Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-33899215-20180115031450/@comment-53539-20180221081811

Puppetofastar wrote: fucking yumemi nemu. why do we need two vocaloids by the same VP that sound nearly identical eVEN THOUGH THAT VPS FIRST VOCALOID WAS ALREADY THE LEAST POPULAR VOCALOID EVER.

what made you think this was a good idea. Rion is lower tier-mid tier popularity and was originally one of a band of female vocaloids that never happened, in short she is a example of voice acted vocals. She was recorded in the old style of recording method which made the vocal easy to use for music at the cost of uniqueness. A lot of V3's ended up at points sounding the same because of it. Rion stood out more but she also wasn't too popular since she was marketed at Otaku's. The most major market is the DTM crowd in Japan, aka amateur and professional producers. The Otaku's may be buy the CDs, but they don't really buy the software. A big issue also was that there were so many vocals at the time of Rion's release that the vocaloid3 vocals ate into each other's sales and some took a while to take off because of it. There were clear winners and losers at this point.

Nemu is recorded with the new method introduced in V4, thus she sounds more like the provider thus is a realistic portrayal of a vocaloid. These newer style recorded vocals are harder touse but have more unique traits. While at first she sounds similar to Rion, she doesn't behave like her and the more you push the vocals, the more they become different. Vocaloid is a maths based program so it will react to Nemu's vocal differently to Rion's. Nemu is marketed also towards the DTM crowd a lot more.

Honestly its not a problem that there are two characters by the same actress. Bare in mind that both Kagamine's are voiced by the same actress, and there are points where they do sound the same because of it. If you hear the VA talking in real life in the voices of both characters, she actually struggles to separate the pair overall, the tone is only slightly different between the two at points. ITs only the deeper and higher ranges separating them so when she shifts her vocal they loose the overlap.

Nemu's being pushed a lot more then Rion anyway, since Rion doesn't have a starter pack but Nemu does and Nemu also is in the Mobile editor app and Rion isn't. Rion likely sold enough units to warrant an update despite her lukewarm popularity anyway.

Not stepping on your opinion, just noting a few things you've been mistaken on.

There are a number of vocaloids a lot less popular even among the Japanese vocaloids. There are a lot of unpopular non-Japanese below her too.