Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-53539-20160707115408/@comment-29714788-20160707190926

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''There's the "Moe" Voicebanks, ones that are almost always trying to get to the Otaku audience, with their completely voice acted vocals. Bonus points if the mascot is shorter than 5' 6" and wears a mini skirt''

Okay first...what exactly does the mascot have to do with the voice? You do realize that most women are shorter than 5'6" because the average woman is 5'4" tall? Also, voice acting is a choice for the vocal direction to emulate a character's voice, it's not like they're trying to get their voice to sound identical to each other. Rana and Unity-chan do sound similar but not every voice acted vocal does, if anything voice acting makes a vocal sound more distinct. If Gumi wasn't voice acted, she would sound just like the other female mezzo-soprano vocals.

''Then, there's the Japanese Soprano, these voicebanks are high-mid range vocals that when you put them all together, you can barely tell who is who by tone. Bonus points if the mascot has ever been accused of "stealing" Miku's design''

If you can "barely tell who is who by tone" then you're not familiar with the vocals, because Kokone, Miku, IA, and VY1 are all sopranos and sound virtually nothing like each other. It shouldn't matter what the fandom thinks of the design, and Miku's design isn't that original in the first place. If they're "stealing Miku's design" because they happen to have zettai ryouiki or a school uniform then you might as well as say that every anime character is copying Miku.

''Thirdly, there's the mid-range female. That's all to say, really, female, mature, midrange. Bonus points if the mascot has big boobaloos''

There are women in real life who have large breasts, do you think every real woman is flat-chested or something? Go outside.

''Lastly, there is the gimmicky male. These are Vocaloids that have multiple voicebanks at a extremely low price at their initial release. The dev teams just throw in multiple voicebanks because they're afraid that the Vocaloid itself won't sell well, strictly because it's a Male vocal. Bonus points if it's voice provider is a pre-established musician/idol.''

What does this say about the voice itself being generic? Again, nothing. It's just the way the Vocaloid is marketed, which is pretty much necessary for them to sell successfully. The companies aren't throwing in the extra voicebanks because they're afraid it won't sell well due to being a male vocal. It's because statistically speaking, male vocals relatively sell worse than female vocals. How famous the voice provider is has absolutely nothing to do with whether a voice is unique or not.

Personally I don't really think of character design when determining if a Vocaloid is generic or not...but in my opinion Miku and the other Crypton Vocaloids have the most generic designs out of them all. I really don't understand why people accuse every Vocaloid who shares one design trait with Miku to be "copying her" when Miku's design wasn't even that unique in the first place.

For me a generic voice is one like Galaco, Merli, Chika, Anon, or Kanon. I don't get why everyone worships Merli because "ZOMG POC REPRESENTATION!!1!11one!" when her voice literally sounds like every female V3 combined. Vocaloids like Mew or Yukari are not generic to me because although their voice types are common by now, at the times of their releases they weren't.