Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3076833-20141017184700/@comment-165.155.201.197-20171207151602

Angel Emfrbl wrote: Well the issue is defining what is "the best" vocaloid. For example, in Vocaloid2 the best quality Vocaloid in English was considered Prima, and for opera there was no vocaloid who could compete with her. But she was really hard to use outside of opera. Meanwhile, sweet Ann who was a MQ vocaloid had could be more useful for more songs as her vocal have a lot of flexibility. She could sound innocent or sexy (which is why I hate the boxart bias) and was actually the overall best vocaloid for general use.

As a former fan of Gumi, I can say she is also far from perfect. Her voicebank has been great cleaned up over time and they've added more, but the voice range and tempo are basically the same no matter what voicebank you use. So there is often not much difference between owning voicebanks based on her. Meanwhile Miku's current 5 vocals have specific reasons for using each voice, their tempos and ranges make one a pick over the others for a some. They give very different results based on which vocal is used while Gumi more or less is the same no matter what vocal you use.

Many of the newer vocaloid since V3 and V4 have larger voice ranges and tempos also overall, and at times Miku and Gumi are held back by their V2 voicebank creation era. One advantage Gumi has though is being part of the massive XSY group "Internet" while Miku is part of the "Miku V4x" XSY group which contains only her V3 and V4 vocals. Though she has a English XSY group and Gumi doesn't, we must note since July AHS have created a English XSY group for Macne Nana. This means there is potential for a XSY group for English to grow much larger then anything Miku can offer. And plus, Miku's English advantage isn't too far from Luka, but out of the two she has the greater in English as Luka's two vocals are copy and pastes of the same results... Therefore barely count for much. ¬_¬'

As I mentioned, Gumi 's vocal range and tempo haven't changed since V2 at all... Miku's .vocal ranges of all voicebanks, in contrast, have been slowly increasing over time with a few new keys added here and there to some vocals. So Miku improves each generation, while Gumi just adds more voicebanks.

Miku has also had no other vocaloid sound the same as her as of yet. Whereas Gumi has fallen into the "common vocal" type group which a lot of vocaloids who are female are a part of sadly. The closet is likely VY1 who often sounds like a more mature Miku but has an accent Miku doesn't. The other cutesy vocals either end up mid-range or too childish or cutesy. So for Miku, Miu is one of the "unique" sounding vocal types... I'm sure that will change though sooner or later. Interesting facts, I didn't know anything about it. And the part "Gumi's vocal range never changes since V2", this may not fit on some speedy songs like Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu. I also agree that "there's no such thing as perfect Vocaloid"

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