Talk:Yowane Haku/@comment-99.225.32.36-20120813015835/@comment-53539-20120818102820

Not quite the same.

In this case there are Miku songs that share the range, Haku has no offical range herself or voice and so long as you use miku you could Achieve Haku a multple of ways and she won't nessecary sound the same as what most are used to. Remember, Haku was the character people invented to represent BAD Miku songs, this is her origin and that much cannot be changed. The depressed voiced version you hear was made popular only a few particular songs. Otherwise Haku would have stayed this way.

On top of this are Miku songs in this range.

And unlike in real life by saying you dislike Miku your pretty much saying you dislike the vocalist entirely, since you don't like the voicebankj. Miku herself is still Miku no matter what octave you throw her in, so Mijku is Miku is Mikuis Miku. :-/

Yeah, I accept people have different opinions, but people liking Haku and hating Mikuy pretty much is just a contradiction. What I suppose your intended to implying is Miku is only herself when she sings in her normal voice unaltered? This would be again like saying the Voice actor isn't the voice actor unless their speaking in their normal voice and therefore dismissing all other voices the actor producers as "not them" which doesn't make much sense.

At the end of the day, Haku is a symbol and nothing more, of Miku failure, though people are trying to make her something she is not, this doesn't change anything. Don'[t get me wrong, I've never said I hate Haku herself, even though I'm against fanmades/ Vocaloid is a software yoour meant ot bend and warp to your whim to achieve results,anyway, but there are traits in the voice that always remain and things you can't get around that easy. Haku has many of the same traits as Miku hidden in her voice, because she uses Miku's voice regardlweess. And thus we cycle right back to the beginning of the argfyments and issues surrounding this. :-/