Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-5057772-20130707174455/@comment-53539-20130715210139

@Zim, the "drop it" is advice not a command.... We're trying to brek a loop thats formed here because no advance is occuring on the subject.

Having been in a on going wikia discussion that last 2 months at the One Piece wikia where we JUST repeated the same responses over and over... Yeah, repeating conversations without something backing them are very tiring and get us no where.

On your side;


 * You want her page and argue that she deserves a page because she is influenced by Vocaloid
 * You argue she is known by the fandom
 * You argue there is a possiblity she may become a vocaloid

In all 3 cases, the argument is weak and pretty much down to your opinion. It is your opinion only she should have a page. Nothing else, you havent' even backed up her proof of popularity with the fandom.

In the case of Adept-eX and I;
 * We point out this is the vocaloid wikia, that she is so far having nothing confirmed to be a vocaloid.
 * I've said I'm working towards retiring non-Vocaloid related pages to focus us on our subject as the ones remaining are left overs from our distant past (pre-Jun 2010). The removal takes some time because we've got to wait because the ones working on their projects are doing other things (e.g. I've got a trip to France occupying my time this week, otherwise I should be improving the vocaloid product pages). The easy pages to break down are already gone, what we're left with is things we've got to work with to find their place or build a structure on so we *can* remove the issues sometimes.
 * Due to how things are its not 100% clear enough to determin on WHAT Kamui is, even if she has a page its a vague and weak page for these reasons alone.
 * We've noticed the topic is repeating itself now, we've told you to go off and bring something new to the table because we want to break this tiring loop. Adept-eX and I are not too stubborn we won't back down on our points if you have proof of package.
 * We ask you wait as as far as we know right now there is nothing to strengthen a clause for Kamui to some news if you can't find news, it will come with patience. This is advice from experience
 * We point out that discussing Kamui is seriously off topic for this subject of the topic, to note while I'm mentioning it she DOES have a topic or two related to her so you would be best to take this all there to save this topic continuing off mark.

Its nice we're finally having a big discussion on the wikia, its a first.... But this is one of those discussions that isn't bringing closure.

In both cases stubbornness is causing problems for both sides to accept the others reasons. Neither side of the argument is budging. We need a breaker in the discussion and we just don't have that right now. >_<

Tl;dr - just disprove Adept-eX and I wrong on the matter in the cprrect Kamui topic and not this one...

@ LinguisticQuestioner ; Teto has a page, but I did reduce UTAU down to a basic page. In the distant future she will be leaving this wikia, for now the hold up is I'm not satisfied with how things are at the UTAU wikia yet. If I had one month with that wikia, I'd turn things around, but I don't touch that wikia since I know not much about the software, whereas I have usage with vocaloid.

The other topic I'm looking to retire is the matter on Black Rock shooter, because theres quite a well built wikia we can redirect information to that pretty much cover who she is better then we can here.... But again, like Teto, she is the back of the queue... :-/

And no, like I'm saying to Kim, Kamui has no mention of becoming a vocaloid, if she is I'm telling you to also bring proof of this. THIS is what we lack right now either way. :-/

Anyway like I've done witht he vocloid package page, I'll write up a discussion page in the forums here to show everyone what is going on so I can get feed back. Some of the long-term veterans are attached to these pages and this is another issue I've got to handle throughout this. O_O