Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30602727-20141217001901/@comment-53539-20180403162005

For me its still the Megpoid V4 release that turned the whole situation around. What really warrants a update? What makes said update worth it? What does it add? I got criticised in the V3 era for saying a update which expands the Vocaloid into a new language can often be better then an Append, but this was in reflection of certain vocals being released in early V3. If the update didn't really expand the overall capabilities of the vocaloid, ie Megpoid V4, then its not really that impressive. Especially compared to the Una update. When it boils down to it, owning Megpoid native and any of the other Internet vocals, likely is a better choice then all 10 Megpoid voicebanks.

I understand why the extra Vocals for Megpoid exist as they pretty are to fix the issue with the limited flexibility of the original V2 vocal... But... I'd just rather own Una or Kokone, or both, and have done with it at least point.

The ones also I've been super critical of is the V4x range. Its mostly down to the fact of EVEC currently needing more work. I know when I criticised Luka V4x at VO forums, everyone turned on me as is "how dare you speaketh ill of our queen Luka" almost attitude. But... The EVEC range to me isn't yet good, its an idea, yes, but its a START of a good idea not the finalised product. It needs more work to fix issues with quality, as right now its a bunch of presets and it goes for, in regards to Luka mostly, quantity over quality. Which is not good. I wish the guys at VO had actually listened to what I had to say instead of getting on their high horses and dismissing things. Take away EVEC... And you have a Luka product update that wasn't that much too. Two vocals barely different to each other, one softer and one harder, and neither of them like Luka V2 at all. This wasn't the update the Luka fans deserved at all in my opinion after waiting for so long and it felt like a cop out.

The worst update this generation overall just felt like the Kagamines... They needed 1 more vocal each at least to bring up their options for their vocals to where Luka and Miku stood.

It pretty much says it all when the best vocal ends up being Miku. And that's sad... As Miku just isn't my cup of tea and others.

I'm not even sure the update to VY1 was all that worth it. To me the best update this generation fell onto all the AH Software vocaloids. Once they had their XSY group on top of it, plus the later English group added (thanks to Nana), it pretty much has left their entire catalog of vocaloids (save Yuki) stand out from the others.

Though the largest XSY group in internet co... Unless your going to Una, Kokone and Gackpo, the rest is optional. To me, these 3 are the essenitals of the group and the others... Well have 1 of Gumi's packages or the entire group, Gachapoid for experimentation and either Cul or Lily. Kokona and Una you own for their ranges and the impact they make on others in the group, Gackpo you buy for masculine tones. This makes the 3 very important to the XSY group, and no matter whom else you get, you've got to get these 3. so you either buy 1 package for Gumi or the lot, gachapoid if you want experimentation and either Cul or Lily, but not ness. both, and Chika if you don't go for Gumi. That's 4 vocaloids that I classify as non-essential and Gackpo will be replaced if Internet ever makes a better male.

With AH software, their vocals tend to stand out more even when they have similar ranges like miki and Iroha do. So owning all of them tends to be really helpful compared to owning all the Internet co, their vocals have a lot more difference between the characters and there is less of a situation like the one with Chika/Gumi/Kokone, wherein even if they don't sound the same, the 3 are intended to be the same voice type. If I was buying Vocaloids, I'd just go with the Ah software vocals. On top of that, at VO forums, everyone pretty much said that AH software is also one of the better studios, so they have a reasonable rep, which even CFM doesn't have due to some of their things (like ignoring Sweet Ann or wording Miku's "first" status to have no room for someone to shout "Sweet Ann" in a crowd).