Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28951715-20171113164437/@comment-33606658-20171113223343

Angel Emfrbl wrote:

Dupinema wrote: Interesting idea. I definetly think it would help a  lot with vocaloids like Miku or Luka that are very popular and have a bunch of voicebanks.

@Ihavenoideawhatsoever I don't think that would be the best idea. The problem is that those songs force a vocaloid to sing in a way it wasn't meant to. For example, it makes sense for Miku Chinese to have its category-she has a chinese voicebank with sounds that are necessary for mandarin chinese. But if you make Yukari sing in english...that isn't realy english. You are forcing the phonemes(in this case japanese) to mimic a language. It's an imiation at best.I'm also worried that it might confuse people and that they'll think that for example Yuki has an english voicebank or something. These songs need their own category and not be lumped together with the ones made with voicebanks for said language.

Languages are some of our most problematic things for us to deal when it comes to facts and the fandom doesn't help us by spreading some rumours, lies and myths about them. I'd like us not to contribute to the issues either. I'm reminded people think Maika has Godly language handling when she has just some extra sounds and is still Spanish... Controversy Concerns has a lot of the problems highlighted, and we cannot forget nor contribute to the problems the fandom has created for itself. =_=

Also, think of the languages Vocaloid has yet to cover like German, French, etc. Today I saw Alys getting called a Vocaloid once against on DA...

Edit: Its 2017, but honestly... Some problems are as regularly spoken as the day they were spoke years ago. ITs okay for a vocal to sing in other languages, but the Phonetics are still for the language their built in. On our side, we're always bound to the cold facts... The way we treat Vocaloid is not the same as places like Vocaloid OTaku.

Sure we're fans just the same...:-?

But...

We're bound to facts and technical stuff so are stuck with no flexibility at all. We can't say Japanese Miku voicebanks do English as well as her English, and can never do that and furthermore... Nowhere is the fandom more critical then when it talks about the wikia... We get criticism for "mistakes" even when we're right... yeah,you're right...I know my comment sounds like I'm against vocaloids singing in languaes they're not meant for. I'm not, I just don't want to spread misinformation.(I remember once when I just became a vocaloid fan I saw a cover someone made with Miku and it was in spanish and I seriously thought she had a spanish voicebank >.>) But yeah, separating these songs would be the best. It could be something like: 'Songs sung in langages the vocaloid was not meant for' Just shorten it or something.