Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20151126190829/@comment-26896538-20151230064243

Angel Emfrbl wrote: Can I just establish something here.

FIY; Until 2006, I used rom emulations such as the Megadrive/genesis and I read One Piece manga scans. I got into Pokemon because I admit I had the roms of the games up until Pearl/Diamond.

I'm 31, been to art university and have acquired a "credit where credit is due" policy years. I also understand you need to toss money at things or they don't happen in this world. Its not so much about the law as it is about the support. I understand the consequences of a fandoms collective actions.

I'm also on the fence about legal things and do believe software pirating is good for a product if it leads to actual purchases in the future. In other words, a sacrifice for the sake of a better future. I also know its rare anyone gets in trouble for it, but with a lot of young producers in this fandom any one of them could end up ruining any chance of a career if the wrong word gets out. I cansee all sides to the argument, but I won't be seen supporting it over the legal version 100% and believe everyone should buy it to support the software.

For some Vocaloids, the software is their only of turning profit.

So tell me on a black and white scale, where do I sit again? I think I'm more in the grey, slightly leaning on white" in my personnel opinion right then mostly white. You just born in the mostly clean enviroment,(in terms of "piracy") so you've not seen the more bad-looking situations the world has to offer ;)

Let me tell you what: Up to 6 generation(i mean sixth!) thre was simply No legal videogame industry. At all. It only started with the PS2, but barely, and too expensive back then. Before that, some "pirates" are managed to properly localaise the console games.(in terms of quality). Some of them later made a deal with the officials, and was their off. resellers/importers/distrib. Ive seen several console game clubs that was run on midified consoles and hacked sw... Even nowdays they still exist. There was stores back then that sell illegaly-pressed(often with bad quality) CDs and DVDs (and sold them >5$ each)... Of course nowdays its almost gone from our memories, but the grey area still exist...

Sorry, memories again :P. As what defines me, i was forced to use the "illegal" sw, but around the seven generation, made the switch to the official sw, at least where it posible.(if the prices are justifiable) Nowdays im collecting the old hw and sw (especially console-related) to build some sort of a c+vg museum, for the future generations did not forgot from what they are started for.

Its gonna get too long here,(even for a "flame" theard) so if anyone interested, i can write some lines about theese days of the past....

i was mentioned that you has more clean enviroment than me, but im still try to guess it: Its a light grey, slowly moving to the light side. As of me, im in a lot more dark area, but still in a grey zone(randomly roaming it, due to prices and politics)

Someone was mentioned, that the copy of a sw isnt transferable after putcahase, why they do that? they dont know that pepole would sold it on a sites like ebay and such? Weird and inflexible :/

As for the newcomers: we know that how they can easly follow the wrong road, and being banned by community forever... So why we force them use the different sw?(sure, it too based on a nearly-same method, but its a different sw) and why there are nearly no information on how to use them? I mean we need some sort of a english media(journal, or something web-based) like the one rana was distributed trough. And of couse1-2 small(like the kaai yuki package), but extremly cheap(around or under 50$) vocals suited fo learning.(again like the rana was itself) Yes, it would be a waste of recouces to some, but it brings more pepoole to the franchaise without ever needing them to even know what the term"pokaloid" stands for, and gives them some solid(and legal!) ground and information to start from.

Offtop: in the winter we so missing the sunlight, so im want to share some of mine sunlight with you:

here, and some other there. Sorry if it got some garbage in it, im just learning it :)

Again, happy holidays! :P