Talk:VOCALOID5/@comment-85.237.234.54-20190916103922/@comment-53539-20190916132832

Its been going on since V2 one way or another, if they aren't harping on about one thing they find about to be petty over.

Even down to Vocaloid versus UTAU, I don't take both sides claims seriously and haven't for years now.

But you also get people who have Vocaloids and think because they own them it makes them an expert or they act like it. I think the first time I encountered it was when someone had a go at us for saying the first 3 Ah Software vocals had issues and they were trying to claim otherwise. As I said, who do I believe; hundreds of Japanese users or the 1 westerner saying otherwise. Yet when we do come together we don't always see eye to eye as a whole...Collectively most people agree Sonika is bad... But when you speak to Kagamine fans about older V2 versions there has been some ignorance.

What I find is 1 person speaks and has air of authoritarian and everyone accepts that persons word for it, especially if it seems to make sense. The trouble is with Vocaloid, its harder to prove where flaws and strengths lay because its inaccessible to a lot of people due to price. And too many people are used to hearing the completed songs end of Vocaloid and think that proves everything. And if you argue against something in anything you get only cherry picked results.