Talk:Chika/@comment-181.59.12.144-20141002035322/@comment-53539-20141006164901

@Fingers: In theory, yes, in practically, it still leaves some with the idea that Maika is suddenly a "miracle vocal" that can do omni-lingual levels of language. I.e. those guys at VO forums, one of them said "Maika is capable of better English then the english vocals", which we ALL know by now is BS and is annoying whenever this comes out. Because they try and pull the wool over everyone's eyes by showing the best of what Maika does, ignoring the mass of failed attempts at english.

Languages for Vocaloids means that you can take that vocaloi and instantly, without fiddling, get better results then taking another from a language and forcing them to sing that language.

When you have people who swear blindly that a vocal is better then it is, it takes away the value of real value of that vocal and turns it into a lie. Maika is a nice vocal with a few extra phonetic data that lets her do more then you bargain for, but will not produce as good as results as a vocal produced for that language.

Also, Sonika at her core still only has English phonetics. Apart from Rolling "R" sound, she has the same number of inputted data as sweet Ann only SeeU and Maika have more then you need for language sounds in a vocal. Zero-G never sound her as "a vocal that can do all languages", all they did was state the obvious, that you can use her to make other languages with manipulation. Thi was taken the wrong way by the fandom, as she is the only one with this sort of thing on her product page, but they were trying to stress that Engloids can be used to make other languages to highlight the merits of their Vocaloids and grab attention. It backfired, yeah... Big Time. But they never dressed Sonika up to be something she isn't, in terms of language... Other things... Yeah... But not this. :-/

All that was the extras for her was vowels, its similar to Chika here, the phonetics are triphonetic data, which Vocaloid already automatically uses, but has diphonetics instead to cover those triphonetic sounds. This means automatically she will be leaps and bounds smoother.

Either way, the fact remains, its become typical in this fandom anyway that people try and make vocals better then they are anyway. Its easy to do, especially when you have people who can be completely against chunks of the franchise (ie.e. Korean and Engloids get hate, SeeU got it from Japan and Engloids get it from the likes of anti-engloid fans even now). :-/