Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32500188-20140428192051/@comment-25618373-20160421044749

Scintillarescenza wrote: EmbraceEvil wrote: 1. implying utau sounds more realistic

2. A better UI is VITAL for westeners to even consider using it professionally 1. UTAU does sound more realistic, because Vocaloid alters the tone that the samples were recorded in. Take Ruby for example, she sounds extremely nasal but it was confirmed that her raw samples did not contain the nasal sound. Cyber Diva on the other hand doesn't even sound like a human, she sounds like a robot generated voice. When her demo songs were up some people said that they didn't like her because she sounds too human and they wanted Vocaloid to sound robotic, which I found absolutely ridiculous. Dex/Daina/Fukase are improvements over...whatever Cyber Diva was supposed to be but they don't sound that realistic either. I'm not saying that every UTAU always sounds like a human, but they sound more similar to their voice providers than Vocaloids do because they sound exactly like their samples.

2. You say that as if thousands of professional musicians in the west (who are not part of the Vocaloid fandom) use Vocaloid, when they don't with the exception of that guy who made the song Sad Machine. People still have the stigma that Vocaloids are AI robots that are going to take over the world or something, and it doesn't help that every weeb introduces it in that way. Most people who have heard of Vocaloid have never even seen its UI, they just think of it as the cute holographic anime girl so it's not like Vocaloid is regarded as a professional music tool in the music industry either. 1. i've heard utau and vocaloid. Vocaloid sounds more realistic to me. Neither are to the point you can say they sound exactly like a human we agree on. However, from what i can tell, utau sounds kind of.... generic? It's like it tries too hard to sound realistic, plus it creates vocals with a worse same voice syndrome than vocaloid has. what i hear is it sounds like something trying to be realistic rather than actual realism. meanwhile, vocaloid has gotten way ahead in realism. you can easily compare fukase (well depending on range cuz a lot of songs i find tend to be pushing him way too hard) and dex (daina to a much lesser extent) to their voice providers.

2. um, have you not seen engloid sales lately? if you're going by how many videos there are that mention the vocaloid's name, and i don't know if you are, you're not going to find much. professional westerners outside the fandom won't credit them. it could still use work, but utau has pretty much zero attention outside the fandom(s)

in response to umbreon: you can't compare the early days of computers (or any days) to utau.