Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26369619-20150718151803/@comment-92.0.136.234-20150729112635

A lot of them just are misinformed, on DA I came across someone who didn't relise you had to buy the software. Most of the time it comes from teenagers or young adults who don't see the consquences, or can afford, to buy the software. People don't acknowledge the consquences of their actions because its rare they get punished for it. :-/

In the UK I know from a close encounter from a friend that owning these things is not wrong, its selling/spreading the things around is when you become liable to be trialed by the law. So bare this in mind, that the law isn't so complex and simple at times. This is why I stress about if you must do this keep it privte 100% for your own pleasure.

Saying that with UTAU and other software in existence, there is little justifiction either way as if one has no money one should live within ones means.... UTAU has many flaws but it has advantages over Vocaloid. Rather then lecturing someone on Vocaloid illegl stuff, I always prefer to focus on UTAU as an alternetive. Its better for both communties.

I've been in enough fandoms to know you can't convince someone who doesn't see whats wrong in their actions. There is always 1 person who takes what they can from the fandom and gives 0% back into it. Selfish as it is I'd rather focus on the GOOD fans who "getit". :-/

Also yeah, experiences has taught me you are best just not telling anyone you're banning their songs from the wikia. You always get someone who rallys their supporters. We don't hide we ban the use of it and it shouldn't come as a surprise when someone's work is not featured. But seriously, the rallying of supporters is a pain because often their more stupid then the person they are supporting (not literally, metaphorically stupid, as in they are showing blind protesting over something which is morally wrong to begin with). I'd rather just ban the song(s)/producer(s) quietly then talk to these guys for hours beating their brains with a brick trying to explain THE SAME thing over and over again. IT doesn't sink in and its a waste of our time which we can use for better things.

As I keep saying, the ban on Pocaloid protects us as editors and the wikia itself, but dont forget its there to also protect those who do do this from thier own actions, be it foolish or stupid. If their dumb about their use of Pocaloid, that fine, but lets not be the ones to rally the troops against them. Its better if they get copyright strikes against them on sites like youtube, as this will have far more impact then harassment. Harassment just clues them up and sends them into hiding evidence. So you should be aware there is always more then one way to tackle the issue of illegal vocaloid usage, especially if the person has copyrighted works (Lady Gaga, etc) in their channel... :-/

-Angel Emfrbl