User blog comment:Angel Emfrbl/English Vocaloid + realism/@comment-26061193-20150208114919/@comment-53539-20150208131559

While I accept that the Japanese and Spanish vocaloids are the best two areas of vocaloid, I do not understand the constant need to run down other sections.

Sure odd vocals like Kagamines needed more work, but their examples of their day and all part of the vocaloid softwares history. You're not going to dig up a ruby every time you put a spade in the ground, is what I'm saying. You're going to get a lot of dirt and rock before you find anything and likely won't find what your after... Or You could find diamonds instead. But if you don't dig at all, you never find anything.

And when you consider Miku was a LQ vocal originally, yet it never held her back. I also like that elsewhere on VO forums they praise Gumi V2, yet... Nobody ever mentions SF-A2 miki, who was considered more of a vocal match then Gumi was. I find it amazing how the things people focus on in the western fandom, or the fandom in general aren't awlays the reasons a vocal is a gem. Miki was a MQ V2 vocal, sure and to top it off Iroha was a better vocaloid, but she offered the best range of tones for the Japanese vocaloids. Gumi is regarded as a resistant vocal who doesn't like being edited and refuses to give up unique tones.

Then there is Gumi's issues with editing and bringing up her noise loop issues which restrict how much you can edit her from her original voice. All of which were stated as being fixed for her V3 vocal... Basically... At this point in time its better to go with Gumi V3 then Gumi V2. :-/

But it is part of the long standing issue I've had with some western fans. As I said before who would you believe more; western fans or the Japanese fandom when we're talking about Japanese vocaloids? Its not that I want to not believe western fans, its just constantly there is this brick wall you run into on certain subjects.

It all goes back tot he issue that was reported in regards to Diva's development. The team working on her had to hire English Teachers in order to balance out the team because the Japanese side didn't know when an English vocaloid hiccuped. Honestly, every time a Kagamine fan says "Kagamine Len is the best vocaloid"... Well, trying to resist explaining how bad Act1 was and how not much better Act2 was in some directions becomes the hardest thing for some of the editors here at the wikia to do. The random fan posting this doesn't know better and ignorance is one of the biggest factors at play in this crazy situation. :-/

Ignorance is a bliss...

Off the subject of English, spanish and Japanese, I'm curious about why chinese vocaloids are not being brought up too often in that topic and why Spanish and Japanese are crowned "the best". I remember the reaction of early V3 was "any language except English..." now its different and is confined to "Japanese and Spanish are the best". I guess the fact there are 5 Chinese vocals at this point has bored everyone into submission because honestly, this has me puzzled about the sudden turn around on Chinese vocaloids.

I can understand Korean due to the BS stuff that occurred with SeeU, but SeeU was just one vocal. Until Uni hits sale I don't know if its fair to judge Korean vocaloid at all by her 1 vocal.

Still... All this makes me more and more concerned about the way fans view the software. Its bad enough we have to go through the "oh noes not another female" routine when a vocaloid comes out.

I feel like the issues with the fandom at this point amount to be ungrateful, especially since there are now over 60 vocaloids and 100 voicebanks between them. Its like... When we had a dozen people respected them more. :-/