Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-35301431-20150124185052/@comment-25618373-20150125092130

Angel Emfrbl wrote: @Adeptx, I thought he general acceptance after Lily V2 was that Demos are to be taken with a pinch of salt. The issue tends to be certain producers almost always try and use every vocaloid they get their hands on the same way as every other vocaloid before them... With consequence in favour for the vocal or against it.

I.e.; a Vocaloid user used to pitching up vocals will pitch up a new vocal even when its focused on a lower range and sounds horrible in the process.

@Evil; If you read the developement notes, they go on about how every Vocaloid has mislabelled sounds. They comment on how a lot its either during the recording or construction process this occurs. They then change the script so it doesn't occur... Except... Who gave the studios the studios the stuff in the first place? Yamaha. So Yamaha basically created something that companies struggled to get right because it wasn't user friendly.

But they don't flat out state "the original devs made this problem", the only blame they put is on the studios. They then go on and on throughout the interview about "fixing" the script to make things better. So the whole thing is about their valiant efforts to fix a problem, and they undermind the cause of it.

Its also easy to miss another clue from the interview if your not careful that highlights a certain bit of the problem. they mention at one point having to hire two teachers to even out the team because more then half of it is Japanese and they didn't know when the English sounds were off.

So basically, a bad development early on has impacted the franchise for English for over 10 years. Resolving the issue has now occurred but due to Vocaloid being the property of a Japanese company, a research/dev group might end up with some hindrance in areas that are awkward. Even back in the V1 era, there were Japanese devs, be it they only worked on the interface and most research was done in Spain, but even then, the issues stem from V1 haunted the software for about a decade.

As I said several tiems, little developments like quality of aduio occured and experience gain, but there were still many other issues beyond that. :-/

I don't know if its worth really thinking about it too hard... Since the focus drifted over to Japanese vocaloids mostly we've had to wait for a while for the changes to be fixed.

Now all that remains either way is to see how well she does. Lots of positive views and "I wanna buy her" doesn't always result in success. It kinda goes back to that "popularity =/= success" issue that plagues SeeU whenever judging how well she has done. I'm just curious if all engloids are going to use Cyber Diva's system from now on.