Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-30602727-20160202181457/@comment-26427856-20160414062122

Scintillarescenza wrote: True, but I don't think most of the time people legitimately think that even well executed Engrish is better than actual English. If they do, that's pretty delusional on their part, which is why I die on the inside everytime someone says that any Crypton English voicebank is better than a native Engloid. I mean, Meiko is better than Sonika, but the Kagamines are not better than Big AL or Sweet ANN.

A lot of people in that VO thread said they didn't mind Nana's accent, it's just the one wrongly pronounced phoneme that everyone started arguing over. I think people are starting to have a higher standard for English voicebanks in V4, which was why Nana's V3 English was good quality and had decent pronunciation (for a JP Engloid), but if she's still going to sound like that in V4 she needs to step up her game. I personally thought that her V3 English was fine, it's literally the one single phoneme (r pronounced as l or w) that kept her from being the Fukase of V3. Also, a lot of people still don't like Vocaloid Nana (I didn't at first but I got used to her) because she sounds different from how she used to, people like the Kagamines because they're used how they sound and they didn't drastically change. However, considering that the Kagamines' English is pretty much the same as Nana's English (which is saying something because Kagamines are V4 while Nana was V3) it's the initial popularity that Kagamines/Nana had that carried onto their new updates. Okay, first of all, Meiko English is not better than Sonika, and I'm not just saying that because I love Sonika. I did multiple direct comparisons of Meiko English versus Sonika with them singing the same songs, and Sonika was clearer every time. It can be your opinion that Meiko English is better than Sonika, but I at least very highly disagree with you. Oh yeah, the success and popularity of previous versions of Vocaloids totally impact the popularity of succeeding versions; that's just common sense.

The person I want to collaborate with is still having problems getting the Tiny V4 Editor to work. She says "The problem is that to activate even the tiny V4 editor I need an activation code, but when you get a demo it doesn't provide one. It says in the instructional pdf that it shouldn't need one though." This is turning into a much bigger hassle than it needs to be. OTL  Once again, does anyone know how to fix this? If not I might actually make a VO account and ask there.