Talk:VOCALOID Piracy/@comment-9691206-20130616071528/@comment-53539-20130627164704

@Alex; You honestly haven't looked this up have you?

Lets say it takes £5,000 to make a vocaloid... Just to save arguments...

The reality is likely that out of every vocaloid produced, the studio backing it gets something like £3-£8 profit per vocaloid. That means they would have to sell between 1,600+ copies to 625. We have had it confirmed that a Vocaloid needs to sell 1,000 copies to be successful, so it is likely the studio producing the vocaloids gets back, if production is £5,000, a mere £5 profit from every sale. Thats not a lot...

If you consider Kaito sold 500 units, at a studio profit of only £5 that means he brought in a mere £2,500 back. Out of £5000, CFM would have lost half of his development money at least. If Meiko hadn't sold 3,000 copies (bringing £15,000), CFM would have had no reason to contineu making vocaloids as they would have lost over £5,000+ on a product that isn't selling. ^_-

If your going to use money as an example for pirating, at least do some research before you attempt to argue.

The singer likely takes out of each vocaloid sale only £8 per vocaloid.

Based on the fact V1's are on sale for Zero-G right now for £25, I'd imagine this represents the most basic sale price a old tech V1 can be up for and still make a profit... the technology behind them is a decade old, not supported. There is not going to be much reason a consumer would buy them so everything is cheap to produce... In other words, making a copy of Leon is much, much cheaper then selling a copy of Avanna. Though it DOES beg to ask why Kaito and Meiko V1 were more expensive then the V3 vocals at one point.

Often companies sale specials represent the basic price a studio dare goes down to and still get a small profit on and they can only do a sale under certain conditions. :-/