User blog comment:Fingersoop/Someone linked me to an illegal Vocaloid download host/@comment-3076833-20140526180320/@comment-53539-20140528112832

@Angel Emfrbl I never said it was safe. I just thought it was cool. Besides, many represented producers here on the wiki use pirated Vocaloid with no consequence, while I myself do not. All I do is provide information, which I must repeat, is often wrong here on the wiki. And while this is no one's fault, any attempt to fix or educate on how Vocaloid operates is usually met with hostility. If you're wondering why so much anger is present in 'information hubs' for Vocaloid (like VO or this wiki), you need only to look at how you deal with anything that is slightly different from the established norm. When I say 'you', I don't mean you specifically Angel, although you have been known to be very hostile and indignant at times. I was honestly shocked at how the "Character Items" thread was handled. Sure, I've done some stupid things, but at least I try to treat people with dignity and respect.

No one denies the information is useful to anyone and I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes here on there on the wikia. There are still many, many, more mistakes made elsewhere, we get given information in limited supply... Between the langauge barriers and the lack of talk about Vocaloid from Yamaha, we can't do much. This information is indeed vital to fans anywhere. However, we're not suppose to be peeking at files or anything like this, its not illegal, its not forbidden, but its also a bit if and ums.... I kinda tried to explain this before... :-/

We've said it before here on the wiki, so long as we don't know the user is Pocaloiding, we don't do anything about it. If a Producer is known to Pocaloid and proof is found, they are banned instantly from the wikia and can never be linked to again. We are not a police force so don't go around policing videos, but we can't be seen to support pirating either, nor do we necessary have to be seen to pretend it doesn't go on. Nor do we want a witch hunt at this point either. I remember when we had a open blacklist of producers we didn't link to, it only caused drama, but it was done for editors sake so we didn't get in trouble, but it caused too much trouble + drama...

Some wikias try and do things and get away with it, but honestly? Its not worth the risk as a wiki can be shut down if its doing stuff it shouldn't be.

Whatever the case maybe, we have less leyway with dealing with illegal Vocaloid then what VO has. VO just has to banned linking to it... Even if editors don't necessary 100% disagree with the use of illegal vocaloid, the wikia itself is a different matter.

Links should be passed via PM, not comments on a youtube video, because one is private and the other in the public domain. Its also why this link is a bad thing. When people do what the op is talking about, they run the risk of themselves getting targeted by anyone like that. So its important to explain this to them. It protects them, it protects anyone clicking the link, it keeps the peace. Compared to what you've seen here at the wikia or at VO, it doesn't take much for the internet to turn into a hell and you'll see far, far worst in the public domains then on forums or wikias.

On a personnel note... @Planty yourself.

I'm not going to justify anyones reasons for snarling at folks... Overall, apart from rudeness, you've actually gotten off lightly yourself since your still here interacting with fans within the vocaloid community.

In the Dragon Cave fandom (for an example), I've seen users driven out of the community just for calling a bunch of pixels that look like a dragon "ugly". It was called "the retirement of the Frilled dragons", which pretty much saw anyone with any issue against any artist get scared or bullied out of the community by the artist and her white knights.

It makes you look very lucky in comparison... >_<