Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-32988707-20180128173444/@comment-53539-20180205111407

2601:601:1580:5DF1:BDB6:7FAA:78E3:3514 wrote: Please can we please have an English Vocaloid release without 100lbs of drama attached for once. The Vocaloid Ruby drama was started by the fandom harassing PowerFX directly and now, the company has withdrawn out of the vocaloid business forever. We could have sent suggestions instead of accusations and flaming them of "white-washing" ruby's design and being racist towards People of Color. Just like this announcement for a new project, it's absolutely sad to see people would slander flame the development team without even seeing proof of the full tweet. Their pulling out of Vocaloid has nothing to do with Ruby, despite the drama she did as well as any vocaloid before her from PowerFX.... Which was bad.

http://www.vocaloidotaku.net/index.php?/topic/71726-bestworst-vocaloid-company/page__view__findpost__p__1397676

I wrote about the incident here so you can read that. I will add also the main reason I feel they left. They had a product called Sound Station (Soundation?) that is doing well and getting in a bigger profit versus Vocaloid and its low profit money bringing. They have been working on it for a while for this reason, and the guess from me is since it gets the most profit they want to drop vocaloid to focus on this for a reason.

The majority buying vocaloid in the west are EDM users. They don't buy nearly enough vocaloids. Zero-G was in the same position as PowerFX back prior to Avanna. In fact Avanna did well and the fandom didn't even know since there was barely any fan art of her. Meanwhile SeeU was popular and apparently didn't do so well. Its just the way things are... Even in Japan most of the buyers of vocaloid? Were the DTM (its a magazine that no longer is in print) producers, which is why the magazine used to get so most attention from companies and ran a lot of vocaloid articles.

Even when it boils down to the anime-esque boxarts, this is because its want fans want, but it ness. what the EDM users will be impressed with. So the need to please fans and the need to get the EDM lot to buy more vocaloids, becomes a real kicker for studios.

VO wasn't involved with Giuseppe... That was the Spanish fandom, we were not guilty of anything. Gius was the one behind the two Spanish vocaloids and when the Spanish fandom started being hissy he pulled them. He had a reputation of being like that though... Even came to the wikia here claiming we didn't know what we were talking about and Bruno/Clara were fine. Reality is a little different.

A lot of the Spanish stuff was to do with Luan, but there was a chunk who also didn't want another Spain-Spanish vocaloid, which also miffed Gius as "Spain Spanish is the correct Spanish!" which is something I've seen here in the UK as it happened (I.e. "British English is the correct English, American English is wrong"...Eh... I don't want to touch this one with a 10ft pole... =_='). There was also things like his own research into making Japanese vocaloids speak Spanish thrown at him like "why do we need Spanish Vocaloids when Japanese vocaloids do Spanish fine" but I'm honestly not going to get into this one... We've had this with English and Japanese.

Honestly, Luan and Lucia is part the fans fault, but mostly Giuseppe being Giuseppe and over reacting. He really belittled vocaloid fans and generally was not pleasant. In some respects, while I'll miss PowerFX I don't really miss Giuseppe, he made good cover music but if the music is good but the producer not... Then I'd rather have a poor music piece and a good producers.

Vivi isn't cancelled, just on hiatus. She is basically done and they just need a company.