Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-26213067-20150416144608/@comment-53539-20150416162608

There is no concrete thing about the "-p" status, it was jut a tradition built around the Japanese fandom. I've got a pet peeve at VO for us having mentioned it on the wikia. They misunderstand why its here, its simply to explain where it came from and its origins. There is nothing to stop people using it, but honestly... Its like making a trophy for oneself for winning 1st in a race, without taking part the race to achieve it. Sure you have a trophy, but you didn't earn it.

I think my biggest pet peeve is just the at individuals in the western fandom who simply can't understand that Japanese vocaloids aren't market, nor made, for them. So when they jump on the lack of male vocals, or have a go at high pitched vocals, or super-moe designs... Its all sad because this isn't meant to be aimed at anything but a culture where this is pretty much the normal.

You want to criticize a vocaloid and 'have your opinion matter, you have Engloids like Avanna. Yet rather then supporting them, they focus on the Japanese vocaloids thanks to the weaboos in the fandom because "everything Japan does is awesome compared to what America (or any other country) does".

It sort of brings me back to my days as a general anime fan when I CONSTANTLY people going on about how "great" Japanese animation was. Yet most folks stuck to the super-moe stuff and things that were popular and didn't venture back in time to read stuff like Ranma 1/2. There were LOTS of great series that the general anime/manga fandom didn't pay much attention to and its a shame.

I mean... I was once given the "O_O" expression when I said I loved the Devil Man movies and manga.... So violence and nudity were present, big deal... These days rappers turn out things in their songs which are far more violent or whatever in an attempt to sound tough. Besides, the more you read, the less you focus on it and the more you focus on the story.

In reality, a lot of fans just sticking to the CFM vocaloids aren't 100% vocaloid fans but just CFM fans. But I said this 3 years ago... Still.. Seeing the "where is the males?" question end up in a interview with the guy from Interent co, was annoying because it stank of this same problem. It reminds me a lot of sonic fans who say "Sonic doesn't need a storyline" or Mortal Kombat fans saying "MK only works in 2D". After a while, it gets just dull... Yeah... "We heard you the first time".

Yeah, not only are Japanese vocaloids not aimed at your western fandom, but the studios KNOW WHAT THEIR DOING and the limitations you have. If Internet co says they can't do a male, it means they aren't in a position to task a risk yet. But at least they want to do it... ¬_¬