Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20160430010301/@comment-53539-20160612083156

VO has a topic on Vocaloid singing in other languages. I find this is like the UTAU versus Vocaloid issue....As well as the quality issue combined.

Lets start with the UTAU versus Vocaloid. UTAU has merits above Vocaloid, while Vocaloid has merits above UTAU. But what tends to happen is the merits Vocaloid has above UTAU, UTAU supporters will claim either doesn't exist or UTAU does them better.

The next issue with clarity is that there are far too many who hold the ability to understand the attempt as a sign its HQ result. Even if there are tons of other issues like the vocaloid basically sounding like its still trying to do spanish or Japanese. I'm not using the term "accent" here because having an accent is not the issue. Even if the vocal is built for that language it might have an accent still. I'm also not talking about smoothness either, I'm talking about the way the vocaloid sounds. Basically, back to the issue about how a human can improve themselves but how Vocaloid samples are locked into a mould.

So when you get a good attempt at a voicebank with Vocaloid singing in another language, it gets overpraised and even at times remark about how we don't need vocal for that language because this one does it better. Even now in an age where more and more bilinguals are appearing and proving that a voicebank in the language will knock socks off of one not built for it.

I've never been against a vocaloid that sings in a language it wasn't built for, just against overstatements. Its like my last boyfriend trying to tell me about Vocaloid when I was already editing here and how I ended up showing him up by proving him wrong. Hell when he shows me Project Diva and Miku singing in English, I said to him you can only understand the odd words and I ended up explaining how the process worked. I ven said she wasn't even the best vocaloidand then tried to explin why, but he just turned the game off and aid she is. At that point shutting off on the topic. If he had spoken about something I knew nothing on, as opposed to Vocaloid, I'm sure that wouldn't have gone the way it did.

But a I said to him, Miku only had Japanese, the attempt was just about understandable at times... I'm going to praise a effort, but I'm not going to give it a high standard when there is better.

Plus... ぽっぴっぽー (PoPiPo) is one of those songs...

Regardless, Deztora entered the topic, I half expected him to cherry pick more then he did. Usually that same Yuki song then gets pulled up... A good edit is good edit... But like using Miku for opera... IA can just do that genre better.