Board Thread:Poll Archive/@comment-30602727-20150315184131/@comment-53539-20150324175206

Misteryeevee wrote: What's actually kind of irking people is that the Japanese side praises *excuse me* the shit out of Luka V4X when her Japanese is mediocre or mid or low quality. They only care and praise her because she's Luka, she was going to sell from the start. :| You can praise Miku V3, you can praise her English, Japan... but how can you praise a so-so or bad quality Luka Japanese? No idea if this will end up a double post...

If you compare Luka V4x to Luka V2, then its a HQ product, so for Luka fans its a world of improvement, especially if Luka is your only Vocaloid experience. There are also producers who don't venture outside of CFM, so their comparisons is with other CFM. They may not compare Luka to VY1v4 or Yukari because they don't own them.

CFM has most of the market, one way or another.

This is the other issue here at play. For some producers here in the west who have other engloids or J-loids, they will be able to say something is not right... Especially about the English side, which is going to be something a native will find faults to death on (honestly, since the track record since 2008 with English from CFM isn't great, what does everyone expect at this point exactly?).

I'm not running CFMdown here, I'm just saying the problem is the situation CFM is in relationship to every other company. Many producers, for example, only own Miku in Japan. How much of a comparison is Miku to any other Vocaloid? So this is a big problem with the reason why many Japanese *may* be praising a product that may not be that good. How do they know? They only know what they know. The typical producer isn't that rich, can afford a limited amount of vocaloids and won't buy anything they don't know or isn't good rep. Plus CFM can overwhelm any company when pushed just by marketing alone at this point.

Its nothing against CFM, its just how things are. Does Nintendo make "good games"? Yes, but how many BAD games do they toss out as well? A LOT. Yet people still buy them, because Mario is a icon of gaming and if Mario is on the box its not only getting the fans of Mario but it acts as a mini-seal of quality. Because Nintendo wouldn't put a game with Mario's face on it thats bad would they? SEGA + sonic, yes... To the point now everyone goes into a Sonic game not expecting much.

I'm afraid consumers are suckers...I'd like to say I'm better, but I've bought ideas myself that were bad. A lot of the population does it.

At the end of the day, we knew Luka would be popular, that is the only thing we knew. We knew nothing else except Lukawas on the box, and has fans waiting about 5 years for a update, it MUST have been a good wait right? And compared to the V2, it was... :-/

Gosh whatever I say feels a little negative, when I'm not trying to do that. I'm saying it as it is. About all you can say was, luka isn't as popular as Miku so didn't have the scale of overhype, she still had a lot of hype though either way. I just hope people don't get carried away here with all this.