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I'm pretty sure its just Luka's sampels people think were reusd for the Kagamines.

CFM are one of the companies known to re-use samples across their voicebanks. In fact a lot of Vocaloids use samples either previously recorded or from other sources. Miku's provider, however, did undergo training as did the Kagamines. The only ones we don't know are Meiko and Kaito's.

Len and Rin share more or less each others samples. Same with Luka Straight/Soft. Its the two best exmaples of it, though if you search the append extra vocals and the EVEC system, there are lots of examples of it going on.

The thing is, you can take the consonants and change the vowels, or take the vowels and change the consonants, if you know what you are doing... You can re-use a good chunk of old samples to make new voicbanks. The practice has been going on among the companies since V2's days. Though without knowing where to look, you don't notice it. Because of the changes they do make, the voicebanks don't react the same way anyway 100% so it doesn't matter.

Not many studios confirm that vocaloids are re-using old examples, except things like the V2-V3 Megpoid update and some other updates... Lumi was confirmed as not re-using samples from other sources and the 5 new Megpoid vocals of V4 are fresh recordings. The Engloids for the most part may re-use odd things, but each vocaloid is considered a full set of fresh recordings of each provider.

Two translations say that Yuki Kaai was made using one girl or a couple of girls. So Yuki's vocal is or maybe not a example of a vocaloid wherein multiple voiceproviders were used. If true, the two original providers of the first two voiceroids are believed to be the two providers of Yuki. Despite one of them being male, children have very little differences in their voices prior to puberty so the gender of the child isn't ness. important always. This however is just some speculation I read from Japan some time ago. I do feel the more accurate translation may be she has more then one provider, but honestly... I'm not going to say for certain as there is contradictions elsewhere.

To be honest, despite all things, whats gone on with Tianyi could be considered nothing if you think about it.