Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20160713122023/@comment-53539-20160815113628

EmbraceEvil wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0yo8BREgD0

Steampianist's Secrets of Wysteria has reached the 1mil mark! YAY!

Just reduced down all the sections at the Chipspeech wikia. I'd rather there be 2 or 3 full sections then 12 with 1 or 2 words in them. Some were redundant. Had already done that at the A/Ego wikia. Added a tab system to the main page... Which I'll do also to the Voiceroid page today as well while I'm at it.

Things have about gotten to where I wanted them to be, so there is only one thing left to do before I finish up which I'm going to set in motion today. After that, the wikias will be fine to sit until someone else who wants them comes along.

It would be nice if things like song pages began to appear on the 2 wikias... But I'm not the one to do that... I now my place on wikis. :-/

I'm mixed when it comes to the Spanish vocals, Giuseppe is one of those producers that was great t first... But for one reason or another soured. I compare him to myself, because my opinion of the fandom itself is also low. But Giuseppe got onto a high horse and almost seemed too "Vocaloid for the experts" instead of "Vocaloid for everyone" which I disagree on. Its only by getting more users to the software that you get more better results and limited users results in limited ways the software will move foward. In short, you can't have the best of something and not the worst at the same time.

Without he fandom, Vocaloid would still be obscure... Yet... I thin he preferred it in those days. I often found when I first joined in regards to Engloids, that people spoke about them and didn't actually say stuff that was true, or said stuff they thought was true and later it turned out not to be. He sat through the thic and thin of all of the change from pre-Miku era to not so long ago.

From his POV, as mine since I had a gap between about 2004/5 to 2009, things changed a lot. And I must admit, it was all overwhelming. For a producer with a lot of pride in his work, Giuseppe would have gone through all this change and with it, a wave of new now-it-all fans who often speak without having the facts at hand. Consider this, we only now whats on the outside of Vocaloid and rarely the background, of which he had contact with via Zero-G and PowerFX. So for some of us, what we say maybe contradicts what he knows.

But it seems LUAN was just the nail in the coffin for the last 4 years he seemed to be a volcano about to erupt. I can't judge the Spanish vocals since I do not now much spanish at all...

I can remember the argument here over the "r" sound of Bruno and/or Clara... And how it basically amounted to "shut up, you don't know nothing!" and I think he ended up thinking our wikia was poison. :-/

I do not care though if Lucia and Luan had generic vocals or whatever, the final product wouldn't matter. Some things like the accent issue were minor arguments spanish speakers would have to have dealt with only for a few releases until focus shifted and studios were happy. People don't know what they want until they have it sometimes, this is the same for vocaloid.

I still am puzzled how Giuseppe could not know LUAN's vocalists problems though... What went wrong there? Why did Gius mess up so badly with that one? =_=