Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20160713122023/@comment-53539-20160822090842

86.26.36.97 wrote: This probably sounds dumb but I really want a SeeU rhythm game, or atleast one featuring SeeU as a playable character. Maybe UNI in aswell, maybe some other Vocaloids. A game like Project DIVA/Mirai or Megpoid the Music#. I know there was an app which included some SeeU, but it wasn't anything big, and there weren't any PVs... The thing that annoys me the most about it though is probably that there's nothing I can do to make it happen. I'd give up on SeeU, she is a lost cause at this point. It would be better to look to Uni. SeeU's VA's behaviour sealed SeeU's position via her behaviour with the law while her company SBS Artech sealed her position with their ludicrous claims.

SBS pretty much tried to force SeeU to be the next Miku before building up a customer base. SeeU should have been a test-the-waters vocal with just Korean. The thing is that in Japan nobody would buy her because she was Korean while Korea is reluctant because Vocaloid is "Japanese".

Whenever a show does imports something from Japan, it often is edited if its a anime/show/game to remove the Japanese culture. Soul Caliber and One Piece are two off the bat I now got impacted. S.C.'s issue was they replaced the samurai characters and in One Piece all Japnese-based swords are covered up. Korea has some funny hurdles, at one stage to show an anime in Korea you needed to have 50% of your staff at least Korean. This is why in the first 3 seasons of Beyblade had half the production team being Korean - sadly you can tell the episodes worked on by the Korean animations because the quality drops badly. Not only does the animation suffer, but characters aren't so on-model... The Japanese animators were almost always saved for the best episodes.

Basically on a political level, China, Korea and Japan hate each other for things they did to each other. you get things like arguing over islands with nobody living on them...

Either way, the Chinese vocaloids had more of an advantage... The population of China is huge compared to s.Korea. Someone had to want them. They are doing well considering they are newer and less established then English or Japanese.

Generally though... non-Japanese vocaloids have a harder time being loved by fans outside of Japan. Even the term "Engloid" didn't come from overseas fans, we just adopted it. This is why traditionally "Engloid" refers to PowerFX and Zero-G company Vocaloids.

It turns out in the Spanish fandom, their fans got vocaloids they didn't want. If you think some of the stuff anti-Engloid fans come up with is bad, Luan and Lucia produced even worst comments about Spanish Vocaloids. Some of the reported ones surprised me considering there were people in the English fandom praising them. Either, I don't think you can talk about SeeU without baring in mind the position of Korean Vocaloids compared to other Vocaloids of other languages. Right now, on Japanse, English and Chinese are "doing well" overall. Korean and Spanish are both currently "meh" overall it seems.

To be honest, Engloids only started doing well because
 * 1) more people now know they exist and
 * 2) some of the bias has been given up or proven wrong over time
 * 3) people started supporting them making it harder for bias fans to really get anywhere.

Its possible over time for a vocal to overturn the tide of resistance. Sometimes its a matter of the fans didn't know they wanted the vocal and other times its a vocal they wanted. :-/