Talk:Kagamine Rin & Len/@comment-37896274-20190521202038/@comment-53539-20190522102821

I disagree with Vocaloids not needing Appends, I just think that 2-3 myself is enough. Whenever I look at the Luka EVEC and Megpoid V4 sections, I feel that its a waste of time. Take for example, Miku herself. Out of all her voicebanks, the most used are the normal vocal and Dark. The others rarely get used and Light/Vivid are no longer getting updated. The idea of extra voicebanks is to give a different approach to the same vocal and give a very different result with the same vocal in mind. IT can work out really well, but it only fails when you offer just too much variety. Most producers only use 2-5 vocals maximum at any one point and most Vocaloid songs are written with just one voicebank or two per Vocaloid.

Its extremely hard to voice act and do other languages, especially for non-native speakers, there is suspect that some of Luka's samples were used to "cheat". There are actually quite a number of Vocaloids who have samples re-used for other sources and CFM are known to do this. This is why LUMi made a big deal of not doing that for her voicebank. We can't write anything on the page for suspected sample re-users without proof, but we can note how the Kagamines have Luka-like samples that misbehave.

CFM takes the most short cuts with non-Japanese voicebanks, but bare in mind at the same time... We're not actually the ones aimed at. CFM produces English vocals so their producers can break into the western market. I won't say their the best or worst company, because what they do works and so far their Japanese following is solid enough.

With the Kagamines, there are always extra issues like Len and Rin being so split that they can't sound like each other, which actually limits what can be done with them. Unlike Luka and Miku which have a lot more freedom to their vocals.