Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-35301431-20150124185052/@comment-53539-20150125083256

I've herd complaints she sounds "wierd" to some and I must admit its partly true for me. Most of it comes from the age old American versus british pronunciations we've always had with vocaloid for a while. Most of the western fandom sems to be made up of american's right? The most clearest sounds will be the American accent.

I never had any problems with any of the past vocaloids for english myself, Soul exceptions was Sonika who was just a mess and Japanese -> English vocals which just sounded... Strange... Most of the time... I think this is going to be something to observe in future, that even Cyber Diva has clarity, the new script they are using might pronounce very mixed results when applied to different accents.

Its not a nitpick though and its a small complaint at best and won't impact my view of future Vocaloids for English.

I'm actually more concern about the loss of expression in favour of clarity. This kinda goes back to the the issue I've said for a year now how people favour clarity over any other trait. Clarity seems to almost always come at a cost. How much of a cost it will be? Until producers start making music outside of demos, maybe not. As for all other things, I find myself that Diva isn't out most realistic sounding Vocaloid we've had, believe it or not as this still goes down to Prima and Tonio (note; when used right). So this might end up being were th loss of expression hits the hardest. :-/

Its also the same issue that is hitting a lot of Japanese vocaloids since V3, and why extra tones are becoming increasingly a must for them. So on the other hand, we've lost a lot, on the other it now might make way for the pressure of extra tones to cover the loss of expression.

So why I don't see this helping solo vocals much, multi-packs are going to be more valued in the future when they start finally coming. That means some bonuses, as we get more English vocals.

So this gives me mixed feelings, I'm glad long term issues are being addressed at last. But at the same time, I'm worried about the consequences of whats been lost a little. I'm also still laughing that Yamaha's basically ignored they created a faulty system for English and just put it down to the fault of the studios entirely and not mentioned that they themselves created the problem in the first place... Or rather the early researchers did. This will basically amuse me for a while. Especially when people start pulling up the old "Yamaha shows everyone up again!" card.

As for improvement in quality... Well.. This will go back to the whole "clarity versus any other trait". I once said "Power" types tend to show the worst of the engines flaws so this may or may not be an issue.

The new engloid hate at Diva thats occurred since her announcement also amuses me... They improve things and the anti-/hate fans try and pick it apart again. Sorry but the long history of idol worship of Japanese and downgrading of most other vocaloids never ceases to amaze me.