Talk:OSTER project/@comment-2.51.245.3-20120620144342

about your core points in the post — it seems very canny on the part of Crypton or wvoheer to create an enduring anime-style icon to capitalize on what you call the otaku world's deep response to personification and characterization of products, but I have to think there's probably a little happy accident element at work here too. I mean, who could have guessed it'd catch on this level?When you start talking about lyrics and such I think it's tough to keep on track because ironically, it's a divergence: the actual musical content is inextricably tied to the phenomenon but, it's also a different thing. At the end of the day when it comes to content Vocaloids are a tool like any other instrument. But for some reason, you can't remove Miku from anime culture. Supercell is a perfect example: Ryo is probably one of the more famous Vocaloid music artists, and from day one his band  has involved more doujin artists than musicians. The story of Black Rock Shooter would be a pretty cool one outside of this context (guy is inspired by a picture to write a song, uses Vocaloid for his performance, musician and artist end up collaborating on multimedia projects in the future) but in its context (while still neat) it makes me shrug a little because it's all steeped in this anime/otaku pop culture when I think there is potential to be so much more. Maybe otaku are just the type of people who naturally gravitate to idols anyway, and they finally have their  idol, for reasons both obvious (she's a cartoon) and deeper (the sexualizing/desexualizing stuff you talk about in your response to me).Because of all this I get excited when I hear Martin talk about wanting to use Luka, simply because I would love to hear one of the anime-mascot Vocaloids used in a context that is removed from Nico Nico, Pixiv, anime, etc.