User talk:Angel Emfrbl/2012

About proposed fanmade entries
I require more time to go through the history before deletion. I like to be thorough with my projects and information. This includes the abandons, although I can copy it in one swoop, I want the usernames. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:36, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have a to-do list (my blog entry) and it is active. Also before the decision to remove the fanmade pages entirely, I made it a point to get the current ones sorted or deleted. What came later was transferring them to Fanloid wiki; that requires time in itself when it comes to information gathering instead of copy/paste.
 * I never saw a reason to create individual pages for them on Vocaloid wiki as I thought they interfered with the official information. You created them, and I figured you were trying something new and I followed suit, as your plan was to revamp or remove the other Fanmade pages, but months past and both of us got side tracked doing other things to build the wiki.


 * Besides Vocaloid Wiki I do have my other wiki to maintain and update.
 * To keep you posted, I will put a delete template on the pages that I have transferred to Fanloid Wiki, this includes categories. The images I can get to on my own. Though I would like your view on Kaiko and Ca Calne. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:14, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apparently Ca Calne now is officially recognized by CFM, so I think she should continue. Also Shitteyan'yo shouldn't be moved, the character makes an apparition in the Project Diva games showing some recognizing by Crypton

Unfortantely, yeah... The were a lot of sudden distractions, that and I wasn't sure if what I did was for the best for the wikia so I had to stop editing them. :-/ One-Winged Hawk 01:20, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re: BTW
Yes, I read when it was published. I went through a similar situation a year before. Wish you the best. -- Bunai82 (talk) 03:08, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Undo of your own profile page
I reverted your profile page .. Saw some vandalism "Sexy this and sexy that" really waste of time .... History here

Luvmenot 14:01, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

About strength weakness section
Is there a better way to present that without all sections taking up the page and to TOC? It looks really awkward, especially on Miku's page. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:39, January 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was more referring to reducing the subheaders, by putting them as a bold using wiki text instead. The font gets so tiny the more subheaders are added. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

3 Voicebank Libraries

* 3.1 Vocaloid 2 o 3.1.1 Megurine Luka (CV03) + 3.1.1.1 Megurine Luka; Japanese # 3.1.1.1.1 Strengths # 3.1.1.1.2 Weaknesses + 3.1.1.2 Megurine Luka; English # 3.1.1.2.1 Strengths # 3.1.1.2.2 Weaknesses

1 Voicebank Libraries

* 1.1 Vocaloid 2 o 1.1.1 Megurine Luka (CV03) + 1.1.1.1 Megurine Luka; Japanese + 1.1.1.2 Megurine Luka; English

Character here; language

 * Optimum genre:
 * Optimum tempo:
 * Optimum range:
 * Language:

content
 * Strengths

content
 * Weaknesses

On a different note, I got the Wiki Forums back in order. User:Antonio Lopez 'sort of' disabled the forumheaders function, thus rendering any new topics invisible unless you checked the RC. I sorted the topics as well, so everything should be where it should.

I deleted the test forums and kept the news one. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:29, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Interesting, I'll take the suggestions in mind, I haven't time to really disgest them as I type because I have 20 minutes to get out the door for train and I'm doing some quick banning.


 * And YEAH! the forums are back??? I'll look at that too when I'm back! :-D One-Winged Hawk 08:33, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Youtube songlist
Hi ! Angel... I don't know how to phrase this, and this is a little stupid but here goes ..... An example...


 * Original song : World is mine (vocal = Hatsune Miku)


 * Cover song : World is mine (vocal = Kagamine Rin for example)


 * Original song : World is mine Hatsune Miku's Remix(vocal = Hatsune Miku)


 * Then what is ??? : World is mine Kagamine Rin's Remix (Vocal = Kagamine Rin for example)

In this case its like created with Kagamine rin as original but is a cover song from Hatusne Miku

And also a remix section would not be feasible right ?? (cause only more famous vocaloid have remixes found on youtube or something like that)

Luvmenot 15:05, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Get well soon~ !! See a doctor if you are really feeling unwell .......

Wow !! Found this remix while typing this.... Its from Dixie Flatline (well this kinda serve as a get well song or something like that).

Noted. I will be careful in regards to the cover and remixes ..

Luvmenot 13:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Examples of usage
If you don't mind, I'll be changing a few of them; to legendary master Ps. Those who can handle them well, so people can know their... True potential, or, some sort. It's been bugging me ever since that section was first created. Heh.

I hope you don't mind. Unknown.System 12:52, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I'll start with the ones I know first... Though I'm afraid to touch the English speaking Vocaloids' page, since I'm sure you know better.

I'm thinking of adding at least 1 cover song so people can make a comparison, and that's pretty much it. Unknown.System 13:07, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Oh... So first impressions... :o

Hnn, I won't add more than 3, this wiki already has lots of songs (YT list, songs featuring,) I'm sure it's more than enough.. Unknown.System 13:24, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

vandalism ??
Edit done by user .. difference here

Luvmenot 14:54, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

User rights?
Hi~ What is userrights? I'm wondering- sorry, I'm kinda late at things.....(K4) 27.91.2.20 01:56, February 1, 2012 (UTC) Wow, I typed that wrong huh. What does a rollbacker do exactly? refresh my memory. A lot has changed. O_O K4KING 11:17, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Idea for remaining genderswaps
The three Crypton ones specifically. As conversation here states - Talk:SeeU. Only reason that their pages are still here is because I was thinking of what to do with them, I didn't want to delete their pages simply based on the content being copied to Fanloid wiki. I only want to delete them after I know what to do. Their existence is what really spurred on the Vocaloid genderswap idea that continues to this day, even though genderswapping is a popular thing in general. The arrival of Mikuo and Kaiko is what got it to be so popular with Vocaloid fans.

Anyway the creation of the Miku formula page finally gave me the idea about how to handle it. I can use their history (maybe some trivia) and place it on a page that explains early ideas of Vocaloid genderswaps. The voice config, songs, appearances, and (likely) traits can be eliminated, since everything on the pages are already on Fanloid wiki and also expanded upon. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:59, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was going by your energy, which is why I figured if the rest of the fanmades and fanon were off the Vocaloid wiki then eventually the three remaining Crypton genderswaps would be as well even if I did nothing. I was wondering if CFM would noticed how popular Kaiko was, though I am unsure if they delayed their acknowledgment because they have a problem with their characters being portrayed as a different gender and or personality. Anyway, if Kaiko gets to remain then that just leaves Meito and Mikuo to remove and merge, unless CFM says something about Mikuo. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:32, February 3, 2012 (UTC) edit Would you mind if I linked fanmade pages in the trivia of the official Vocaloid pages? For example, male SeeU appears to be getting quite popular, but I don't want that to overshadow SeeU's trivia, so instead just mention him and link his page (if and when it is created). -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:39, February 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Guess I'll go with the genderswap page then... or something like that. Just need to think of a title. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:24, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

So I can know what is going on. Why did you remove the 'Template:FanmadeArticleCopied' from Kaiko's page? Is the template too large? Unneeded? Intrusive? -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:09, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, though just to make sure, do you want me to do anything else with it? -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:27, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * lol, I know that ^_^
 * I was referring to the templates appearance. I like to give credit to what I copy, so that is why it is on the fanmade pages, even the base fanmade page. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:37, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * lol, sign off for a bit and rest.
 * Yeah, I am still thinking about the page merge. At least with the current acknowledged ones. That still leaves Mikuo and Meito for a project history page. Have you ever dealt with a character page list that is extensive? As in, the information about the character being lengthy, and each would at least have a infobox adapted to the listing page.
 * I can try sandboxing an idea of what to do about the Crypton fanmades, but it does mean trying to fit their trivia into their biography. Anyway, I will be off and on, because currently I'll be updating my wiki for the week. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:50, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'll let you continue. ^_^
 * I won't be really showing any work on the idea until tonight, my time. -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:55, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

explanation?
Was sleeping halfway until my phone notified me.... Sorry if I caused discomfort

Ok about that.... I asked bunai regarding the song pages that uses templates... In short we agreed that we would change it back to song list until a better idea comes out.... You can refer to my talk page about question regarding songlist section about bunai reply...

Well if there is a need to change it back to template I am more then happy to help. Since most of the time I could only contribute to song pages..... Sorry again if I am more trouble then of help. .... 12:02, February 14, 2012


 * @Angel Emfbl. I thought you saw that convo after the hiatus?
 * It is the "Re: Q: regarding youtube songlist" section. Also, you posted right below it pfft XD
 * The thing is, I figured Luvmenot dropped the idea after you already altered the page. That and I was waiting to see if a different style would come along. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:45, February 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh... Thats all I can say on this "oh". Okay just ignore me and pretend none of this happened. XD


 * I'd like to go back to the template method, but I think it would be best for the song pages if a template was created that allowed videos side by side. We could put just the name of the song and have the picture then.  But leave it for a future ponder. One-Winged Hawk 22:05, February 14, 2012 (UTC)

my VOCALOID3 CV07
You KNOW what ?! : I think why can't I put my VOCALOID3 : CV07 : Sakura Mizuki in Vocaloid Wiki ?! That's kind of mean!! BTw who created Akita Neru anyways ?! who ever created her, gonna find out !! ( Sorry If I be to mean don't hate me and dont delete my Mizuki Sakura ( CV07 ) never ) Happy editing : Lovely Parade 07:33, March 1, 2012

By the way The PAGE THAT YOU just DELETED is an upcoming Vocaloid for V3 ! 21:09, March 3, 2012

I'm trying to be the Good and Kind person here!!! calm down if there is just no CV05, CV06 is already out but not here ! MWAHAHAHAHA ( CRAZY isn't it ( inner CureParade) ) her name is Flora Satomi be kind if you please and don't PLEASE don't write if you have something nice to say ! ( inner CureParade ) Sparkling Shining Light of the Future and Carnnavilles ! : Cure Parade ! The End SeeU if I ever meet you again ! BYE BYE 03:46, March 5, 2012

Very Sorry for This Long Absence
I'm very sorry for this long absence. I decided to change my job and have been preparing for my new career. Now the things are going on as usual again and I'm back here. Damesukekun 13:59, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The translation about Kagamine Act2 was done. Please check my talk page. Damesukekun 15:20, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re: note
It's funny cause I was originally going to wait at least until the end of this week or so to choose them. This way there was time for some better songs to be released. But at the end I just decided on a whim to get them up.><'Taboo6938 10:08, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Notices
I just want to write some of my concerns regarding the comment section of IA and Miku, there has been a sudden discussion between a lot of Anons regarding ‘who‘s best‘ and IMO it‘s getting a bit out of control.

And another things i wanna post out now that i have the chance is the YouTube list of Miriam, a lot of covers got mixed in with the Originals, and that some artist pages are written as like if it was crazy fangirls that wrote/edit the info. --MikeFire 04:33, April 23, 2012 (UTC)w

Hi... Can you make me my Official Vocaloid Box.. Pls??? I beg you?? Pls...

--Thnk you for your kind consideration :)

Hi :"> Can I add my Fanloid here in VOcaloid :D ???Kenandli123 03:39, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm overreacting or mixing VO and wikia business, but I saw the argument you got in with Mini on VO forums. I would like to say that you are a very valued member of the community that provides a lot of quality information, and puts a lot of hard work into the wikia. I, for one, appreciate your hard work and contributions to the fandom. I lurk on the VO forums, making posts every now and then, and also use the wikia a lot. You are a very involved and active member of the community. I may have never really had a conversation with you, but it just wouldn't quite be the same to go onto a VO forum and not see SomebodyRandom posting in the Vocaloid Talk section or Angel Emfrbl gracing the wikia article comments with his/her presence. So, I would just like to say... please don't leave the Vocaloid fandom. We would be losing an excellent member of our community.

Sure, there are idiots, like in any fandom. And it's easy to listen to the people who are negative rather than the ones who say good things. I know it's really hard, but I think it's a waste of your time and energy taking it personally. People like Mini can just be... uh... to be frank, assholes. I would say that dealing with Mini in general isn't a good idea. As you've said before, and as I've seen and read, Mini is just taking cheap shots at the Wikia. It's probably for no other reason than to get you riled up. You've already given her/him chances to fix it, but I don't think Mini wants to invest time in actually making anything better. It is easier just to rave about things than to actually fix it.

Also, to voice my own opinion, I don't think (at least some of them) that they were referring to the wikia. The "Miku Formula" has become widespread even outside of the Wikia. I see the term on other sites. I think they were just ranting at the concept, not at the wikia. But, I have ranted much. I would like to say, don't let this get you down, and have a wonderful 28th Birthday. :3

96.247.225.173 21:40, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * unfortantely, at least 1 of them quoted something from the page in the topic before I said something... Even if its not directly related to the page, Xien had been on the wikia a brief moment and posted something similair as a editor here. Whether or not things were refer to, everyone knew what the topic was about and the origins of the term.  Quite frankly, this was just a open nightmare.


 * I admit I was already postingless and less there anyway. They seemed to always want to question me completely, and I felt pressure to perform even in there.  For example, while trying to get Meaw information pre-V3 release I got told about Akikoroid being private instead.  So I knew from the word go she wasn't likely going to be released.  When I mentioned this, I got a lot of hassle. It was a "friend of a friend" sort of routine, I do have people I can contact at a whim, sadly, not this particular link as we had an argument on new years day over something.  I caught him at a bad moment. I was difficult to source the statement, it was one of 4 times I'd used him.


 * I also used to have 2 or 3 translators, but over time I was reduced to 0. I think I pestured one too much, one wasn't reliable enough and the other seemed to drop off the face of the earth.  I can do translations myself but I'm slow and thrown back by complex or confusing statements. Things have become harder over time to regulate the wikia and keep up standards.


 * However, at this point I don't want to wish to talk about the event itself. I will say, sure there ARE mistakes on the wikia, but its a wikia and it happens.


 * Wikia are only meant to be a starting point for further reading, it presents all the information in front of you as the intrepretation of what is believed to be true at the time. However, it supplies sources so you can read for yourself and decide if its corect.  If you think a statement is wrong, you correct it so it backs up the source better.  This is how wikia work. They are themselves evoling pages and permament "WIP".  When a wikia appears to have no flaws, I often question if the wikia is missing something. Some wikia, for example, have so little information on them that wikipedia is actually better then they are. Some are accurate, but have not bothered to source their information.  Some are weighed down with hundreds of images and others are poorly researched.  I've yet to see a wikia I can lean on and say its perfect, when considering the mother of all wikis wikipedia was estimated not so long ago to have 1 in 6 pages with errors on it. One-Winged Hawk 10:01, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Take a vacation
I read the Announcement board. :3 I won't mention the actual event, but I will say that I'm relieved that you decided to (eventually) stay (if I got that right). It's alright, everyone needs breaks from everything, especially when something becomes stressful. I'll say... keep your mind off it for a while, and be nice to yourself. It's always great to have someone as hardworking as you to keep us informed, but remember that you're a human. With the influx of V3 news which is constantly increasing, one person probably can't get all the infomation instantly. It's good to have fun, don't pressure yourself too much, and remember that there are other people on the wiki that will do some work too. xD

This is the motherly side of me talkin', but I say you should treat yourself nice by pampering yourself to relieve yourself of stress. And of course, taking care of yourself as well. Nice long baths, maybe with some bath salts or whatever, get a good night's sleep, eat well (both healthy and tasty is the way to go), go out for some sunshine and fresh air, play in the park (who says you can't when you're an adult?), just stuff like that. I'm sure this entire thing will someday feel less bad than it does now.

And, to end I shall say that Vocaloid has it's ups and downs. Right now you may hate it, but hopefully some time off of the stress of constant editing and hassle will change your opinion. Be less hard on yourself, 'kay? :3

Signing out, 96.247.225.173 10:40, May 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Tried taking a break, that ended yesturday and even today I've got to add stuff. See, this is why without this wikia I get bored. ^_^' One-Winged Hawk 07:55, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I will try to do my best with the wikia. It going to be a kinda difficult considering the little time I have due my Professional trainee and my Thesis. I think I will be more active the weekends.
 * Also I will try to find recruit some help. Adept-eX 00:29, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm writing this to tell you the troll came back and created random pages with weird names. :/ I didn't know what to do so I thought I should tell you in case you didn't know. Ryokucha 21:39, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Vb's currently released
Hello, would you mind updating the answer wiki page Vocaloid currently released. Every time I attempt to count I get thrown off. I had to erase the old information about V3. -- Bunai82 (talk) 12:06, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Oh...

There seems to be errors everywhere as of late. The community central explains that some updates and things are going on. I actually wasn't able to read your message, until I did a "compare edit" view. Apparently we are in some kind of 'semi-read-only' mode. -- Bunai82 (talk) 13:14, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hello again!
Hey hey! It's 96.247.225.173 again! You'll see my last post on your page just a little higher than this post. I just kinda lurk around on this wikia and Vocaloid places in general, but I've never really gotten an account here. xD; I've been an avid Vocaloid fan since December of 2007.

I read the bulletin board, and it's kinda sad having nowhere to fangirl. It's a part of every fandom right? Getting to gush about whatever cool things you like about whatever it is? Well, I'm not sure if this would be your kinda thing, but maybe we could be friends? :3 After all, I get kinda lonely in my Vocaloid passions sometimes, not having friends that are interested in either: a) Vocaloids, period or b) the techinical aspects of Vocaloid. I like to learn as much as I can about them, and am planning on trying my hand at being a Vocaloid user. And, if fate will allow it, a producer, should I get skilled at it. Vocaloids have quite inspired me, and I would very much like to become like the producers that make such wonderful music with them.

But, to get to the point... I was wondering if you'd like to be Voca-friends! 8D I know some people have this thing about not talking to strangers on the internet, but I figure, all people you are friends with now were strangers to you at the points before you met them. I'm a little shy on the internet, but I figured, it can't hurt to try and make friends anyway. The worst that could happen is that they'll say no. xD ...And maybe I should make a Vocaloid Wikia account...>_<

PS: My IP address may have changed because this is a laptop, and I move all over the place with it. Oh yes, and I have a Skype! Um, hmm, should I post it here? Aw, what the heck. My skype is "thedreamersriddle". I'll check back to see if you want to be friends. 8D


 * Hmm.... If this was pre-2006, Id instantly "friend" you. These days eveythings more on a bsiness level.   don't have the ability to keep up with people in chat rooms and so forth, even my forum stuff was strickly business-like.  Maybe I come off as too serious?  I was very silly fangirl-like back in 2002-2006, to embarressing levels at times. What can I say, everyone grows up and what begins as silly squees becomes serious, almost nerd-levels, discussion instead. ^_^'


 * Its always good to have people become inspired to go into Vocaloid though. :-) One-Winged Hawk 12:32, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Only an Apology
Hiya, Angel! Mijumaru-san here. :)

I'm so terribly sorry about the "signature song" posts that I've made a while back. I meant to say "most recognizable," but I didn't know which correct words to use at the time.

That said, I'm no new fan and I've known about Vocaloid for quite some time now; in fact, I'm a huge fan of Vocaloid and have been enjoying it to its fullest since 2010.

I hope I haven't offended you in any way saying this. ^^; Mijumaru-san 09:06, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Gackpo Eye's
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18065321

^Confirms Native, Whisper, and Power only and shows their boxart. I was actually about to delete the eye thing because it actually looks numerous colours, though were I saw purple was around 1:19. His eyes also look grey and red in the other extend's art. Xeyuzio 21:51, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Really appreciated, now tomorrow I can finally make them their own seperate pages~ Xeyuzio 00:51, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

About the Language field in the Voicebank Infobox
I'm going to modify the Voicebank Template. I will add a #switch parse funtion. In tha way, writting the language's name automatically should add the correspoding icon Adept-eX 15:08, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Circus-P
Ah, I only choose that song because it's definitely one of SONiKA's more popular original songs and she sounds really, really well tuned in Repeat II, I really don't have a problem with You Know it. I just wanted to switch things up a bit since I feel like that song has been there a while. Xeyuzio 21:29, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

About Naming Order
Okay, I understand. Thanks for the explanation. :) Although I'm still wating for a response from Budai82. Mijumaru-san 19:15, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

information source?
Dear Angel Emfrbl,

Hi. Thank you for your contribution. We are doing investigation about video deletion problem in Youtube for over 6 months. We found that some spread information was wrong regarding Google and Crypton issue. We are investigating why this was happen. I found that you wrote following information in this wikia in February 2012:

>[CFM reported they would investigate the claims and try to resolve the matter with Youtube.]

http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Save_Miku?oldid=71928

Q1) Where is the evidence to support this information regardng Crypton? Where did you get this information? Could you tell me?

We also found spam which is telling similar message. We would like to thank you for your kind cooperation. Evidence and information:

http://savemiku.wikia.com/wiki/Case7-2_mikufan.com_Summary2

http://savemiku.wikia.com/wiki/Case7_mikufan.com

As we are telling in the new message under construction, problems are not over yet. There are additional problems as listed.

http://savemiku.wikia.com/wiki/New_Objective%2BMessage

Eng01 08:58, July 21, 2012 (UTC) Eng01

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=Angel Emfrbl=

Re: I can't reply
I understand completely. n_n Yes, its good racism should not be tolerated, but sometimes I think people need to be more aware of the specific definition of racism. People shouldn't get all touchy just mentioning someone is of a different race, or get mad at a comment saying that race isn't a reason to like someone more (which is a form of racism in itself, promoting someone because of their race) Really, the point is to be tolerant and accept the easy fact that it doesn't matter. ^-^

Yeah, its such a minefield. I think my head may have already been blown off, but I'll have to check the comments.

(It bugs me with religion, since although I don't mind at all what attitude people have personally, I am interested in the stories behind it, the creatures involved and suchlike. Its cool, but its so difficult to ask or discuss without someone assuming you are insulting something, or shushing you because it is a 'serious' subject. Mostly I have to stick to ancient religions, but the modern ones are just as interesting as myths and legends. D: I am quite a booky person, so I eat up tales and concepts. c[: )

Dizzyzebra (talk) 20:12, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

o: Thanks for the link. I'll have to watch that.

Yeah, I just...Some people sure do suck at religion. /(-_-)\

Dizzyzebra (talk) 09:26, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted illegal link
I deleted the message with the link. About banning the IP, I saw the guy didn't posted it with bad intentions. The guy actually was reporting the blog.

I think a warn and encourage him/her to create an account would be enough. Now about the blog... We need see how report it to Yamaha. Adept-eX (talk) 19:41, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Range Block
I'm considering to do a Range Block for stop the that annoying Spammer who lurks Merli's comment section. I've already checked the IPs, and all them only vary on their two last numbers.

What do you think I should do? Adept-eX (talk) 04:30, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Useful stuffs that you can find in Internet
Hey Angel! Check what I've found. A paper that talks about the perceptual phenomena in liguistic... basically why the Japanese tends to add a [u] or [o] for the single consonant in borrowed words. Quite interesting (and a good reference for various articles) Adept-eX (talk) 21:07, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

New Template
Hey Angel, I did a new template for make easier the tabbers for the Galleries. Already I test it and I must say, it works fine 8D. For now, only allows to load 7 tabs, if it's required I will increase it. What do you think about it? =)

Also I want to ask. Should we use the Wikia's showcase gallery or should we continue using the Template:Gallery for the articles's Gallery section. I'm tempted change the galleries to the first one, but I don't know. I think we should listen to the other contributors, first. Adept-eX (talk) 04:40, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

A question
I was trying to create a page for the song "Promise" and I found out that a page also titled Promise had been deleted in the past. Can I still make a page for it? BROOKLYN RAGE!...even though I&#39;m not from Brooklyn. (talk) 23:46, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. :) BROOKLYN RAGE!...even though I&#39;m not from Brooklyn. (talk) 10:26, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vocaloid footer
The footers are on the main Wikia site. here and here

Sorry for the wait; slow computer. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:16, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * lol thanks
 * I sign on about every two days or so. Just to make sure things are in order. I can be contacted, but I may not reply on the same day. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:00, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Angel,

Frank Sanderson has asked me to be remove all text and pictures and references from his association with PowerFX and Big Al. I would be very appreciative if you respected his wishes and removed the link and picture.

Thank you kindly,

Bil Bryant


 * Bil, I appricate your concerned (if this is you), however, if you want things like this sorted you must post it in the forum, I am not even a admin nor a beaucrat. I don't know, I'm currently trying to break my common assoication as it is with the main assoication of this wikia. Please don't come to me directly, I do not represent the whole wikia nor do I wish to be, this wikia is a community built for fans of the vocaloid software and I've had enough trouble getting it through to people at Vocaloid Otaku forums, leding me to ressign as beaucrat to make this sort of information clear to the non-believers.  Before this happened, I was accused of pretty uch being the wikia, which greatly upset me and is why I don't wish to handle things like this by myself; I'd rather include the other wikia editors here and let them handle this so they can be involved in the day to day runnings of the wikia.


 * But the issue is at hand anyway, even if we were to take it down, people know about it anyway and the information has been passed around; even we were just second-hand information even now and we were not the original source of this information. Our job is to collect the information thats known to the fandom; ditto its no different on wikipedia, and wikipedians will pretty much say a similair thing to you if you request them to take down information on the same subject.


 * A best beat would be to release a statement that would void our information, rather then request we take it down, because THAT is something that would render our information useless. I can't really say much else to help, as I said, wikipedia would throw out a similair statment and its got the same information on it.  I didn't put that there, nor did I even (I think) put the information here at the wikia since it was before I came to the wikia.


 * I express my sorry for not being able to help directly, but as I said, I'm trying to distance myself from this wikia right now to satisfy the whim of some less then helpful people at VO forums, and this literally the only thing I can really say. These days all I'm here for is maintaince and the od comments, although I'm a regulaur, I'm not a die-hard editor anymore.  I have not been for several months now. :-/  One-Winged Hawk (talk) 14:15, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

How long have you been interested in vocaloid?


 * As a serious subject, only October 2009. I owned a vocaloid in 2004.  Not it matters, I moved home last year in July time and left that one behind. I left a lot of things behind last year saying that since I had 1 week to get out of my dad's house and couldn't retrieve everything I wanted.  I did have that Vocaloi done briefly months before, but she didn't work (Lola) so I put her back in the loft and hence why I lost her.  Doesn't matter what anyone says the original vocaloid software doesn't always work so well. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 10:09, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re: #
According to Crypton's website, they aren't sharp notes, so that's why I removed them. ^^' AnimeCargirl (talk) 14:57, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Renaming the Blacklist
Hey Angel, I remembered that you expressed your corncern to rename the Blacklist because it sounds as an "ugly" label. I was thinking, why no rename it as List of Reports or Report Area. Adept-eX (talk) 20:38, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

hey angel
174.111.249.34 13:43, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

hey angel i have seen alot of your comments and i know youre a pretty blunt if youre are gonna pop someones bubble(like mine with nerus voice cause she has one) you should try to be nicer i relise how much you contributed to wikia and i appreciate but you should try to be nice.and are wikia contributers like demi-gods where they have dyslexia or add or adhd cause you and nasuhime have dyslexia and i think i have adhd (i am not sure).and you should change your icon to something like this.


 * Erm... Its not an owl... No I'm not changing it... I like this cute little guy. I have no reason to change it. As for everything else... I'd rather come off as a little blunt and harsh then to sweeten the truth and lie. In other words I'm here to break Vocaloid myths; not support them. I don't know I think its my age difference more then anything cotruibuting, back int he early 00's when I was a teenager I was a lot more fun and bubbly and I joined in jokes a lot more often.  But I'm 28 now, not 18, my "fun" years are over, in other words I'm more "mature" then then (how ever you define "mature"), yeah I make mistakes, I'm human and dyslexic, everyone has flaws thats mine.


 * I'm not too proud either to admit I'm not always spot on with things, its why at the end of the day I rely on others, I could never run this wikia when I was a beaucrat on my own and I found beaucrating too stressful to hold it up. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 16:40, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

I didnt mean lie i meant stuff like "sorry not to burst youre bubble but akita neru has a voice even if it is someone else and toned differently toneing can do wonders so yahe again not to rain on youre parade" and stuff like that but still the truth and i am sorry i was kinda rude on the akita neru page i am just a big fan of hers and i will protect her forever and allways

Oh and sorry i thought it was a owl [peace offering?]


 * I myself no offence to any Neru fans, I'm not a fn of fan-mades myself, I have been asking people to respeck others' opinions towards what their a fan of. True Neru isn't a vocaloid, but she still has signifance for what she represents.  The value in her is "there" but a loot of folks put it in the wrong place.  However, sadlty the wikia job is to get things out there and let the truth be known, so sometimes editors here, and the wikia itself can be a little cold in doing so.  But, there are thousands of Vocaloids fans out there, and we've dealt with everything from bias to stupidity.  So thus, sometimes we over step the mark and treat everyone the same, in a tone that is very much the cold-hearted truth.  This is what I was trying to say before.


 * We're still learning to be more warmer, but please, frogive some of us, if you dealt with only a fraction of what we have to deal with you' understand why we tend to be a bit... you know... On certain issues. It cannot be helped and there are worst places out there then here at the wikia.


 * Also you should sign up, so we can know you more. There is also a Fanloid wikia link on the main page, which takes you to a wikia where Neru and co are the kings of their own wikia.  Whereas here, their overshadowed by the real Vocaloids. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 09:38, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

yeah i am asking my dad for a e-mail account so i can sign in and i am sorry but i prefer to try i boost neru up at least to rin/len standards and what do you think about rin/len twins mirror images boyfriend/girlfreind or len being rin great grandfather?

and with the last comment i hope i made you laugh or at least snicker cause my goal in life is to 1)spread christianity 2) make neru known and more liked 3) make everbody i know laugh once

are you on or are you ignoring me?

and i see that you are not always mean and you probaply dont try yo be but its that you are only really nice to other wikia members and blunt to wikia comtributers and if you want to know about me i am 12 years old a boy tall for my age blonde with blue gray eyes vocaloid is my life i am christian i am friends with nasuhime my favorite vocaloids are len,neru,piko,and rin my favorite song is the first war aginst myself by piko and len i am a fan on fandom i a very ignorant unswayably and ,sadly, deeply opionated and i protect all of the things i love i am currently trying to get a e-mail accoutn so i can sign in and contribute and love anime life final fantasy sailor moon pretty cure bleach naruto one piece kingdom hearts and i love vocaloid i prefer manga to anime but most of all i am a christian otaku and i repeat myself and i hate haters and i love taylor swift and hillary duff


 * I don't want to sound rude and I'm not trying to be, so don't take this. I'm not ignoring you, but I don't always answer messages as soon as their written.  sometimes no one intends to ignore others on wikias, but we can't always be here 24-7 and some folks might only visit us once or twice a week.  Sure I'm here every day, but I tend to spend a lot of time reading over things to see whats been done since I last visit and go about so sometime my focus isn't on messages and its on editing.  :-D


 * 12 is nothing, I've been in the beyblade fandom, we had kids as young as 8 in that fandom back in 2003. ;-)


 * I'm not a religious person, and I have to keep a more open mind. Religion to me is something I hold in one hand but I never put it in the other.  Some guys on-line are easily offend and the last thing you need is a fury of hypocrits telling you "You are the spawn of hell", not that I have.  The wrost I ever had was some American priest in a message board telling me as I was British I was part of that cult that worshipped the Bishop and all that crap.  He never DID answer my question... Kinda just ranted on about things not on topic. ^_-


 * I'm not against Neru fans, but people need to figure out what she means to the Voclaoid fandom, many live under false pretendance rather then acceptance and yet acceptance brings peace within the fandom. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 18:51, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

i am actually kinda relising i am kinda a hypocrit for tellung you to be nice when i am not much better so sorry :#p and i am kinda inpetient and ADHD not to mention i dont have much to do cause i just moved to a house so i dont have alot to do and i shouldnt be telling you how to live youre life so again sorr[http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rbo/lowres/rbon97l.jpg. peace offering]?


 * Everyone does mistakes and this one wasn't one that required forgiveness; yourspeaking to someone whose been on the net since about 1998/1999 and has heard and seen a lot worst. Humans are born to make mistakes so they learn from them, to make no mistakes is to learn nothing. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 19:22, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

well i am apolagizing cause it is christian nature and think think you should consider it i mean i am not trying to get all witness-ey and stuff but (as you saw in my lifes goals) i am trying to spread christianity and i dont reallt care about people who critisize me for it i just keep on keeping on - 16:03, October 15, 2012‎ 174.111.249.34

Larval Rin and Shiteyanyo
Since Larval Rin and Shiteyan'yo are only available on Project Diva as background skins, I was thinking about deleting their pages and moving the contents to Derivatives. Either that or Project Diva page itself. Because there is little that can be said about them on this wiki. I can redirect their names to Fanloid instead or whatever page the content ends up on. The exception with Calne is that was marketed outside of PD. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:56, October 15, 2012 (UTC) eta Do you mind if I archive your talk page? -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:11, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

re:hey angel
and i was wondering who is your favorite vocaloid the only english i know are oliver and luka and luki(if you consider him one) and piko speaks some english in the first war against myself but thats it. and know you said you arent a fan of fanmades but i was wondering who is youre favorite and who is you favorite of vocaloid china? and what is youre favorite song and how old are you and what is youre gender? well the unwritten(typed?)4th life goal for me is to make as many friends as i can that probaply came from when i lived in englend it was misreble i didnt have and friends i dont like history museams and the weather was horrible for THREE STICKEN YEARS ONLY 12 DAYS WAS IT NOT RAINY OR COLD TWEEEELVE DAAAAYS. well any what state do you live in? i live in north carolina.

P.S. do you like final fantasy

P.P.S still trying to make you laugh!pls tell me if i did


 * There is no Luki.... Piko can't do English... I have no favourite fanmades. Tonio is my favourite Vocaloid, 2nd Big Al.   I'm 28 years old, female. England is not perfect but better then most places in the world.  If you spent 3 years in the UK, you should know the weather ain't perfect nor is it glorious, but some places are better then others.  Where did you live?   There is more in the UK then that... Okay, Carolina is prob. sunnier, but its better then snow all year round and you get used to it.  You appricate sunny days more when they do come.


 * I live in Norfolk. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 15:44, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

i used to live in a little village/town called pinner 174.111.249.34 11:45, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

and sorry i didnt mean to be disrespectfull it just i was homeschooled and my mom loves history so we went to a history museam almost everyday and i dont really like history museams and. You like beyblade pls tell me the old series cause i dont really like the new one


 * I'm not offended, I just found it a bit odd of a reaction. You worry too much.  You've not thrown insults directly at me so why would I be even the slightest bit offended? ^_^


 * I was there when G-Revolution was released in English, watching it and squeeling... Yeah... Everyone's allowed to be a fangirl/boy once in their life. Even if I found the new series appealing, I'm now past those days, being 28 and not a teenager anymore.  Things were better when there was bit-beasts in it. Miond you, yugioh was like that, 5D was in my opinion better then the original since it had more plot and in-depth storyline.  Jaden's GX series can toss itself off a cliff... One-Winged Hawk (talk) 11:57, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

i actually like the original better and i prefer gx to 5ds cause i just prefer it that way i quess i am deathly afriad i will offend alot of people with anything i do i dont know why just a thing and i am a bit paraniod and i like big al to i forgot to mention and my favorite for vocaloid china is moke i quess i havent listen to them yet but i like his desine end personality

btw oyu can tell you are one of the best on vocaloid wiki because of your talk page and how big it is 174.111.249.34 14:35, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well yugioh is better as a card game then as a TV series, that much I'kll agree on. However, I prefer to play it on a video game version, its cheaper and means I don't have to store 7,000+ cards... Which is the number of cards I have on the 2010 DS game. I must admit I feel uncomfortable judging languages with just 1 vocal for them, I often feel bad about saying stuff about SeeU for that reason but it is why I'd prefer they make a friend for SeeU then a english library.


 * I think the size of my talk page as more to do with time been here and amount of editing I've done in the past, plus I was once beaucrat. I used to attempt all sorts of things to try and get this wikia to take off, many I'm not proud of.  I have always been fairly nervous about being involved with any community since I've been in several where several dramas tore things apart.  I've left Volaoid Otaku forums after one such drama, I'm not usually involved with them but it seems to be it happens in whatever forums I'm in.  Worst is still by far dragon caves, though I mention it I'm too angry over what happened to talk about it anymore.  Its in the past, and since I've gone back to the site recently, I don't want to stir up trouble since I sided with what most cavers would have considered the wrong person to side with.  One-Winged Hawk (talk) 16:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

i kinda understand i hate getting in over my head so i am not really commenting anymore for now and i am working on vocaloid lyrics wiki with nasuhime and E.o.M.01

174.111.249.34 12:57, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Kaiko
Want me to delete Kaiko page? Crypton doesn't seem to acknowledge genderswaps, no matter how popular they are. Unless that Tweet and be expanded on? -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:30, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm... It seemed like a good idea at the time, but with no further mentions beyond that tweet I don't know. Your right I guess. I'm bout to sig off, shouldn't Larvel Rin be safe on here too?  Just asking since I'm LITERALLY about to sign off, I'll read any messages in the morning. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 22:06, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I moved Shiteyan'yo and Larval Rin to the Derivative page because their content was short. They don't exactly have Calne Ca's status being outside of Project Diva. But oddly Calne Ca is not as popular as them. It took quite a while before the Japanese fandom warmed up to her, since praise for her was mostly coming from English speaking fans.
 * I'll check one more time for Kaiko on Crypton's end, and if I can't find anything else I'll delete the page. But I actually do hope that they look beyond the purpose and see her as a character. So far only Artech has shown to like genderswaps. -- Bunai82 (talk) 22:38, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * eta Obviously deleted the page lol. I found no true connection of Kaiko with Crypton, and even the Japanese fandom wondered about it. There were some arguments of disliking gender change by the company. Of course speculation, but it is noticeable. And that early image of Kaiko's design was deleted by the artist with statements of there being no gender change (or something around those lines). Very weird.


 * I was thinking about directing Kaiko's page to the Derivative page because between her and Mikuo they are the most known and popular. And also, I was wondering why I kept seeing the main Vocaloids connected to the Fanmade page, turns out the "Fanmade Vocaloids based from "Vocaloid"" is still on the page 0_o;; lol oops. Would you like it completely removed or would you like me to link to the Fanloid wiki with it? -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:16, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do what you feel most past for both wikias, though redirect is prob. the best approach rather then flat out deletion. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 15:46, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, remove it. I can just link it from derivatives if I can think of a layout. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:52, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted page - CV04
Why was this deleted? I went to link it from the Nav template and noticed it was gone.

That and the info in it could have been used for the Answer wiki. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:47, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought its best to reduce the page until we got more information, his been nothing more then a code. the other issue was, I didn't see "CV04" written anywhere, but I did see his listed as "next male vocal" and "next character vocal" so technically he hasn't been called that yet.  Maybe you know otherwise, but for now his pretty much known as just "next male vocal".  I left it on Status until further notice, it felt like things were open to speculation.


 * You prob. disagree, but I regarded at the time as "CV04" as a little buit too much speculation for my confort, we needed proof that CFM called him that. I did, however, find out he isn't part of the origtinal CV plan since they had Miku, Luka and the Kagamine's planned, so he seems to have been a late addition. I don't know, with a lot of mystery surrounding him, I kinda want him to stay on Status until CFM is done and ready for him. the proto-type vocal-flex and project if are different matters as they "complete" in terms of all current known data and do pocess offical names. We can't really go much wrong with them and there is no speculation room because of it. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 16:43, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply ^_^
 * I guess I can leave a black link or redirect it to the status page. I got confused since another page with a similar title was deleted, and it was basically spam. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:10, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox voicebank
I just noticed that the reason the dates are not showing up is because the parameters were done in lowercase form, while the parameters on the page were done with a capitals. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:52, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

On another note
I went nutso with the Answer wiki and peoples constant need to ask about Rin and Len.

I made a 'notice/relationship' template that links to all the pages that ask question about two Vocaloids being paired in any manner. I will be organzing the Answer wiki for another month, since I missed like an entier summers worth of wiki time due to my computer. People can make additions to the pages if they feel an answer should be given (even though it repeats), but that template must remain. I will end up locking pages form creation when it comes to that 'lower case bypassing'. -- Bunai82 (talk) 04:41, November 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I laughed when I saw it. XD


 * Okay, I know its been rather annoying lately on the nswer wikia so I had been trying to help out myself when I could find the time. The other issue I find with it, is that there are often incorrect answers given. Or people swap out the correct ones with incorrect ones.


 * At the very least, when a correct answer is given, the answer also needs to be locked ASAP. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 10:59, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

What part of the Vocaloid template is not being used
I plan to rebuild it based on whatever parameter is not in use.

I also want to use a hid function on the section headers. If not that, then I will make a template that can be manipulated like the default template with its "TitleRow" and "InfoRow" options. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:36, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Be my quest, I would have no other ideas myself otherwise and if you have more ideas then its fine. Since we've got a new Vocaloid, my focus for the next week si seeing what comes out of Avanna, therefore my focus is on her right now mostly. With new vocaloids you never know when the next bit of information will come out. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 16:11, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * lol quest
 * For now I'll just go through the pages and add lowercase to the parameter, also 'Developer' changed to 'Company'... totally forgot why I did that. I guess when the other Misc. Vocaloids came about it was harder to pin who exactly was developing them.


 * I will assume 'origin' is no longer in use. And then the 'JAN code' parameter to consider removing, since Vocaloid has gone beyond being a Japanese product now, and Crypton isn't going to distribute every Vocaloid they are competing against. When it was just CFM and ZeroG it was cute, now it is virtual "fisticuffs" lol. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:53, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can only blame dyslexcia since I mixed up G and Q and wrote "quest" instead of "guest". God, I hope I don't start doing that all over the place from now on, usually when I make a mistake I continue doing it because I've "learnt"! the spelling. =_=


 * I usually don't alter information boxes as its not something I'm focused on, the most I do is add new ones to pages and try and do a rough attempt at playing with colours to start us off. Its not I don't understand the coding, its that owed to the dyslexcia situation, over the years I've had to retire from writing out codes from scratch since I've made too many blunders I couldn't fix. Now, the best I can safely do is Copy and PAste someone elses' code from one place to another. The mistakes I kept on making sap most of my confidence away in playing heavy with wiki codes back in 2007 when less clumsey editors came to the One Piece wikia who didn't trip over their own finger tips. Even when I came here, I said I'd only prompt up this wikia until I was no longer needed and better editors came along, because I'm aware of what went down in the past.


 * Neverless, I still have ideas and thoughts and advice at times.... The codes are mostly redundant, yes, though product code itself (CV01 for itself, or ZG-V6) are still useful.  Though I think they belong these days more with the voicebank sections then in the info box.  The codes bit is pretty much just left overs from the era when we used to write up the optimum range and tempo data stuff in the information box.  However, when Appends became a regular thing and the updating of voicebanks occured, these sections could no longer sit comfortably in the information box.


 * Also, I know I recently added the genre categories on vociebank templates... May I enquire if you can give me your thoughts on them? I kinda want to add these sort of things to the templates, but I'm not sure they've been done in a suitable way. :-/


 * Also... Not signing your posts? You noob Bunai (J/k lol XD). One-Winged Hawk (talk) 17:06, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * lol. I get so focused on typing I believe I add the tildes. This usually happens when I type a full sentence, then keep rereading it till I get it how I want it.


 * I'll be keeping the 'Reduced number'. On Crypton it is 'Reduced/Short code' (in Japanese it is various versions of reduction etc), not sure if I should copy that or just leave it as is. It was the original admin who did the whole infobox anyway. And yeah, it got confusing and pointless when the additional voice banks appeared... its like a messy catalog now lol. So Additional Info may disappear in favor of Affiliation and Reduced number being moved to the Product section.
 * Adding the 'Genre' does give the missing parameter something to do heh. But isn't it just Crypton, ZeroG, and PowerFX that have this? -- Bunai82 (talk) 17:51, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Unfortantely, sometimes critics like to tug at things that were done pre-the current editors. Though we SHOULD have sorted things out, we don't always notice things. We can only do our best, nothing less and nothing more and no one here is committed to stick aroudn or edit to begin with. As for things to do with the information box.  Info boxes are pretty much just a quick look up, so they should be relatively easy to read and to the point with the essental information.  Priority changes all the time on information, as the previous append example proved, I don't think we can function without the voicebank templates so their the easily method of setting up a page. I can't really say though what belongs specifically on info box or the voicebank boxes, as its up to the editors judgements here.  But, I will note that updates *might* not have the same codes as the original so things MIGHT be better off in voicebank sections in regard to things like CV-01 and so fourth.


 * Oh heres one for the books too; AT vo forums when I used to visit there, I kept trying to write the 4 "~" at the end of my posts. XD One-Winged Hawk (talk) 18:24, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * After torturing myself with the coding, I managed to get things stable. So all the parameters function. I will work on image, font size, and box size later.
 * You can now use two hide options for Vocaloids that do not have bio stats. So that takes care of VY series. There are now lines to make things a bit easier to pick out.


 * I was unsure to keep the Reduced number to the Vocaloid box or the voicebank box. My suggestion is to keep it to the Vocaloid box. Just see how it goes. -- Bunai82 (talk) 23:39, November 11, 2012 (UTC) eta spoke too soon on the hidden header thing. Doesn't seem to work on this wiki. I'll ask the CommunityCentral what is wrong.

Sorry for sticking it here, but that message was getting too long and I couldn't work out how many ":" to use. XD

I saw the results just briefly, it might be we've not got something switched on or our version of the wikia system uses a different code variantion (some wikias have plug-ins/mods implimented into them too, don't know if any of the wikia wikis have this though). One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:31, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * With help from central, someone showed that it was a quotation that was the issue and they fixed it. I copied that to the voicebank template. It should work now. And apparently you don't need to type 'none', just anything and it will hide the header. Woo, I am learning so much. I wish I could get through a template without depending on others but oyi... I am not that skilled with Wikia yet. I will continue to learn over time.


 * I may swap out the table for voicebank with the original one, just to see if that can downsize the box a bit. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:43, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you didn't have the problem fixed by now, I was going to make "please excuse us, maintaince in progress" notice on the front page. Still, I'm glad your onot it. :-)


 * I've been looking after my landlady today, she is ill, so aside from updating name sections, I've not been able to do much. She lost one of her cats on Friday and it only hit home last night.  The cat was on her bed (except for things like food and kitty litter moments of course) for over 8 years, nt to mention the cat was one of the last links to her husband who died 2 years ago.  My landlady had no sleep last night at all and there is consquences today... Caught her doing on-line gambling this morning to try and drown out her miseries.  And the whole day sleep has been catching up with her. Yeah... Its one of THOSE days. ^_-  One-Winged Hawk (talk) 17:15, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Do you know about this wiki?

Not sure what to think or the reason for its creation (besides the obvious). -- Bunai82 (talk) 06:43, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * What? Competing with our own? I wouldn' worry about it anyway, instead of trying to compete with it, its best just to focus on doing stuff here.  The one thing they can't be is both a carbon copy of our wikia and copy everything we have here (our files, they have to gather their own versions of everything), so its best to chill and be cool about it.  From experience, most of the other wikias for vocaloid that were set up to do the things we do fizzzled anyway.  The only thing would be to watch, is that it doesn't become a place to sling mud at us, we don't need inter-wiki fighting.  Plus the other thing is, being so new, they don't have any editors yet which limits things a little nor do they have established visitors, so for a while it'll be very slow for the other wikia. We've got about a thousand pages and have lots of things covered already. :-/


 * So yeah, just focus on being what we are and not on them, don't let our members compete or start fights or even react here to its actions that might intrude on our own. Its okay to talk, but keep critism tamed as we DON'T want another situation with VO forums, only with us being the critics.  As for the regulaurs, we just need to focus on the current wikia, ignoring that one and let things play out.  And no matter what keep things CLEAN, we should be encouraging others to attempt to promote vocaloid, even if its just to start up another wikia.  After all, that was one of our primary goals when I came here and it will always be.


 * I can't really much, its newly created and hasn't even got a single page up yet, it could be just a creation for the sake of creation and there is no worry at all. As I said, a lot of wikia fizzle out and so far no vocaloid wikia besides our wikia and its circle has managaed to maintain any projects long enough to get established.   :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:40, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, that was an encouraging speech XD
 * It's just a bit bothersome that a previous editor doesn't want to contribute here anymore when they were quite active before. I have no problems with two wikis on the same subject, the more the merry etc, etc. But you kind of want it to build on its own without the content importing from various wikis, by that point it just Frankenstein-ing.
 * It reminds me of when people got all upset over the mlp wiki following canon format about a background pony and decided to just copy every last page to a non-wikia. It was just a silly move and the person who headed it was a former sysop (if I remember correctly). -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:22, December 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * We're allow to share the same information, as there is only so many ways you can enter data into a wiki page. I've been in that situation myself before with the One Piece wikipedia pages back in 2006.  Some idiot decided to claim the wikipedia pages were copying his website because one or two lines were identical to the website and the page got deleted from wikipedia.  Thing is... We didn't copy his website and I got peeved because I was the one who entered it.  But... We had other issues with the guy even when we moved over to the actualy wikia.  He cursed us and ranted over us calling a movie 'canon' because Oda wrote it, but Oda had wrote it TO be canon, even wrote Chapter 0 to aolidify its placement in One Piece timeline.  Then again, Greg is an ass...


 * He also didn't like it when some folks decided to upload images from his website, though I pointed out he didn't actually own One Piece and while people should not be doing that by law and all, he pretty much didn't have muchof a leg to stand on, since there were other issues he hadn't taken into account. There are 'ways' to get around the copying of other websites anyway, not I would stoop to that level but I know them because I've seen them in action. :-/


 * Back to the point (Sorry, I went off, Greg sort of really pissed me off and I tend to go off about him), another wikia being set up is an issue I can deal with, hence what I said. The anti-wikia guys are a bigger issue because their excluding themselves from helping the wikia completely and want no part of it.  At least the wiki-edtors at another wikia are in the same business of editing... That, we can deal with any day fo the week.  Its also possible for the two wikia to communicate on friendly terms anyway, two wikia can be set up with different goals and share information without problems.  Anti-wiki guys kinda don't trust our pages, even when we get it right, I've seeen folks in other fandoms also take everything on a wiki page as a lie and not believe it... :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 16:52, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Remember this template
Vocaloid_Reception. Maybe it should be brought back. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:20, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

A hilarious Pewdiepie video
Picked this one out specifically *BROFIST* Reply if you can. Clicky!

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Want me to just delete the black list or just rename it? Even if you are not an admin now, you have a history with it.

I can ask others for more confirmation.

-- Bunai82 (talk) 02:09, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename. As much as I hate that page, its suppose to serve the wikia a purpose. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 10:17, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I deleted it, I am not in a good mood
 * I will restore it or just simplify it down to the most basic form. -- Bunai82 (talk) 10:25, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Bad mood?


 * Don't blame you then, that page brought me no end of trouble as it was when I was a beaucrat.


 * I'm relieved though, feels like a gentle breeze has blown by and removed all the autumn leaves from the ground.One-Winged Hawk (talk) 11:18, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * At least it was a motivator to complete some templates and pages.
 * Anyway, I called it Noindex, at least the name hints at what can't be done. I'll attempt to make it less dictating and more aimed at editors of the wiki.

On another note. -- Bunai82 (talk) 18:39, December 30, 2012 (UTC)