Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20180322113157/@comment-7882956-20180409055457

To add on, Beijing Photek doesn't even explain why they went with water for the second vocal. They just did. As for the Chinese fandom, they seem to like her regardless and while us Westerners can have our own opinions about it, the Chinese opinions are more valued because that's their own market. If that's how Beijing Photek wants to deal with their vocals, then that's fine. If that's what the Chinese wants or don't mind, that's fine. Beijing Photek isn't going to just not work with Haiyi just because of LUMi or Una. It's coincidential and tbh, it's not going to bother the Chinese fans (if anything, they might see it as cute). Haiyi might not be unique in themes with VOCALOID as a whole, but she is for the Chinese branch of VOCALOID. I think we're very used to seeing things as a whole for the western fandom, that sometimes we don't always think of them as their own things. This is why I often don't see the big deal about "x vocaloid is like y vocaloid" (in themes, design, voice, etc) when they're catered to two different markets and I'm just not viewing everything as a whole. If something exists in one market, that doesn't mean it exists in another.

And I hate to bring up this can of worms, but this was also a problem with Luan and Lucia in terms of what the main market thinks vs what the rest of the fandom thinks. People who didn't understand Spanish or didn't know someone in the Spanish fandom wouldn't know the issues or needs as well as a native would. While the rest of the fandom could grasp that Lucia didn't sound unique to the other females, they still couldn't grasp that despite Luan being only a second male voice that's entirely different from Bruno's, it's not what the main market wanted (especially considering who voiced him). At that point, it doesn't matter how unique the voice is. Spanish doesn't have a lot of vocals to begin with, so it's very important for new VOCALOID languages to get on solid ground before they start experimenting with things the market probably doesn't want/expect. Because if you're not giving them what they want, they're not going to buy it and it's backfiring. It's basically asking to fail from the start.

Not only that, and I mean no disrespect to anyone who was in the thread to begin with, but people who didn't know Spanish were basically asking for the situation to be spelled out numerous times and some of the Spanish fans were trying to explain, only to get buried with 15 more "what's happening/i don't get why they don't like this/why is the spanish fandom so childish" comments or the same person who asked basically saying things like "oh, but they shouldn't act like that". Like I said, it's okay for fans outside of the market to have opinions, but we need to understand and remember that what we want isn't what the main market wants and we can't expect the main market to be accepting everything that's being shown to them. The comments that genuinely bothered me the most out of the thread usually revolved around "they should just appreciate that there's more spanish vocaloids being produced for them". Why should they? Why should anyone just sit there and be happy about something they genuinely are not happy about? Like honestly, if there was an English VOCALOID that the English market doesn't like, they'll go wild about it. Why is it not okay for the Spanish/Chinese/Korean/Japanese fans to not be happy about what they were given? I think about this stuff a lot honestly...