Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-153.107.193.205-20170322004502/@comment-53539-20170415100723

This makes me annoyed that this continues on...

The wikias problems;

You have no idea what people try to insert on pages, which is why some of us get a bit edgy on some topics. Its the problem of having a wiki "anyone can edit". Its a big advantage, as people aren't forced to sign up to edit, but it comes with the price of anyone can try and make their fantasy a reality. For a while, during the early V3 promos, someone snuck in a line for IA's page that stayed for a few months. Due to the chaos of having everything unveiled randomly in large chunks, it wasn't spotted, and even AtH copied it into his 'History of the Vocaloids' series on Youtube. And then was the people who attempted to write a forced item for characters... Which had a number of edits occur jut for that reason alone at the time.

use a dictionary!

"Mislabeled" pretty much describes it, look up the world in the dictionary!

Its the same as using words like "Transvestite", I had someone once have a go at me for using the word when I was repeating the story here. but I couldn't use any other word then "Transvestite". If our reporting on something, then your selection of words can often be limiting. we don't always have the pleasure of using alternative words. you might want us to, but its like reporting on what the Japanese were saying... sadly, the word translated comes out closest to the word we ended up being forced to use. If you change the word, the meaning of the new word is not always the same or conveys the same meaning. This is the biggest issue we have with Flower, we just don't have the pleasure of using better words.

On the issue of discrimination;

Stereotyping is considered a form of discrimination. So if she were real, forcing upon your opinion on her like that would be considered a form of discrimination, the thing you like right? So the best way to counter one form of discrimination is with another??? Isn't the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right" sort of going to be in play in regards to that.

Poor representation in Vocaloid?

As for the poor representation... this is a general problem with a minority group. Consider the majority of people aren't bi, then popular culture tends to end up reflecting it. Lets put it this way, in the entire local town I live in, I know 1 guy who wears dresses, but isn't gay nor wanting to be a woman. I'm dyslexic myself, and while that is common, only 1 out of 10 people suffer from it. So I' a minority group. I don't expect every show, media outlet, to opening represent my group. just as its like asking Hollywood to use common people, as oppose to handsome and beautiful people as stars in their films.

On top of that, note as well that some areas such as kids cartoons, avoid it because they really don't want to bring up the controversy surrounding it. I was surprised when Home had a "boy-boy-girl" alien, but note... Its a alien and not a human. You see why I'm highlighting it? Yeah, sure it sucks to be in a minority group either way... But the minority groups don't run the show, the majority groups do which is why things like that. you can change that by getting to a position where you can alter the media, hell Family Guy is basically a political insert for its development team. But you change anything by complaining your poorly represented.

And you won't achieve anything but coming to this wikia and doing so because we're forced to report on Vocaloids. we can't do anything ourselves. The vocaloids, producers, software, etc is what it is. We have 0 power to change any of the facts.

And finally.. Headcanon... may I speak as someone whose been in a number of fandoms since 1998/1999... And encountered numerous headcanons.

I know there is the whole "headcanon is just that", but there are points headcanon can be dangerous and its not safe to presume it has no consequences of it existing on a wide scale. I ask you, if you have to force re-write some of the few facts each vocaloid has, do you really like the character for who they are?If you said "yes2, okay go into the street, find someone you now and "rewrite them". Tell me what happens, I want to know how they feel about you trying to force write a living person.

I'll make it clear; just as with derivatives I'm not against them... Hell, I have my on "headcanons" but they are few and all have been within the few details that we have of the Vocaloid facts. Its simple to do... and rewrites none of the facts. I'm no write, so I won't write fanficition and spread my ideas, because i don't want people to think my ideas are fact like that. i'd rather people form their own ideas.

Now you can rewrite a character, but the trouble is the majority of fanfiction isn't set up with the right feeling. For example, kagamine Len, is "Len from Vocaloid". one of the advantages that Daughter of Evil had, is it rewrote the characters, but within its own bubble. Len wasn't "Len from Vocaloid" he was his own character in his own world and existed as his own persona with his own mind. To me, fanfiction should be like that all the time. if its "Len from Vocaloid", then right him as "Len from Vocaloid", not "Len from my corrupt fantasy of his character". :-?