User blog comment:Musa666/Re: I need some help/@comment-24840832-20140619181525/@comment-24840832-20140620115000

(didn't I say I was gonna give up? Oh, well) Prepare for a long comment now.

If you can't see what's wrong with that, then, I'm sorry, but you really aren't fit to run a wiki.

Here's your front page (in quotation marks) plus my commentary (outside quotation marks) to show what, in my opinion is wrong with it, kinda like an MST:

"Welcome to the Notable vocaloid songs Wiki" I would capitalize everything in that name. Notable Vocaloid Songs Wiki. Also, I would rename it in general because notable gives people different ideas. Perhaps Vocaloid Song Recommendations or just Vocaloid Song Wiki idk

"This wiki is just basically a place to put in notable Vocaloid songs, it does not have to be popular, like World is Mine it just has to be notable/good. Also don't forget to add your own!" This makes me shudder. Ignoring the general incompleteness of that bit and your still VERY sketchy definition of notable, a better way to phrase this just language wise might be: "This wiki is a place to list notable Vocaloid songs. The song does not have to be popular to be notable, just good. Don't forget to add your own, as well!" (own what, btw? Songs? I guess so) Still not perfect but yeah. It would be better if you didn't mention World is Mine like that and if you did, at least put it in quotation marks and perhaps link somewhere (this wiki's page or whatever). And don't say "to put in notable Vocaloid songs" and "it just has to be notable/good". Duh, the notable song you put in has to be notable.

"This wiki's definition of Noteable" Are you kidding you don't see what's wrong with that? N-O-T-E-A-B-L-E. Argh. No!

"My definition of notable is it doesn't have to be popular just good/notable, although songs that aren't appropriate for minors WILL have to have a warning or it will be added ASAS(as soon as spotted)." Not gonna lie, I don't usually joke about those topics but I'll make an exception and say that this sentence gave me cancer. There, look at what you did. Rephrase to not really improve the content because you haven't sorted out your principles well but at least help the, ya know, phrasing: "On this wiki, notable is defined as any song that you consider good." Yes, it's still sucky but geez, it's so much better than before. I didn't mention the whole "inappropriate" songs thing because it wouldn't fit. Write wiki guidelines and put that there!

Step by step: "My definition" I pointed this out to you, you didn't change it. "of notable is it doesn't have to be popular" either make a colon (of notable is: ...) (it still wouldn't be pretty but better), or put some more words (of notable is, that it doesn't have to be popular) which still sucks immensely as you can see. Rephrasing the whole thing is neccessary. "just good/notable" My definition of notable is that it has to be notable. Are you kidding me you don't define notable as notable what the hell how do you think that's okay. The rest is in the wrong place anyways but just some things I felt deserved special mention "WILL" CAPS-LOCK emphasize isn't exactly the professional language you should be going for on a main page. "have to have a warning" repetitive junk. "ASAS(as soon as spotted)" okay, aside from the fact that you have to leave a space between the ASAS and the bracket, this is trash. Avoid using acronyms in your actual text on the wiki (stuff like NND is okay but not acronyms of things like "As soon as spotted") and just don't use acronyms that you have to explain. If you're going to use this phrase only once and you have to write out what the acronym stands for right after the acronym itself, you're doing it wrong. Just use the written out phrase to begin with!

"What it's pupose is" That's the other thing, it applies to all headlines: You should try making it look like something. Perhaps capitalize the words. What It's Purpose Is. Looks better to me. That aside: No. "The Purpose of this Wiki", "Purpose" or whatever but not "What it's purpose is". Urgh.

"To help people find good songs." Yeah, no, that's what the teachers at elementary school always used to tell everyone when they answered a question. Use whole sentences. Don't just continue the sentence from the headline. That's in bad taste. "The purpose of this wiki is to help people find good songs to listen to" or something like that idk. "Please contribute so there are songs for ALL tastes!" Again with the CAPS-LOCK emphasizing. And it would be better if you didn't beg people to contribute. From what I could gather, this wiki was in large part for listing songs you like so you should actually present it as an offer not as "I'm desperate to make it work please contribute you guys I'll even give you cookies!"

"What the circumstances have to be to have a warning" Again, "have to be to have a". And this, too, sounds weird. And this, too, belongs in wiki guidelines that you should write.

"*Anything against any religion (includes religious roots)" not wrong content wise I guess but it seems incomplete. The phrasing is unprofessional, too.

"*Curse words (any sexual words or words like the a-word or d-word" Four main things here.

First: "Inappropriate language" or something like that might be a much, much better choice than "curse words".

Second: Not all sexual words are curse words. You can count them as inappropriate language I guess but the problem is more that songs containing them will likely have somewhat inappropriate themes in general. The words itself shouldn't be a big deal. I don't know about you, but I learned all that stuff when I was little from my parents already and even if that wasn't the case, I learned it formally in 3rd grade so even with slight differences in age at which you learn that, I don't think any of the many kids you apparently expect to come swarming your wiki should be spooked by the words alone.

Third: "a-word or d-word". Oh, hell no. I think people should be aware what curse words are so you shouldn't have to list examples but if you're gonna do it anyways then not like this! And what d-word? I can think of plenty of them. That's just ambiguous and incredibly childish.

Finally: You didn't close the bracket.

"*Nudity in the PV (or any SC)" I suppose it's okay but the question is what you mean by "nudity". There are somewhat different definitions. Do you mean full, completely naked nudity or the usual suspects (loin area, breasts)? Or even more? A clearer defintion would be helpful if you're gonna list it that way. This one isn't too extreme though so if this were actually mentioned at the appropriate place it would probably work.

Better idea? Take some inspiration from this.

The fact that I literally had to go through this in tiny, tiny steps to explain these blatant errors to you just shows that you aren't fit to do this. I can tell you might go and insert my text at the appropriate places or you may not but you won't be able to think a few steps beyond that and go to the subpages you made already and check them for mistakes. You probably wouldn't realize without my pointing it out that on your Miku page it still says that inappropriate songs will be deleted, and in wrong English, too (thus, instead of or). You won't change your way of listing songs even though I repeatedly told you that you had to credit and that linking to videos would be better than imbedding them. If I pointed out the fact that you named two sites "Miku songs" and "Meiko songs" (without using the correct capitalization for MEIKO and without writing Miku's full name) but another side "Notable Gumi songs" (without using the correct capitalization for GUMI) you might change it to make them fitting but I wouldn't trust you to do it correctly from there on. You don't seem to understand that you have to organize your pages. You just list originals side by side with covers and neither original producer nor cover producer are mentioned anywhere. You list songs the way you want without much regard for the way the title was originally and as such you write "Luvoratorry" instead of "LUVORATORRRRRY". You don't mention which Vocaloids actually sing, such as that the aforementioned song actually features GUMI and Rin, not just GUMI. You don't put your warning in brackets, you don't even seem to attempt to create some sort of template for anything. You don't create categories. I tell you that yellow is a bad color for your text, given the lavender-ish background, and to try and change it and you ignore it. All these things are obvious and I have to tell you. You don't seem to understand the most basic things about how a wiki works and yet you try to create one yourself. Your wiki's name is still misspelled and you either don't notice or just don't care enough to try to find out how to change it. You said it yourself: You don't know what the heck you're doing and thus, you can't fix your wiki. And at the same time, you're completely incapable of doing the minimal research needed to find the links I gave you. You said that you didn't know what to do and you just automatically expected ME to find out. You didn't even think about finding it out yourself. You can't seem to work on an established wiki like this normally. Compare yourself to this wiki's admins, for example. You once spammed with a blog post because you not only didn't read the guidelines but you were actually unable to figure it out yourself that posting random pointless Japanese text would be considered spam and that that is wrong. Serza tells you to look at this wiki's front page and aim for that and yet you don't understand what's wrong with your own front page compared to that. It doesn't need to be perfect, really, that's what editors are needed for. But with what's there so far and your attitude and the fact that you apparently just created a wiki without being really clear on the purpose aren't going to win you any. You're asking for editors and yet, that wiki is completely focused on you. It's YOUR wiki. You said so yourself: "My wiki my rules". This behavior is uncooperative and it won't work in a community environment like a wiki. And again: You ask for help but you aren't really doing what people say you unless they list every tiny little detail like I did here. If I kept helping you I'd still feel like I'd have to do everything myself because if I tell you to do it, it won't happen.

I'm not attacking you personally, not at all. I don't know you. I hope you have a nice day. But I will still have to say: That wiki is trash. Sorry.

My advice: Scratch that wiki project, take some time to become more mature and adjusted to working on a wiki (and master the English language enough that you'll be able to manage an English-speaking website) and think about whether or not you wanna create your own wiki again in a few years. If you can't do that, well, I don't believe in your wiki, it's purpose, it's anything but if you can fix your attitude I might be willing to help. I wouldn't count on it, though.