Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-53539-20180529221920/@comment-53539-20180530133909

I pretty much created this topic to discuss things like this, so its fine. There is just so much more vocaloid has to do before it could replace singers altogether.

I did bring this up before, but on DA appeared a Justin Bieber versus Len thing. I do not like Bieber and think he is a spoilt brat, he hates his fans and has no respect for anyone. Yet as a singer he is decent enough. ITs a case of the talent is attached to a horrible person. I don't know why he even has fans at all. The comparison between him and Len is crazy as like all Vocaloids Len has issues, more so since the issue with "voiced by a woman" impacts him too.

I will note the amount of variations you can come up with for vocaloids is crazy, but, most producers don't seem to really use too many variations. They'll typically pick 1 voicebank and use almost the entire song with it, instead of changing voicebanks to suit the song and make the singer more expressive/human. Sure, Luka v4x can give you over 100 variations on the Luka voice, but who uses that many?

And you guys know I have issues with people who do phonetic matching and think English with a Japanese vocaloid is "better then an engloid" or just an English voicebank. Its nice someone can do it, but they spoil this by saying things like this. It pains me because no matter how good English vocaloid gets in particular, the efforts with a voicebank not built for English will get praise. >_<'

Vocaloids also can't learn new phonetics or gain new samples, something I've mentioned before, whereas real singers can learn words and so fourth.

This reminds me of how I've heard several versions of the Vocaloid covers of the Titanic song whatever it is called, and none recreate the power in moments such as the chorus, even the most powerful Vocaloids lack enough oomph and lift to do things.