Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-30602727-20160202181457/@comment-29714788-20160414000701

Angel Emfrbl wrote:

i spoke up in the topic and noted the two things that have always struck me from the fans. 1: the old luka japanese doing better english... 2: the fact that some just like the Japanese vocaloids singing in english using their japanese vocals - which produce much worst results then english nana. i don't get the fuss about the accent. Maybe i'm Nana bias, but i've said for years how accent in English vocals is something you'll have to take with notes. its why we have a section on accents alone on the English Phonetics page. True, but I don't think most of the time people legitimately think that even well executed Engrish is better than actual English. If they do, that's pretty delusional on their part, which is why I die on the inside everytime someone says that any Crypton English voicebank is better than a native Engloid. I mean, Meiko is better than Sonika, but the Kagamines are not better than Big AL or Sweet ANN.

A lot of people in that VO thread said they didn't mind Nana's accent, it's just the one wrongly pronounced phoneme that everyone started arguing over. I think people are starting to have a higher standard for English voicebanks in V4, which was why Nana's V3 English was good quality and had decent pronunciation (for a JP Engloid), but if she's still going to sound like that in V4 she needs to step up her game. I personally thought that her V3 English was fine, it's literally the one single phoneme (r pronounced as l or w) that kept her from being the Fukase of V3. Also, a lot of people still don't like Vocaloid Nana (I didn't at first but I got used to her) because she sounds different from how she used to, people like the Kagamines because they're used how they sound and they didn't drastically change. However, considering that the Kagamines' English is pretty much the same as Nana's English (which is saying something because Kagamines are V4 while Nana was V3) it's the initial popularity that Kagamines/Nana had that carried onto their new updates.