User blog comment:Angel Emfrbl/Defending Miku English/@comment-25147000-20141012162648/@comment-53539-20141012180639

Besides English vocals aren't all THAT realistic to begin with.

You really should avoid statements like this either way as because if they are taken as standalone comments, they just don't end up being true either way.

Bare in mind realism in regards to the vocal your mentioned (Miku) isn't the purpose of the vocal itself nor is it impossible to achieve even then. Other vocals (like Gackpo) went with realism but didn't always achieve them (miki was considered quite realistic at the time of release).

Going back to the reactions and thought of Japanese fans... They often felt their vocals weren't as realistic not only because of just design, but because as native speakers they could more easily pick out the faults of their own Vocaloids. They couldn't with English Vocals. It was the other way around for the English speakers, only things were a lot more lopsided since we didn't have a established producer userbase and there was a lot of misconceptions about Vocaloids both Japanese and English in 2009... Still is.

The other issue is, a lot of the time people mistake good editing/tuning for "good Vocaloid" and this tends to be something that impacts realism as well. Consider that auto tuning is about taking a realistic human vocal and making it less realistic, then similarity you can take an unrealistic vocal and make it more realistic with the correct techniques. This also makes the dabate on realism a lot harder to take. With English vocaloid, Spanish, Korean... There is the issue of the small producer user-base, and it often takes a 100 songs produced before 1 decent song is made. Establish that, as of 2012 (I think) there was 100,000+ Miku songs and 40,000+ of them being originals... That means approx 1,0090 at least had to be "decent" if the rating was 1 for every 100. If the same formula is applied to English vocals, some at any stage will have less then 100 songs to their name. This means you may find yourself just waiting for ages for that 1 song you like or that is decent enough to be on par with the Japanese vocaloids.

Some producers also don't always want realism anyway... Avanna was made to sound a lot more robotic in Sad Machine.