Talk:MEIKA Hime & Mikoto/@comment-35524413-20191122005650/@comment-53539-20191122150513

Actually Piko sounds masculine... And its been an issue people have had since day 1 of his release. They were expecting less definite traits and as a price, Piko's always been better in a young masculine vocal role rather then attempting female.

A better couple of vocals may have been Iroha or Flower.

I don't know, technically as Vocaloids, VY1 and VY2 have no genders, though their voicebanks are male and female. So your meant to treat that pair how you want. So this is somewhat the way I guess your also suppose to treat these two.

The issue with male vocals falls down to the issues with the Japanese Vocaloid fandom. Its always been a male dominated sector. So males sell less well compared to females. If these two had been male... You'd basically be looking at a package expected to do less well overall. If you look back as far as Kaito, Kaito pretty much stated his failure was related to the DTM magazine audience being 80% male based, and this impacted future releases. CFM had no male vocal planned when they entered the Vocaloid scene in V2 with Miku, Rin and Luka and there is indications originally Len wasn't even a thing first put on the table. This has been an issue for years about Japanese Vocaloid.

In contrast, English Vocaloids never had such a situation, the vocals either do as well as each other when you give producers both a male or female, or the male actually does slightly better. But in China, they follow suit with the same as Japanese and whats reported is once again females do better then males. So this is really a cultural thing.

When you have to pay licensing fees to produce a Vocaloid, and its not expected to sell so well... Well... You get the problems you have now. The reasoning these two likely have been not really gendered was not to restrict the vocals, if they had been trying to avoid being called a "Kagamine clone", which to be honest they are somewhat in their shared direction of a female and boyish sounding pair. IF we're going to point at these two and use that against them, then its pointless as we're in a period where picking on a Vocaloid for doing something a past Vocaloid has done is pointless... Because by this point, yeah, most Vocaloids either sound like past Vocaloids are have designs influence by them, even these two but its Flower whose made by the same company. And the Kagamines are leaving some point after 2020. In short, its petty.