Talk:Status/@comment-37.142.146.92-20150118165648/@comment-53539-20150118175125

But there's no such thing as a unisex voice, Len and Ryuto are character vocals so I think it needs to be looked upon in a different way, if they didn't have avatars though I think they could be listed as feminine as well. The terms unisex and feminine or masculine are two terms that contradict each other so I think it's wrong to put it this way. I think it's the same as stating a voice is both feminine and masculine... idk I can't really explain what I mean, but I think I got my point across, sort of...


 * 1) in regards to the "unisex",bare in mind Flower's voice is "androgynous" and a childs genders can't be told apart by their voice alone at times.
 * 2) If we list Len and Ryuto as "female" we then have to spend the next decade or so explaining why, its easier just to say the vocaloids intended gender despite the voice not being from someone of that gender. In both cases, Ryuto and Len are intended to be unrealisitc voices, in other words its a form of dubbing. In voice dubbing, people don't always voice characters of the same gender, see Luffy from One Piece (woman doing a male voice) or Goldie Delicious from My Little Pony Friendship is Magic (male doing a old woman voice).
 * 3) The voice in bracket is to note that the voice is "masculine" despite there being no voclaoid mascot. The "unisex" is to note the gender of the Vocaloid itself is open to suggestion.  The VY series were made to be whatever a producer wanted them to be.  Plus "unisex" seems to be the only way the western fans understand the concept behind the VY series... See Roro, we've spent forever and a day explaining Roro isn't the avatar of VY2 and why it is wrong to always use him as the rep of the voice. The VY series' concept is always difficult for fans to fully understand and accept.  :-/