Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32500188-20140428192051/@comment-25618373-20160421062722

Scintillarescenza wrote: EmbraceEvil wrote: 1. i've heard utau and vocaloid. Vocaloid sounds more realistic to me. Neither are to the point you can say they sound exactly like a human we agree on. However, from what i can tell, utau sounds kind of.... generic? It's like it tries too hard to sound realistic, plus it creates vocals with a worse same voice syndrome than vocaloid has. what i hear is it sounds like something trying to be realistic rather than actual realism. meanwhile, vocaloid has gotten way ahead in realism. you can easily compare fukase (well depending on range cuz a lot of songs i find tend to be pushing him way too hard) and dex (daina to a much lesser extent) to their voice providers.

2. um, have you not seen engloid sales lately? if you're going by how many videos there are that mention the vocaloid's name, and i don't know if you are, you're not going to find much. professional westerners outside the fandom won't credit them. it could still use work, but utau has pretty much zero attention outside the fandom(s) 1. What about UTAU sounding generic though? If it sounds generic, then that's just because the voice provider has a generic voice, not the "V3 female syndrome". My original point is that Vocaloid doesn't keep the voice provider's accent or tone as faithfully as UTAU would. Fukase and Dex do sound similar to their voice providers but Miku, Cyber Diva, and Unity-chan don't even sound like people so it's not a Vocaloid thing.

2. I'm pretty sure most of those sales are still coming from the fandom. Also you were the one who brought up the thing about professional musicians using either Vocaloid or UTAU. I said I was fine if they recorded a Vocaloid of Marina because it's extremely unlikely that she'd record an UTAU (even if I personally think her accent would work better in UTAU) 1. i've heard a lot of utau. not even ritsu, teto, meiji, or even renri escape duplicate vocals. also, not sure why you're Miku, Cyber Diva, and Unity as examples. you basically use some of the worst examples.

2. yeahhhh no. i honestly doubt that given the mixed response to dex and daina, and given how Avanna was Zero G's best selling product for 3 YEARS despite the fandom barely giving a dang about it. also, who brought it up shouldn't matter. ALSO (using also again because i can't think of another word to use cuz brain fart) just noticed your marina part oops.i'm not sure why you think accents are apparent in one than another. i hear no issues accent wise  in either.