User talk:Bunai Di

K4KING's Question
I need you opinion on this matter: I've been editing song pages and making them uniform like, now I am faced with a decision, the idea came from Adept, and I would like to ask your opinion on this: There are two kinds of Song pages, The Series Song page, e.g. Story of Evil Seven Deadly Sins etc. Then there's the normal song page e.g. Kokoro, Miku Miku Ni Shite Ageru. I want to seperate them, since the song page differs a lot:

1. Each song series has a very indept information about the song, including speculations and historical events that took place that made it today. Not to mention it's a living fanwork on it's own. 2. The Normal Song pages can't totally match up to the song series, with the song pages solely concentrating on the Song's meaning, lyrics and other PVs, covers etc. 3. The Song Series has speculation points and linking to other songs that may or may not be connected through speculation and official use. Normal Song pages concentrate on One Song.

Bottomline: I like to create a New Category myself called "Vocaloid Song Series". All Song series will be moved there, and I would like your opinion on this, is this a wise move or more clutter.

I also, would like to ask about this format Adept Suggested to me:

Title for the derivative

 * Broadcast: NND / YT
 * Author(s): Author1 (role1); Author2 (role2)
 * Category: Cover or Remix; alternate PV (hand-drawn; animated; CGI); Arrangement or Parody
 * Vocaloid/Utau: (If is necessary)
 * Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary. Here goes a small description or summary.

This format will be used for alternative PVs, arrangements etc section below the song lyrics. The format he made is wonderful. I could use to implement that, but I remember the Image guidelines, since there are a lot of PVs in other song pages than most. That would mean over cluttering the wikia with images. I said this reason to Adept, but I failed to ask your opinion on this.

Is this a wise format? Or it isn't. I'm kinda doing this, as a special gift, for Miku's Birthday, which is today. Thank you for reading this. K4KING 01:53, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

The thing is, When i read the Guidelines, it says No fanarts. The Format is essentially, pure fanart. If I'm going to use Adepts, format it will work, but the picture will be fanart. Pretty soon, if I add more song pages, there will be an abundant, 1 use only image that will pertain to that sort of image. It will eventually clutter the Site with a lot of pictures that might get a bit messy. And there are over 1400 photos already. Some photos, are not even used at all. If there are a lot of pictures, it will look like we are archiving them. :/ Not unless you delete photos that do not link to other pages.

And yeah, when I separate the song page and series page the two will be different from each other. That was my intention. Song Series are their own universes. Solo Songs, are Song central. The Only people who are currently Involved are You, Me Esperancia and Adept.Esperancia leaves the song pages to me, so I assume she will be busy with Producer pages. Adept is collaborating with me and you well, your the deciding factor in my decisions. K4KING 03:13, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I dunno who to turn too, but here goes.


 * Lately while going around the site minding my own business, My Antivirus keeps getting intrusion attacks whenever I visit this website, usually the front page. For some reason, The attacks only occurs here. Not anywhere else. :/ At first, I shrugged it off, but it kinda continued for days now, and now, whenever I visit the mainpage of the site, I get an intrusion attack, and I tried comparing it to other websites, and nada. Only this one. The Intrusion was Blackhole ToolKit. I dunno of you are the expert on this matter, but do you know someone who could check the site? Just to be sure? I'm a bit concerned. :/ Did a user before threw a fit of rage and left a malicious code in it?K4KING 00:52, September 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * You have other attacks too? hrmm... My antivirus stopped the notifications, but I dunno if that was still fixed or not. I contacted Wikia and they said they'll send people to look at it. I dunno if they did send it. But I assume there are still attacks. The attacks I've been getting are blackhole toolkit. If it's not from the site.....could it be from one of the links? K4KING 15:45, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Double Pages
Hello, I found out that there are 2 pages with the same producer. This and this can you please delete the Zashikiusagi-P page?

Thank you. :) Unknown.System 06:03, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Hello again, I found another double page. Hikarisyuyo and Hikari Shuuyou. Can you please delete Hikarisyuyo ?

Thank you~ Unknown.System 15:02, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Um Bunai, can you please delete the of the Night Aria.JPG image I accidently upload. I forgot to rename it again. Thank you~ :) YumiNakamine


 * It seems you are using the image.
 * If you are talking about the Beethoven looking character? -- Bunai82 (talk) 07:39, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup. I forgot to add Leon's name. YumiNakamine


 * There's another page that needs to be deleted. Can you please delete Eshijanai-KEI ? I already updated Hayashikei (KEI) with the notes in Eshijanai. Unknown.System 04:26, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

There's another double pages: BosuHasirazuIsoideAruitekiteBokurawoTaskete-P and Bosukete-P. Can you please delete Bosukete-P's page? Unknown.System 01:07, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

And another: Capmira-P and Captain Mirai. Can you please delete Capmira-P 's page? Thank you. >< Unknown.System 01:12, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

More, sorry to bother: Jōnetsu-P and Jounetsu-P. Can you please delete Jōnetsu-P? Thank you. Unknown.System 12:28, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

The proposed template?
Bunai-saaan I haven't got any word from you about the template ;w; K4KING-san is so high-spirited right now, making me want to help him by finishing my side of work XD

And I... forgot to log in >///< Esperancia 06:22, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fanmades
Kya Bunai-san I'm so sorry. I just thought of cleaning the "Fanmade Vocaloids" template by categorizing the known voice source by their existing templates. I made some of the fanmade vocaloids into 2 templates because of the alternate voice source presented in the article, not the design. But I guess we're putting them in their main voice source template, huh? Gomen :s

Oh, and for Nemui Taidane, the article says she's based on Gumi (voice source) and Miku (design)... Esperancia 01:38, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. So the "Fanmade Vocaloids based from..." categories are based on the designs? Not the voice sources? I thought it'd be the voice since it'll be more easily sorted and categorized... :S Esperancia 01:42, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

"Derivative" is what the Japanese would use I guess thats it. One-Winged Hawk 19:58, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

V1 into V2
V1 voicebanks only work with V1. V2 will work with V3 but not V1. Yamaha confirmed their leaving V1 behind now. One-Winged Hawk 07:40, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know either, its best to leave it.

BTW, is it nessecary to have "hair colour, eye colour"?

If theres a picture i feels like a dumming down moment, like they can't look at the picture and judge for themselves. One-Winged Hawk 17:52, September 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Weeell might I point out that the physical image is subject to change. Thats why we don't bother with such details at the One Piece wikia, it feels like your really dumbing it down for the audience.  Plus sometimes we don't know.  I also object over giving out such details for Vocaloids like Leon, Lola, Vy1 and VY2, even if your referring to the most common image.  Mostly because this feels like your telling the reader not to bother coming up with their own design.  I amdit we have pictures up, yeah, but their examples of the most common depictions, even then I'm reluctant on them.  My view is the least amount of information on physical description you put up for such Vocaloids, the better.  :-/ One-Winged Hawk 18:22, September 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also consider Sonika's trivia says her hair has the ability to change colour and you have "green" in the information box... The box itself doesn't have room for that much information there and if you do expand on it, its going to get big beyond silly preportations. I'm sorry, its just from my experience of other wikias which I've worked on, I know the pitfalls of infoboxes. They should be a "quick reference" only at the most.  This is how wikipedia treats them as and how wikias are suppose to also, but I do know most wikias what to treat them as more then that because the fanbase always wants to add that little bit more information to them then they need.  One-Winged Hawk 18:26, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Whitelist
I want to now if is possible add to the whitelist the images from:
 * http://i.ytimg.com/ (Youtube thumbnail server)
 * http://tn-skr1.smilevideo.jp/ (Nicovodeo thumbnail server)

I need them for the Template:Song Derivative. I want to see if I can load the thumbnails directly to from their servers like in this template, the idea is avoid flood this wiki with thumbnails >.> Adept-eX 20:07, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Bunai-san, I'm planning on making external image whitelist in Vocaloid lyrics wiki, but does that mean I have to have MediaWiki software installed? (I'm sorry if this question seems silly, I've been around wiki just since July 2011 >,<) Esperancia 00:56, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, the MediaWiki is already default for all wikis, you just need to add codes to them, if you want. Just copy Vocaloid Wikis whitelist -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:30, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

The title Song:
I was actually wondering, why do the English songs have the word Song: while the Japanese songs don't? It's seriously annoying to tell the truth. Anyway, if you're kind, can you rename Song:Aisenma and Song:Interval Of Clouds without the Song:?

Thank you  BackUp:YumiNakamine 02:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)BackUp:YumiNakamineBackUp:YumiNakamine 02:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

In Jan 2012..
I think I'll call everyone together and discuss the staff stuff, like any elections and place filling. We're still quite small don't need anymore bearucrats, but we might need another admins and I've got names I'd like to make rollbackers. But I will discuss this then, right now Vocaloid 3 is due out and its not worth altering our staff members. when vocaloid 3 comes out we'll likely get an increased flow of readers and so forth and a lot of new edits to make. I don't want to discuss that right now. We won't know until aftr the Vocaloid 3 release and there is no rush...

But I have about 3 or 4 canidates for consideration right now. I'm not gonna say who they are until 1st of Jan though, when I call the discussion.

I was hoping to retire the notable songs pages, but its not until someone else stepped in with ideas their being worked upon. *le sigh* I feel so useless, like as a beaucrat I'm not needed... Haha! I did warn one of the other editors, that from Jan onwards all notable songs pags will be slowly retired. I think they are not needed anymore, even if we end up with pages for Beatles songs like "Let it be" I think its for the better. I've said it a lot this year; there just no defination on "notable" at this point. The notable pages were also set up with the 2008 period in mind, so in 2012 they no longer work so well... Having them casues problems. But "Hall of Fame" my previous attempt wasn't the direction I realised that now.

I'm making some direction plans for the wikia for Jan 1st, you'll hear more about them on Jan 1st. Those are the two most notable. I admit until Vocaloid 3 is here *some* of the plans are subject to change hence why I'm not saying what they are. Plus I'm watching what the egar editors do (because I'm in awe of the direction due to my previous failures).

I don't know, I've been down lately to to the fandumb part of the fandom. One-Winged Hawk 17:29, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Request
There are two pages of the same content. Namely, these two:


 * http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Project_Mirai
 * http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Hatsune_Miku:_Project_Mirai

I made Project Mirai and the other one is a mere trifle. Could you please delete or merge it to mine? I got no power over this. Thank you K4KING 15:47, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for doing it. :)

Looking at the page makes me at ease, not to mention, I'll be handling that particular page myself. Nothing new came out after the 3DS conference, but the game is promising.

But that's not why I'm here again- or was it? I dunno. Anyway, while riding my plane back to Japan, it hit me, Could I make a page detailing how to follow vocaloid music artists or what not?

Let me explain: Lately due to the popularity of vocaloid in the west, most are oblivious to the artists who made them. So I would like to make a beginner guide in the form of either a blog or a page on the tutorials to help people. It may be pointless, but then again, looking at how dumb most fans are now and are slowly catching up, I've been fed up with common mistakes. What do you think? K4KING 18:01, September 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably best to start it as a blog first to see how it works and what the appeal would be. It seems the producer pages cover half of this though. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:07, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * You have a point there. Oh, and most people DON'T Know who the producer is, which makes it quite certain I'm going yo make use of many sites. :P I'll work on it by tomorrow. Assuming The storm here is gone.K4KING 14:06, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * AND It's done! Here it is K4KING 14:06, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

figurines
I think I know what I'm gonna do with the figurines now, I've been thinking about them. I'll put up a demo page tomorrow. I'd be thrilled to have an opinion on it. I'm catching up with the figurines now, previously I was waaaay behind and just gave up. I guess I needed to just find a decent source of information.

I'll leave the galleries alone for now on the character pages. I'll be transferring them back off them when I've finished playing around tomorrow. The informations staying on the pages, the images are not. I just needed to do that while I thought of a idea for them... The ideas now come today. One-Winged Hawk 21:25, September 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh the info-less bit is a temporay measure, I'm trying to sort out the figurines and place them where they should be. When you get no other input from other Editors, you guess what your doing, so I didn't fluff out the articles until I got them where I wanted, thats all. I know what I'm doing, don't worry. Somewhere along the line I'll get this sorted.  It will likely take me all weekend.


 * It was the same with the nav template, again I put it there temp. while I sorted things out. One-Winged Hawk 17:04, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I will mention that the only thing I haven't sort is whats going to be the bit in the middle between the pages and the template to replace the Nav template, I want to retire the main Figurines page or brief it since its very hard to control it. So thats the only thing that needs sorting, is the precise method of putting it all together. Right now, I'm just focused on these models. Some I have very little to go by on sorting them, hence why we have a "misc figurines page"... Or will have when I give it the right name.  Opps. >_< One-Winged Hawk 17:10, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how long I can do this though this evening. About ten mintues ago I went downstairs of my home to get a drink, slipped on a step and nearly pulled my arm out of its socket trying to "save" myself from tumbling. The wall is patterned, I scratched the hand on the other arm and the shoulder on the arm I nearly pulled out of its sockets feels very painful. I'm moving out of this home in two weeks, thats the second time I've slipped, first time I lightly scrapped the skin off the same arm on that pattern on the walls and ended up with a 5 inch series of cuts.

I'm pushing ahead though despite that because that was my own stupid fault. One-Winged Hawk 17:14, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Its the carpet I slipped on, haha! Theres no hope for the hopeless. XD One-Winged Hawk 17:25, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * BTW Bun, I renamed the BRS page so its independant, I'm not keeping that figurines page I think but I kgave it its own page as a temp. measure to give others a chance to sort it. If anyone wants it kept I'll let it stay.  The thing is, BRS's fanbase is usually Vocaloid fans. One-Winged Hawk 17:29, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nah, its just badly fitted, hence why I've slipped on it twice.


 * I could go with the "British Rail" excuse of "wrong type of carpet" I suppose. :-D One-Winged Hawk 17:31, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I move on the 30th or the 1st, I'll delete the page a day or two before then. I'll be without net access again I think for a while.  Hopefully not too long this time as all my landlady is doing is transferring the adresses over. >_<' One-Winged Hawk 17:40, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

I know, trouble is we still have to cover what vocaloidism reports anyway. In many cases recently, I've beaten Vocaloidism to reporting it here, but our news section I haven't time to update. Hence why it hosts a message there right now stating its not being updated. One-Winged Hawk 17:50, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * the Pullip page was not needed I realised that about mid-day today after I created it since we have the parent company behind Pullip there. One-Winged Hawk 17:57, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because I was so busy sorting it I skipped over that idea as a possiblity. Lol. XD


 * I'm finishng off the figurines for the moment, the items are on the pages, tomorrow I transfer information across. One-Winged Hawk 18:06, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I'm transferring information over now to the pages, but nothings set in stone I'm just getting it off the pages for now. Some of the models I found on the Good Smile Company's website were labelled as "Max Factory", which means somewhere along the lines someone got something wrong. I'll go with Good Smile Company knowing their own models though n that one. One-Winged Hawk 14:24, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Lola Trivia
Nya~ I'm not really smart. Sorry for that.

BackUp:YumiNakamine 02:08, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Too lazy to make a new titile. Just think of this as where I talk to you.

Ok, So I talked with Guitar Hero Piano Zero ( a producer who I think collabs with Circus-P). And he showed me a website about Western Producers

http://westernvocaloidproducers.squarespace.com/ (still much editing to do, but they'll get it done :) )

Hope this give you some info for all of us. BackUp:YumiNakamine

Rolling My Eyes
I am too busy with Ghibli wiki to deal with your crap. Kthkzbai.


 * Reply to User:Bunai82 is in response to warning as seen here.
 * However, User:Mikachuu9 has removed warning, which is against policy.
 * Evidence of User:Mikachuu9 spamming articles, edit1, edit2 and edit3


 * Assumption, User:Mikachuu9 is trying to gain badge points by intentionally making pointless edits, these edits don't benefit the articles and thus can be looked at as vandalism if continued. This, despite them being minor random text.

-- Bunai82 (talk) 20:59, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

They're already vandalism and insubordination. Mikachuu9 deserves an immediate GTFO. O Herman 21:33, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * On occasion she makes actual constructive edits, on another side she makes pointless edits and throws a tiff when called on it. I'm leaning toward a 3day ban if she continues to edit for the sake of getting a badge (if that is the intention behind the edits). -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:41, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * She does, but then again, she's also easily offended, and autistic. Just give her the ban if she vandalizes one more page. I also remember correctly that she almost spammed her page with pictures. I already lost respect for her when she meddled pages that served no purpose. K4KING 21:53, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and mind your own business. Mmmkay? mikachuu 23:00, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * And what happened is another message and delete. Proof. Ban. Now. She even left a trace. K4KING 23:05, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I got it and reprinted it.
 * Now I am in countdown mode. I don't mind what can be said to me out of frustration, but articles and other users talk pages are another matter. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:11, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry.
I admit it. I WAS trying to get badges. Sometimes I feel like I never get enough respect and kindness. I wanted get higher so people would respect me. I regret it, I'm sorry.mikachuu 01:31, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Earning badges by spamming pages and back-talking to people is not okay. If an admin tells you to stop doing something, then stop it and do not continue, because at that point you become a vandal and vandals can be blocked from editing.


 * If you want to contribute then do so, don't just spam things for some online points. I don't even care for the badge system which is why I have it hidden when viewing my own profile. I edit because I want to build up the wiki. And you don't get respect for badges and edit count, you get it by being a trusted editor. -- Bunai82 (talk) 12:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

GRRRR
YOU DELETED MY MEIKO SAKINE PAGE! WHYWHYWHYWHY!!!!!!!!!!111

mikachuu 01:20, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was the wrong Meiko, the page has been corrected. Go ahead and recreate it with the correct name. And stop flipping out. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:28, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

AND THEN YOU BLOCK IT? IT IS NOT SAKERUNE MEIKO IT IS SAKINE MEIKO!!!!!!!!!!! GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111


 * The Fanmade Vocaloid page needs to be fixed, so I locked it. Half of the entries there will be removed anyway, so I don't want anyone editing till I put it back in order.


 * 裂音 Sakerune
 * 咲音 Sakine
 * Two different kanji.

-- Bunai82 (talk) 01:32, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

do not delete any of my stuff today. I already had enough pain for one day mikachuu 19:39, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're not in the position to tell me that, I am here to keep the wiki in order. So if there are pages and images that are not needed on the wiki, then they will be deleted. If there are unnecessary category placements, they will be reverted. If there is spamming with intentional vandalism or for badges then you really need to consider contributing in a more appropriate manner. -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

GRRRR 2
Expected reaction "You deleted my images again" blah blah blah.
 * Response, upload personal images to real image host, yada yada. -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:12, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

InvaderPD
(InvaderPD) Thanks for telling me and i think i missed that part.

Infobox producer template
I'm asking your permission to edit it around, like changing font-size and things. If you think it's bad-looking or other reasons, feel free to undo my edit :) Esperancia 16:22, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Pages
Hello, sorry to bother.

Somebody added a deviantart link to a fanart picture to the Kagamine Rin \ Len page, so I tried to undo it. But for some reason, the page is a mess now.

Also, for some reason, I couldn't edit a page (luckily, I could leave a message here, for some weird reason...)

And, I don't think this page is necessary.

I hope I'm the only one with this 'edit' problem... :-/ Unknown.System 12:48, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ange Wayne
If you see this, just delete it. The creators been spamming this around the net in every possible place and now its not even funny anymore. We all know its fake and the fact its still being spammed is getting more annoying then anything. One-Winged Hawk 14:14, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a troll. My usual directive? KIWF. O Herman 17:27, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Its been around for ages, it first surfaced during the time when VO forums had to temporary use its old forums a few months back. I wish the creator would take a hint no one is fooled.  I'd add details, but no one is quite sure what Ange is, be it an auto-tuned, UTAU or repitched.  Nobady cares to sit down and work it out either. Its not even a vipploid as such either because its not anything at all.  Its just a troll spamming something everywhere. One-Winged Hawk 20:36, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

voice config template, for v1 and v2
Think you can convert the voice configuration tables I did way back into templates? I'm doing pretty much the same thing in UTAU wiki, should make stuff easier to maintain. O Herman 07:01, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

SeeU
sorry on that, I left it half done, I was cleaning up the articles "reception" section and didn't finish. Long story short, I had a dizzy spell and ended up at someone else's house this afternoon, got bored and decided to use their computer. My landlady picked me up half way through editing. One-Winged Hawk 21:19, October 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alrighty, sorry for reverting. There were also some spelling errors. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:22, October 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * NPs, my spelling is never good anyway, I can understand. It was my fault anyway, I should have waited until I got home. One-Winged Hawk 07:24, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reprint Question
The user 'aliceprincesemiku' in YouTube had been uploading videos without crediting the original producer/cover/subs from YouTube.

A number of people that got their video 'stolen' already asked this user to remove the video from her channel, but instead they got blocked.

Those who got their video stolen already reported her channel, and for now, her channel is deleted. However, she made another YouTube account. I'm not sure if she'll start steailng videos again, but I'm just wondering if there's anyway to stop it.

Some people are keeping an eye on her just in case she starts stealing again. There's a thread on Vocaloid Otaku about it. .Unknown.System 02:24, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Does she speak English?
 * It's noticeable that non-English speakers tend to not link the original source, and do not understand if you tell them so. Some reupload to have a video play in their region or simply to just copy it with not much reason. The Vocaloid Wiki can't do much directly as it doesn't involve anything illegal involving Vocaloid software. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:47, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * If she couldn't read English, then she wouldn't have block the people who asks to remove the video...
 * The problem is some of the 'reprints' are UTAU covers, and, well... Without proper credits people might not know whose UTAU does it belong to, that goes to translation and subs as well.


 * Then if nothing can be done about it here, I guess it's up to YouTube's 'reports'. Unknown.System 03:13, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * This interests me greatly, so out of curiosity who actually are the proper reprinters here? Beside Damesukekun, Blacksaingrain, PervertedNova and others I forget to mention but i know are legal. IS there a list, or rather a category that shows who is who? Or we know who knows to reprint properly? I dunno. I've been seeing other people doing this lately. Well minor ones. I'm watching her Youtube Channel like a hawk as of now though. K4KING 06:39, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Spanish. Oh boy, why do I suddenly feel something like Lourdes is about to transpire again? O Herman 06:59, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about which ones are honest and which ones aren't, usually uploaders will say 'I don't own anything in the video, all rights goes to the original producer'.


 * One thing for sure is those who 'reprints properly' will remove the video when the original uploader asks. This person, instead, blocks them. And the 'blocking' thing isn't happening to only one person. Unknown.System 07:37, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * If that's the case, I think we need something more effective. In this case, it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. We need to make a video, in Spanish, that exposes his/her uncooperative actions and why that person should not be patronized. Said video should be propagated to the Spanish VOCALOID community (and I know personally one who properly reprints, he even asked me personally to reprint two of my VOCALOID OPM videos) so they'll know, and, we get more people to speak out against Alice watchamacallit... O Herman 06:40, October 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * There was 'that' video, in English. Actually it was that video that brought me to that channel. But it was removed already :-/
 * Well, she hasn't done 'anything' from her channel for now. Unknown.System 14:29, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fed up
You know having a blacklist is NOT against the wikias rules unless it gets out of hands. CNSE is trying to get her name off the list by having the list removed. Look, I've now lost my patience with her, she at this point is doing what she has done with the rules of MMD to us directly with the rules of the wikia greater directive. This is getting silly Bunai, and if this continues on we'll have no choice but to classify her because NOTHING we say or do sinks in and the matter does not resolve itself, she uses our words against us, snuffs anyone aside that helped or helps her and is just causing trouble.

Because these are all the symptoms of trolling... And we're suppose to block trolls, flamers and spammers. One-Winged Hawk 08:14, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * On the other hand, every BS she says goes to our FAQ sections, so what she says we can also use against her. I am NOT going to delist her, she's a lost cause and I think this is starting to impact her, the way she's "imploring" to remove blacklists. (and by that blacklist, she keeps one at moonsisters, so this is hypocritical of her.)
 * You are correct; the blacklist does not infringe on Wikia policies and she's just spouting BS. I'm THIS close on making a sign encouraging ED to eat her alive. Even damesukekun found a way to exploit the situation. O Herman 08:22, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, since it is not addressed directly, I do hope it doesn't go against their TOU.
 * Besides that, I would prefer names to be under a mouse over alias as a just in case. -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:47, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

I know I wanted to ban her for wasting our time, but gosh... I had no reason for it and she then went and did something like that. We can't ban her for doing dumb things, we can't ban her for bad mouthing us, nor for being on the blacklist or even for wasting our time... Or speaking her mind. But Vandalism is something we're bound to by our own guidelines and workings to follow through. Its like she handed us the reason because she got fed up, but I almost feel like we've been baited here, yet if we don't uphold our own guidelines and let her get away scottfree, what do we do when the serious vandals come here to wreck the wikia? :-/ One-Winged Hawk 09:20, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also;
 * Passing models around without premission
 * Trying to tarnish names of wikias
 * Spreading misinformation
 * Using blacklist cases against us that she doesn't even quote right
 * Trying to force the blacklists down
 * Trying to abuse rules and laws to her own whim
 * Hosting her own blacklist
 * Covering up her own tracks when found out
 * Vandalism here on the wikia
 * Blocking those who correct or point out her mistakes
 * Trying to talk about how software works she doesn't really understand
 * Lying...

The list is growing every time she does something and this is getting quite sad. I'm just getting more and more fed up with her, even if you take her as a troll, she isn't that impressive and if its attention she wants its the wrong type. I say it again, I'm just fed up, banning her doesn't feel like its going to get anything across, I don't know... I saw her other stuff 4 months ago, she used to be just another weaboo, but at least that used to be all that you could crib about. Heck, as a former anime fan, I pretty much never really thought that was even worth taking notice of as there is a ton of guys on youtube like her. I just want her to leave the Vocaloid related stuff alone... -_-

No wonder a lot of the MMD guys want to just bump her out. I don't know how much time I want to waste on her. I'm moving tomorrow so I'll be gone for a few days due to net issues. I just hope she plays it smart while I'm going because right now this is getting REALLY boring.One-Winged Hawk 09:39, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clear up. ^_^ -- Bunai82 (talk) 09:43, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

A new Vocaloid
Her name, is Tone Rion.

Outfit- Maidlike. picture. A silhouette.

Proof: http://www.nicovideo.jp/vonama

There's gonna be a 3-day Vocaloid Namahousou. Just linked ya, since you are the boss in charge of Vocaloids here. I can't make the page yet. She is currently, unknown at the moment. I made a page for her, in case you or Angel will edit it. Made it in advance just in case. Tone Rion

Sorry if I seem pushy, but I got excited. You can't blame a kitty cat.K4KING 17:08, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you,
 * I am not very good at detailing information on Vocaloids, but I'll put up what is known thus far. -- Bunai82 (talk)

Table alignment
Look where you're editing in Fanmade Vocaloids. Name and icons aren't matching. O Herman 04:04, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll get to it, I am kind of all over right now. I did a roll back because I couldn't tell if the IP removed or added something. -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:06, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Uhbunai....(Pun intended)
Jokes aside,

Yeah, Either delete this page, or put it in the fanmade page temporarily. I'm like a hawk!

Kageito I know i'm being nossy, but I liek to help.K4KING 23:16, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Does AquesTone belong to this wikia or not? Since it's UTAU Generally. Also, has the....issue cool down? I feel uneasy. K4KING 00:00, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not sure, I guess Angel will decide in the end since she can gather information better than I can when it comes to synthesizers.
 * And as far as I can tell, no, it is still continuing. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:23, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * ......This is unsettling. I feel useless. TAT Looking at my position, it's a stalemate. I really wonder if Crypton will get involved in this....
 * K4KING 00:30, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...
Should we add the Youtube List and Song pages for the V3's now? I mean, it's already October 21st right? (From where I am)


 * You mean Mew and SeeU?
 * You can if you want. -- Bunai82 (talk) 05:02, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see I forgot to right my username again. T.T So we can add VY1's and Gumi's V3 Demo now? Great! YumiNakamine
 * Sorry to interrupt ~.~
 * VY1's V3 demo is already in VY1's page, it hurts me that no one cares about her demos
 * Are you going to put VY1's V3 demo in her notable song section? Unknown.System 06:17, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Notables or YT page?
 * There is still the idea of what to do with Notable Songs pages. Besides that I don't mind what is being done with the pages as of now. -- Bunai82 (talk) 06:21, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I'm wondering where Yumi is going to put the demos. The Vocaloids' demos are in the notable section. Since VY1 and VY1V3 is technically the same... 'thing' I don't think there should be a notable page for it... Same goes to Gumi Extend.
 * So, Yumi are you going to put the demos in the YouTube list? Unknown.System 06:28, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be the best place for it (YT list). I guess just mention demo in parenthesis if wanted.
 * I was thinking of something else, sorry. Still need to figure out what to do with the pages though. -- Bunai82 (talk) 06:40, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh. I just notice the demo's in VY1's pages. Still, for now, the demo's will be released to NND. Time will be the difference. I understand since it's released to YT then NND (same goes to SeeU) We should at least put it like Sweet Ann's page, huh? (Sides, K4 said he ain't frequent on YT) YumiNakamine


 * Lol, it's not like you're hurting the page if you do. It can be temporary until an idea springs up. -- Bunai82 (talk) 06:49, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Good idea. What's your opinion Qiara nee-chan? You did edit VY1's page a lot.YumiNakamine


 * I onlt edited VY1's page because no one added her demo songs, I watch vocaloidstore both NND and YT so I know when it shows...
 * I like your idea, I think both VY1 and Gumi's demos should be like Sweet Ann's, they have different box arts right? (VY1V3 and Gumi Extend)
 * Then in their V3 section, just give a link to their demo songs in the notable pages...
 * I'm clueless about Gumi, I haven't even heard of her Extend demos, I'm such a horrible fan LOL. Unknown.System 07:09, October 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Bunai, I was thinking, should we do "Notable Mew Songs" or "Songs Featuring Mew"? I mean, last night, a bunch of her videos were up, along with SeeU's demo's, which make me a little crazy. And how about VY1's YT list then? Should we add -Song- VY1V3 like that? YumiNakamine


 * Are you making pages for them? -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:49, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well.... I was gonna put their demo's there (for now) and maybe make their YT list. Do you wanna do that? YumiNakamine


 * I have no problem with either method. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:57, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * So, I'll finish editing Sweet Ann's pages then I'll make their YT list. maybe I should ask Angel san about the song pages. YumiNakamine
 * So, I'll finish editing Sweet Ann's pages then I'll make their YT list. maybe I should ask Angel san about the song pages. YumiNakamine


 * It wouldn't surprise me if she wanted to do away with the pages entirely, that was basically her idea after creating the 'hall of fame' page. -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:21, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, how's the page looking Bunai? Is it good we put it like that? Wait, Angel's a girl?YumiNakamine


 * On the YT page? Yes, it looks fine lol.
 * Yeah, you can read her post about it -VocaloidOtaku post -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:45, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

back online
Sorry, should be around for a while since I'm now not moving ina hurry. Net literally just came on for me 5 mins ago... its 22:20 here though. But I missed Vocaloid 3's release and Oliver's big debute. I was told the name by CF at Vocaloid Otaku forums 3 months ago. One-Winged Hawk 21:22, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * So... Why wasn't Oliver's page made to match the other wikia pags Bunai? I am disappointed with the editors here. ^_- One-Winged Hawk 21:57, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * The set up is there, but I had to hide it because not a lot of information was given, same goes for the other Vocaloid3's being released. All my info was coming from the VO thread, so when someone mentioned that the wiki description was wrong, I corrected it, though I am still ticked that no one from VO bothered to contact me about it. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:11, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Even with the basics of information, breaking from the layout can confuse a person. And as the page grew it only encouraged it to get worst. Never mind, its sorted and fixed... Honestly I'm peeved since I say VO forums attacking us again over Oliver's page.  Apparently we're not allowed to say he is Vocaloid 3 even though its bloody well confirmed he is Vocaloid 3. ¬_¬ One-Winged Hawk 22:18, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for correcting it.
 * I am more of a gather of information, I can break things down when I feel there is enough of it, but forming it in my own words while being neutral can be difficult. Oddly it is mostly for official Vocaloid lol -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:31, October 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm a few weks behind so I've got to catch up. Thee isn't a lot I can do right now.  From what I've seen on VO, the anti-English hate is still alive and kicking though. And there is still no love for us around VO.  And oh... We also have to note now the hate spreads to other non-Japanese Vocaloid though.  This is getting embarressing for the fandom!  But still, 72 pages of talk in Oliver's topic makes me happy.  ^_^ One-Winged Hawk 22:42, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Vocaloid Wiki still has a long way to go though. I am also interested in Oliver. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:58, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Same. I am not expecting Vocaloid Wiki to be the main reliable source, but I would like readers to notice that contributors do try and post correct and sourced information. If the Vocaloid fandom community is meant to share information, then we can't do much if we isolate ourselves to one place. That kind of leads to snobbery if one is not careful. And there are still people who only think Crypton is all there is to Vocaloid =_=*
 * I am also shocked and disappointed at people rejecting non-Japanese Vocaloids so harshly. I guess I am just too hopeful when it comes to wanting more Vocaloids in various languages.

About Policy
Seeing Vocaloidlyrics wikia,

Can I copy the same format of this wikia, like it's simplified ruleset and privacy policy?

I'll edit it and make it to match the wikia, of that is OK? K4KING 00:19, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * The default simplified rules set can be copied to any wikia without reference, as it is from Wikipedia. For another wikis policies you can also copy and modify their rules for your own wiki, though it would be courteous to reference it below the page.
 * The policy sections on Vocaloid Wiki are still a work in progress, just so you know. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:25, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Seems perfect for me, I can adopt it then and edit the policy as required. I'll let you see it when it is ready. I hope, It's so busy lately, in all regions of fandoms XD K4KING 02:56, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

The "notable" pages
OH! I honestly forgot I'm sorry!

Should I change it back? We did agreed about changing the name. It's not funny that someone suddenly reverted it without further notice while I have explained that we will put descriptions about video views limit in the page. Ugh, I feel like screaming. Esperancia 22:35, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course, the direction of the page will simply have to adapt with "Song featuring". But I do believe taking away notable reduces the need for people to add songs they found personally likable. If Avaflava1 wants "notable" on the page, a section for it can be created if need be. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:49, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Applying updates
You can see them around some of the wikia.

Basically I made history sections now focus on the Vocaloid itself and created a new "Marketing" section. Randm things like that politicain using Miku still belong in history, but things like Good smile car stuff belongs in marketing.

Also, I'm retiring all images based on Vocaloid sthat do not steem from offical images. Its about time we cracked down on them. I know fans are attached to them, but Leon has just blue lips, and even common images invite misuse here on the wikia. My final decision to partementely retired them came when I noticed... That image of VY1 in pants... Well, I didn't understand why it was there considering it was by someone with very little influence on the Japanese fandom.

So from now on, we will include only images that represent the Vocaloids as they have been depicted commerical-wuise to advoid issues like that. It was something I was going to decide and announce in New Years day, but I'm putting my foot down on because its getting out of hand on the wikia. Even the MMD models will have to be on the commerical, not the fan depiction from now on. One-Winged Hawk 10:07, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Uh...
vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Stella_Nox_Lucis_Illuminati

Yeah, trash it. I don't it as important or move it to the Fanmade- wait- it's just Haku. get rid of it.

yeah, i got pissed from seeing it. Partially cause I'm half embarrassed to see it happening.

Excuse me, will you tell me the reasons why is the page "Stella Nox" has been moved?

and what are the criteria that are needed for it to be included among the fanmade within this wiki?

Hi...
"Excuse me, will you tell me the reasons why is the page "Stella Nox" has been moved? and what are the criteria that are needed for it to be included among the fanmade within this wiki? -- The6thMessenger

The criteria varies among the admins and the community, also such character pages are done spur of the moment by visitors. Many simply want to use the Vocaloid Wiki as their personal promo just because it is the Vocaloid Wiki.

I took it upon myself to adopt a wiki(Fanloid) in order for people to post their fanmade characters without interfering with Vocaloid Wikis growth. The Vocaloid Wiki is currently focusing on official and notable content, thus the wanting of new fanmades on this wiki are low priority. Some of the current fanmade pages were created before the rule, however, any pages afterward is due to community impact, such as the creation of Shiteyan'yo. -- Bunai82 (talk) 09:05, November 2, 2011 (UTC)"

"Many simply want to use the Vocaloid Wiki as their personal promo just because it is the Vocaloid Wiki."

Um, no i do not use it as my own promo, it's just i don't have established name over the internet. But anyways thank you.

unlike some Fanmade Vocaloids, i'am trying to develop it on my own, in fact, i'am just waiting for an English voice bank for Rin, nevertheless i can create music using FL Studio. I'am not a good graphical artist, that is why my art is a "SLOP","SLOP","FREAK", but nevertheless the thought is there.

anyways, this is the very simple experiment i worked on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8kNYsoG7w

it's not much, and some people say that it's just lazily increases the pitch of Rin, but i guarantee you, it is more than that...

Hi again
Hi, i'm currently at step 2 of creating Stella Nox, i have not yet achieved what i want, the goal is to modify Rin's voice to be a little softer, a little less present, a little more feminine, i have "achieved" some but not yet satisfied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN7q1vT2ff8

The6thMessenger 01:10, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rin's voice is quite distinctive, so it is harder to "make different" compared to Miku.
 * I'm no expert at parameters, but there is a page for it. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:49, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

before i make another mistake, here is another question
Um, since my character is an established concept, and is currently in progress, am i allowed to include her in this page?: http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid_Wiki:Proposed_Fanmade_Vocaloids

"Rin's voice is quite distinctive, so it is harder to "make different" compared to Miku.

I'm no expert at parameters, but there is a page for it." you said, um what page? and i agree, maybe i should consider expanding to Miku too, but nevertheless i can actually hear the differences, or is that maybe i just have good ear? but anyways that is not the current vocal configuration anymore, in fact i found a stable set of parameters, but i still explore for a better voice if there is such.

The6thMessenger 12:21, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * The proposed page is for concepts that are in the "idea" phase that are not stretched beyond a paragraph. They are also were I dump characters who pages were created when people were asked not to.


 * There are proposed lists on the Fanloid wiki, but you don't have to add your character if you don't want to. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * oh... so those are fanmade that were abandoned because they hit a dead-end on their progress?
 * and were not accepted officially? anyways, the "dump" word usage, you speak as if you do not like their work, it seems to me like that. so do you "like" my character a bit that is why it was moved to another wiki?


 * also, i would like to thank you for paying attention...
 * The6thMessenger 00:28, November 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't know if they are abandoned because few creators come back to add any new information.
 * No fanmade, (exceptions Haku, Neru, Hachune, Sakine and Tako) can be considered official. Unless you mean official as in effort put into the them and the character is active. The usage of "dump" means I put them there until I can find a proper place for them on the Fanloid wiki (it use to be Vocaloid wiki). The proposed pages are a placeholder, especially if a created page is deleted, the information is then saved on the proposed page.


 * I have no issue with fanmades, because I am very into viewing all kinds of original character, which is another reason why I made the Fanloid Wiki. But I (and the other admins) do not want to see an influx of them on Vocaloid wiki, as it distracts from the wikis intent and many don't seem to maintain the character. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:39, November 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * oh... alright. how did Haku, Neru, Hachune, Sakine, and Tako became official?The6thMessenger 01:16, November 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Crypton (an official vocaloid company) accepted them as derivatives. They are currently the only company that has done so. These characters have been featured in games that feature official Crypton characters, and merchandise by top companies. They are not Vocaloid (in software sense). -- Bunai82 (talk) 02:40, November 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just curious, is there any possible way that i can submit My character to them?
 * i mean, it would be great news if they accepted it.


 * The6thMessenger 03:30, November 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, there is not.
 * The reason why Haku and Neru are so popular is because they were created at the hype of Miku's release and continued with fan support, this is when people were just discovering that such software existed. Even though it has a previous version. I don't think they were submitted to Crypton, it is just that the company recognized the fanbase and connected with them. -- Bunai82 (talk) 03:46, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Kikaiko
Im terribly sorry im going to fix that as soon as possible

Remix of original vocaloid song
This is my first time talking so here goes ...

Recently i have been updating Hatsune Miku Youtube song List and i stumbled upon this problem.

1) Remix of Vocaloid original songs are still counted as original songs right ?

2) What if there are multiple remix for a single song title ? e.g Light Song/Plug Out etc.

--Luvmenot 15:50, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

?
huh?Hyomafan 21:48, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Youtube songlist irreplacecable links
Bundai Bundai !! Recently I have been removing broken links of several Youtube songlist while keeping the title.

So here is the problem ... After removing the broken links, I tried to fix all the song title that has no links, but several songs seems to be extinct on Youtube ... So are the titles to be removed (because those songs are no longer found on Youtube and hence should be removed from list) or kept ( so that someone else may by some chance be able to find the song) ?

Luvmenot 15:48, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry .. What i mean is this. Yes i have been removing broken links and keeping the song title. I had alady tried filling back the links. But some songs could not be found on Youtube, so should it be kept (so that someone else may by some chance be able to find the song) or removed (cause its no longer found on Youtube and hence not part of the list anymore).

Luvmenot 03:16, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Vocaloid FanFic Wiki
Am I able to advirtise a wiki here? I made a FanFac wikifor the Vocaloids and really need editers, and this is the best place to find people willing to do it. I'm willing to give free adminship to first editers. I'm a Coka Cola   Can!   19:41, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi Bunai. I saw your edit in the sandbox page yesterday (Time zone difference) also saw the layout regarding MikuFes 09. Does that have anything to do with Vocaloid concert songlist ? If so, what is that for ?

Sorry .. It seems that i am always troubling you for every little problem and also i just realised that i spelled your name wrongly the other day :X

Page Problem
Bunai-san, do you know what happened to this. I've been trying to figure out what happened. YumiNakamine

Notice
Elections 2012 - everyone is invitd to this, good luck everyone!

BTW Bunai, do you know how to make this an offical site announcement? One-Winged Hawk 12:41, December 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * thanks, I'll send it out later then when I've got some time. One-Winged Hawk 14:16, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Welll....
You have had a lot of time and its held back this wikia from sorting out handle the few important ones. I can understand though, it was sudden and out of blue, but I had to say "enough is enough" because no one gave me any information on whats going on and I was getting really peeved no one told me a thing on what is going on.

Okay. I won't delete them on the 1st, but tell me what you are doing because they are holding things back a little here. I don't want to turn back ont he featured article and until I know whats going and staying. One-Winged Hawk 21:46, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Really I'd have preferred it looking back if you transferred first and sorted later, which I've done before in the One Piece wikia when it was first set up. But I decided to let everyone do things their way. I know you work on other wikias, so do I but not as much as I used tobecause I've cut down to focus on this one because I got thrown into beaucrat position when I didn't want to.  True you did put up information on the fanloids, however, its hard to work when there is not much progress. If its tranferring the information, I can do a cut + paste job for you and you can sort it out later at the fanloid wikia. I've put one or two things on hold progress wise to give a chance.  When the UTAU wikia became somewhat big, the few UTAU were all transferred off this wikia onto there.


 * The problem is Bunai, I'm not being rude or anything like that, I'm just out of option. Eh... If I do nothing it could be months for all I know before someone puts their butt in gear to sort them. I've got to put some sort of deadline on things now.  I'm under pressure from the Vocaloid fans a little to make the improvements on the wikia. They've been a heck of a force to please in the last year. ^_^'


 * Saying that, I have had experience with setting up a wikia in a uber hurry. In 2006/7 when the wikipedia anime group decided they'd had enough of anime fans running their pages their own way and put a set of rules which bumpbed them off of editing how they please.  A large number of the articles suddenly got a delete notice put on them and we had to do a mass "grab everything" from wikipedia and we had just 24 hours to do it in because none of the anime group members cared for our reasons for them staying. It doesn't matter, all I seem to do with that wikia these days is go there to sort a few lingering trivia section problems but thats another story.  I'm like an old timer who just step in every forum discussion to explain why things were done the way they were do.


 * Not much to say, when I retuire from wikia editing I'll prob step out of wikia editing entirely. This wikia runs itself these days mroe or less, all I do is make a few changes here and there to see what works overall for the wikia.  One-Winged Hawk 22:44, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I can start doing things today. Like put the featured article thing back in place. :-) One-Winged Hawk 09:44, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Template
On this page, the template (not the character box, but the blue one under the gallery,) has a bunch of red links, and I tried to fix it, but it won't let me edit it. :/

♡Iroha   Append☆  00:32, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then. Well thanks for clarification. I wasn't really worried about it though. :p

♡Iroha   Append☆  00:40, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Some kind of minor disturbance.
This page is starting to irritate me. It's been trolled over 6 times and I've been undoing (I've seen you and Yumi did it, twice) it over and over. Sure, sometimes there are trolls in wikias, but I don't think this user will ever stop. It's been on-going for two days in a row now.

Can anything be done about it? Unknown.System 14:28, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

BTW
BTW, tomorrow I'm away until Sunday due to my nan's funeral and won't be back until Sunday. Can't be helped, he died last week suddenly. I wrote blog entieries about it. One-Winged Hawk 01:22, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Q: regarding youtube songlist
Hi Bunai ! Sorry to disturb you again ... Here are some questions regarding youtube songlist ...

1.) I recently noticed that certain song list were changed to use templates . What is the reason for using Template over the original listing ?

2.) The templates did not display any song title (would that not trouble viewers because certain songs exist in youtubes but may not come out in search result)

3.) Why is there a need to shorten youtube links by removing &featured=related when adding songs to song list ?

Luvmenot 11:03, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

One of the example would be SeeU and Big Al song list (look under the original section)

Luvmenot 22:59, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Noted ... I will write it in my profile page that I will be changing "it" back because you say so ... (I am being paranoid that this may sow discord :X

Luvmenot 10:56, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Just so you know
Please check history of this user

I had done a revert(told angel about it even though she is away) and felt that u should know

Luvmenot 14:06, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

About the composer category.
Just to make sure, composers are people who composes musics; may it be covers or original like Circus-P for example. And producers can be a producer / illustrator / composer? Composer is just a category like illustrators only for those who... Composes?

I want to add the producer pages to the composer categories, but I'm making sure. I'm planning to make a Legendary Vocaloid Master Ps category; but composers are apparently more important right now. Unknown.System 13:04, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, then, I'll add it anyway.

And, is there something... Wrong with the wikia's layout? Nothing, really. The background, it used to be fully black with green lines, now it's half white; that's all. Unknown.System 14:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

strength/weakness
I plan to put it into a template or chart or something later, I just didn't have time before the funeral to deal with it. So its the "core" of whatever I end up doing with it. I just need some time to tweak and put some references I left off back in there. I will admit I hadn't decided what to dow ith it just yet, but I had the death of my nan on my mind, fustrations over my mother + uncles' arguments over inheritance and some deep emotions to deal with I wasn't really in the mood for.

As arkward as it seems it is to work with, I prefer it this way. The other way invited too much critise and was a little too unfair toards some Vocaloids. This method lists things and lets the reader make up their own mind on the Vocaloid. Even if we change it entirely, I don't want to go entirely back to the old system for these reasons. One-Winged Hawk 16:34, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:
I would like very much to know why the "Korrupten den Geist" page was deleted. Being its author, I do not recall the given permissions to do this without contacting me first. Please explain why this was done.

204.238.24.12 01:45, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I noticed recently that you deleted the "Korrupten den Geist" wiki page. Being the author of the page, I simply must know why this was done. I do not recall any sort of conversation between you, whom I assume is a moderator here, and I, the author of the page, regarding the actions taken on the wiki page.

Could you please explain to me clearly why this was done?

Tabris.lazuli 02:05, January 20, 2012 (UTC)Neuanfang (tabris.lazuli)

I'm not sure I understand. Why was the page deleted? Was it a context thing? Please tell me what could be done to make it "appropriate" for the wiki. 13:13, January 20, 2012


 * I explained it already.
 * The page was created 36 days ago last year in December. It's content was vague on the subject and there was no further information added by you; there was no source or proof of the series existence, and there is no information on who Neuanfang is.


 * If you want the page resorted, then you better mark it as a work in progress and not just let it sit there. You could have started a blog entry about this to organize it first, but if a page isn't being used it will likely be subject to deletion.


 * To repeat Again - The series has to actually exist, if it doesn't or is on hiatus until March then there is no reason for a page on something that hasn't been created or about a Producer that has shown no previous work. Please sign up to the wiki with an account and create a blog about it. Use a blog entry to type about the series progress until its actual debut. I'll restore the page only if the page will be of use and will be edited, if it is not then it remains deleted. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:25, January 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right. I'll get onto working on Neuanfang's page here shortly. Anything specific I should search the web for? I've taken a look at other Producers around the wikia, but I'm not sure what needs to be added.02:00, February 1, 2012


 * The producer needs published work, be it online or a CD. It has to be available.
 * Read the producer template, which can be found by going to the Producer category. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:17, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

New Page
Sorry to disturb you again...

A new page from a wikia contributor ... I don't know what to do wih it .... Sooooo here ~ January 30, 2012

Hey, I know you deleted the Abstract Nonsense page since it was all messed, but I saw this and started editing, then I went to publish and the page was deleted, so can I recreate the article? BTW, I posted a thing in the sandbox about lyrics on song pages, since I always have problems with getting them to line up with each other *has problems with a lot of stuff* and since no one relplied to my message on my talk page, I used it on Miracle Paint, and now the Abstract Nonsense page, so.....yeah.....Avaflava1 05:22, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

new page from another one .... here ~

Luvmenot 04:22, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Seems as that's a "page" for a male derative of Seeu, Usee. Fanloid wiki? Avaflava1 04:30, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Plug for VP's website
My own group needs to advertise that they need donations. Where can we put that in the front page? I want to consult it with you first. Website is in http://vpinas.animiku.net O Herman 05:33, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Code help...
I'm sorry to bother, but I thought you could help me with this ><

I'm trying to make a template for the discography section (because it looked too plain), and I did then I realized how much room it took, and there are lots of albums, not too mention compilations. I'm already bothered with how crowded OSTER-project's page is (because she has lots of work featured), and albums would just make it look more crowded.

My question right now is, if it's not being used, can the tables be hidden? Is it using the "if" function? Unknown.System 11:20, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'm done with it, I put the template already as "infobox discography", but I only did it to Wonderful Opportunity's page. I realized how crowded it was and decided to change it, but I don't know how to hide the second coloumn... Unknown.System 05:14, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fanmades
I only covered the "Miku Formula" page because its worth noting how Miku influenced Vocaloid designs, however, it was appropriate for her own page due to how I had to relate it to other Vocaloids. I think this will have the same problem. While I don't think the wikia needs to go back to covering fanmades individually (it was a vast and sadly vague subject half the time that was hard to track on most), it would be nice to cover the history of their developement I think so a page detailing the history would be the best way forward. One-Winged Hawk 21:56, February 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * On that one I have to pass... I really don't know if thats going to be a good idea. Perhaps your best adding a "recommended links" section of the page with it in? One-Winged Hawk 10:26, February 3, 2012 (UTC)