Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26213067-20150406152058/@comment-53539-20150409182500

@Honey, Okay I'll list the lo-down of everything we know on Vocaloid sales.

What else we know? Miku is the best selling vocaloid, has sold 60,000+ V2 copies. Kaito sold 500 originally, Meiko over 3,000, Kagamines 20,000 in their first year. But... this is it.

This is what normally we are told;


 * Tone Rion has basically been retired from almost all updates, whereas Mew and other "Yamaha" vocaloids. #
 * Gachapoid had a basic update to V3 and barely got in, so we know he didn't do so well.
 * We know Gumi is a profitable vocal because of how many vocals have been made compared to Gackpoid.
 * We were told that Vocaloid had a increase of 19% sales thanks to Miku V3 and had 10,000 pre-orders.
 * Internet co basically said their in no position to make a male. SBS artech basicallyl said SeeU didn't meet expectations.
 * And we've had it sort of stressed that males aren't selling as well as females several times over the years.

While local sales and international popularity aren't connected, you should also bare in mind that before Miku was sold in America, that she was already getting popular. In addition, Leon, Lola and Miriam were sold in america but were barely known. Also, Zero-G doesn't just sell in the UK, but across europe, so she is being sold world wide, but despite being a good sell still has less then 1,000 DA hits and things like this on other sites. :-/

Basically, as I tried to explain to Otter, popularity with fans should not be treated as the same entity as popularity with sales and the two figures should be treated differently.

Either way... we've been hammered in that males are unpopular and the chances of things changing isn't any time soon. Should we go against the word of the creators? You can't make studios take a risk on a male vocal, just as you can't make them male english vocals, yet the studios have been pushed to change the English market (this Ah software has confirmed). So everyone is stuck, waiting for the right moment to release a male vocal. Internet co is likely waiting for a point where they can take a risk with a big name artist and will be covered if its a failure, remember they work with professionals (exception is Gachapoid) and this means the costs of hiring are higher. :-/