Talk:Lily/@comment-37245405-20181221164307/@comment-53539-20181222164538

I think it would do Lily good to have English, but honestly we're in no position to experiment yet with English Vocaloid. ITs just difficult for Japanese natives to do a English vocal, and much easier for a native to produce the same results.

The way Vocaloid works it already captures accents. This is an achievement because normal singing results often cause a vocalist to loose their accent. So the fact Vocaloid can capture a Accent that even normal singing can't produce, already note Vocaloid is good.

Each studio has a criteria for their next release. ITs no good producing a Rock vocal for British and then a Rock vocal for American, because the accent may be the only thing that separates them. English has the luxury of being able to capture the variation within voicebanks that Japanese ones do not, hence why Japanese vocals hit a "sound alike" barrier in V3 that had to be fixed for V4. ITs a case of 1,500+ sounds, versus 8,300+ and the size difference makes English vocaloid 5x the size of any Japanese vocal. I wrote up about this on the Controversy Concerns, its because of this variation margin that large sized voicebanks such as those in English, actually have more realism since there is more variation of sounds. It used to be stated that it was Japanese, but with 1/5 the library it couldn't be true because of the lack of variation in every instance a Japanese Vocaloid said something like "ma". But it works in favour of accent capture for this reason in terms of English.

Vocaloi would need to be slightly tweaked for every example of every accent to make things easier to avoid the struggle provider's of non-native origins have with English recording. CFM has always reported even in regards to Luka their best vocal for English performance, they don't find it easy. Wat famously said a "Stupid westerner would destroy their computer Working with English Vocaloid" because he himself thought it was hard. He also thought recording the vocal alone made every Vocaloid singer sound too tense, not true its just being non-natives theycan't relax their vocals so easy and are being forced to produce sounds precisely. It results in too much tension, even when you don't need it. Ironically, they now take the approach more like Nana's recording of just letting the vocal be more natural English over precise as of English Miku V4.

One also must remember that Vocaloid is not produce for charity but for profit. While the vocal There is always going to be a habit of going for vocal types that are certain to sell over types that may not, hence why so many Japanese vocaloids are female.

Also, the British accent has actually more variation per square mile then the US. You can go into the next village and get a new accent entirely. ITs slowly breaking down and we're loosing our accents due to standardised English being taught in school, but a person from Newcastle can be very different to Southend, Devon or one of the 12 London accents. "British" also includes Scottish, Welsh and Irish accents. So there is more diversity then one realises it. The Welsh are especially known for a large number of execellent singers coming out of their country. :-?