Talk:VOCALOID5/@comment-45.64.83.114-20180903072343/@comment-53539-20180903093539

Your not alone, a lot of producers have been grumbling it even in Japan, I don't own it but between the Japan and English fandoms it can't be ignored whats going on.

The trouble is we have in terms of options basically 3 main vocal synths at play; In addition they removed several features.
 * Synth V; currently has them excited because for a free vocal synth its limited, but not bad when it comes to thing like realism. I will note myself after using it, its a little over hyped, but it beats UTAU's performance in vocals any day.
 * CeVIO; main attraction is talk and singing, otherwise its less realistic then any Vocaloid/Voiceroid combo, but is still cheaper then Vocaloid or Voiceroid. So it offers a bit of both worlds
 * Vocaloid5; the most realistic of the 3 and most modern vocal synth thats quite a beast. But what good is a beast whose strength can never be utilised because its stick. The amount of rumbling noise at how disappointing it can be is somewhat troublesome and has me worried.

Basically the situation is not good, you pay a lot of money for Vocaloid and this is the first time Vocaloid has had such amount of trouble. The worst we've had is when they released the updated Prima engine with her, but did not know there was going to be a conflict between her version and older ones. They fixed it, but for a time you had to install Vocaloids in their release order. The devs didn't account for older versions to be installed after newer, nor Japanese producers to use English vocals or English vocals to use Japanese, nor for anyone to own more then 1 Vocaloid. So any of those that involved Prima caused issues.