Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20180322113157/@comment-53539-20180504163810

The one at VO where everyone got to vote "on the worst studio" and I was laughing because PowerFX is hardly the worst studio? Then yes, just as Voca's response on Flower and the usage of English quoted many V2 myths. I'm just fed up with the fandoms at times after 8 years that it could be so petty like this and not actually paying attention to the reality. The reality still is on Ruby Ander's messed up, PowerFX and Syo are the victims, and that Misha stirred the nest. PowerFX were not to blame, as they were getting a vocaloid that they thought they could sell to EDM users as they please. Yet when we discuss bad studios in that very topic, we were noting about SBS artech's nightmarish handling of SeeU's promotion, the Chinese vocaloid's Yanhe incident, etc, etc.

Basically, time and time again, we're seeing the same problems come up. We're seeing improvements from fans but not in ways and areas I'd like to see. We shouldn't be seeing at this some of this.

A lot of the drama is caused by people's inability to really sit there and wait patiently for things to resolve themselves.

Boycott's to me are silly as you could miss out on the best of something. ITs like those who boycott Sony because of their treatment of singers and other musicians, they basically short change them and all that. But if Sony was to go under, that's 1 less company who provides a chance for said artists to find work and promotion with. In other words, to resolve one problem and "punish" a company you end up creating another problem. Plus so many things are made by Sony that am all out boycott of their company means you miss out on so much technology they cover, furthermore then have companies they own which don't carry the "Sony" name so you can unwittingly buy a "Sony" product.

Often its all pettiness and its frustrating to deal with it. One shouldn't see the same things over and over again turning up in the Vocaloid fandom nor fans knee-jerk reactions to things.

Then there is the instant assumption that PowerFX left the Vocaloid game over Ruby. No they didn't. Even if you read Status, I noticed that in 2013 it was noted that they were focusing on Soundation then, in other words they have been for 4 years, and Bil had confirmed Soundation was being focused on after Ruby for a while. Bil had other Vocaloids planned and hadn't given up on the software just because of the fans reactions to Ruby, so everyone has once again jumped to conclusions without knowing the truth of the matter. Literally the difference between PowerFX making vocaloids and not was apparently it seems Bil. Soundation is earning PowerFX a lot more profit then most other things they are doing.

Shrugs

ITs hard to forget the things that happened at VO forums at times because VO left such a sour taste... As I said a lot of the basis of a lot of the research I did especially early on was based on the frustration as provided to me via VO forums. Every time they made a bogus claim, I did research and looked it up.

Anyway enough of that, lets draw the line. - IF your going to have a wikia that covers all things related to a subject, you basically can't afford to skip a topic. Its like describing an elephant based on only its feet, tail, trunk or ear and not the entirety of the animal. The trunk is different to the foot which is different to the tail which is different to the ear. There are going to be things as a wiki we can't do, the manga wikias for example can't upload entire chapters onto their pages, only fragments and odd pictures software wikias can't link to illegal downloads. But we can talk about and create related pages to things based on our subject freely. If we can make a decent page, any related subject could be made.

If you boycott the Chinese vocaloids in question, you basically ignore part of whats going on in Vocaloid and then have a ignorance on the subject. We can teach so much more and explain the situation if we cover then, rather then ignoring it. We can explain there is a boycott, we can explain the source of boycott, but to boycott them ourselves would be ridiculous. You just wouldn't be able to explain all of this.

I'd rather have a page on Pocaloid and cover XSY modding then ignore these practices go on. It gives us a chance to explain why people do these things and why its bad, leaving the fans to come to their own conclusions on if they should or shouldn't.

Saying that, I do understand at the end of the day, fans are human beings... Its hard to feel confident when you've been screwed over once. And that guy almost cost Chinese vocaloids more vocals. His impact on Chinese vocaloids makes me even surprised Yamaha is dealing with him, reputation noted. Unless they simply just don't care about what he is done and are only looking at the money.