have to look at the tempo and key ranges to see this. This, however, results in vocals like Rana or Lumi standing out like a sore thumb because their vocals which are V2-ranged vocal in V4 due to either a limited vocal range, tempo or both. When you compare them to the likes of Ia, Nana, Una, etc, it becomes all too notable that that struggle to keep up in capabilities.

Yeah though, nobody wants their favourite Vocaloid retired but at this point I'm 8 vocaloids down. The 3 Engloids of V1 and the five of V2 are gone. Among them are my favourites Tonio and Big Al. PowerFX is gone now so Big Al is never going to be updated for sure. I get a bit annoyed at the Piko protestors who want Piko to get an update, because its not a big deal to loose 1 Japanese vocal when you have 8 sitting there in English lost forever. Its also hypocrisy to meto protest over the loss of 1 vocal thats been long replaced when there are no replacements for Tonio, Big Al or Prima at this point, so thats 3 unique vocals we don't have anymore.