User talk:Bunai Di/Archive 7

Updating view counts
Hey, I noticed a few days ago that users are updating view counts on song pages manually so I made a script that I can run through my bot to update view counts on pages automatically. It currently supports fetching view counts from YouTube, SoundCloud, Vimeo and Niconico but I can get it to support other providers in the external template (bilibili, AcFun, piapro, 5Sing, VocaDB and Bandcamp) if needed. Here and here are example edits it made. What do you think about running the bot on articles and should I run it through a set of pages for testing?

Cheers! -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  09:46, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * I like the idea, I just have a few hang-ups.
 * The amount of times it updates.
 * The amount of views needed before updating.
 * How it can distinct between a widely views songs vs. a low viewed one.
 * If things work out I would like it marked as a bot. 17:20, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * It can run in whatever interval of time you want. I'm okay with it being run every day as long as the YouTube/Vimeo API calls don't reach the daily limit (and they probably won't)
 * You mean the difference in views between what's currently on the page and the updated ones? I can set the needed difference to make an edit to whichever number you want.
 * It currently doesn't, but as the APIs I'm using can also return the upload date of the video I can set a limit in the average amount of views per day that the video needs to reach for the script to be updating its views (if you want me to)
 * -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  21:00, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Something like a week and half later. The pages don't need constant updating.
 * Fact is we are still debating on when to update for viewcounts. I don't find it something to be in dire need to do as views take time.


 * At the moment I am thinking 50 to 100, but it depends on the popularity. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:40, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess I could set myself a reminder to run the bot manually every 10 days (if it was every day I could've made it automatic).
 * Alright.
 * Is that 50-100 views since the last view count update or average 50-100 views per day since it was uploaded?
 * Also, which set of pages could I run the bot on as a test? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  03:12, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * The last view count. Allowing things to accumulate first.
 * Overall what is easier for you to attempt? And it would make sense to get others to discuss here as well.


 * Testing can be done with SONiKA's song category. 04:00, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I have now run the bot on pages of Category:Songs featuring SONiKA and you can see the results in its contributions. One thing I have noticed that might be an issue is that on Desire (AdyS song), the last view count is displayed in a new row and therefore wasn't updated along with the others. Is that intentional, and do you see any other issues with the bot's current contributions? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  18:11, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to a number or the Vocallective upload? 18:31, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

I'm referring to this:

Because of the bullet point on a new line, the bot doesn't see the last link and therefore doesn't update its view count. Is it intentionally in a bullet point on a new line or could that also be changed to:
 * links =
 * Vocallective upload

|links =  Vocallective upload or

|links = Vocallective upload ? If not, I guess I could update the bot to find these links as well, it would just be harder to make sure there are no false positives caught. -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  18:40, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I guess the last editor to update the page to Song box 2 was trying to make it look like the original format. So no, the bullet point doesn't need to be there at all. -- Bunai82 (talk) 19:06, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I suppose there should be no issue with those then. Do you see any other issues in bot's contributions that need fixing and do you want me to run it on another set of pages? Also, should a community discussion (on Discussions, I suppose?) be raised about this before giving bot rights to the bot? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  19:13, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Things seem to look fine.
 * I guess Wiki Discussions; until I figure out the feature more. -- Bunai82 (talk) 20:04, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, I made a post here now. -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  06:38, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been a week since the post was made. Could you contact FANDOM Staff about the bot rights and can I start running the bot on articles after they assign them? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  16:27, October 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I drifted off. I sent the request so things should be good after a day or two. 16:44, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  16:45, October 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * You can run the bot on some English Vocaloid categories if you want.
 * Today seems to be slow. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:50, October 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Sorry about that
It's okay, i forgive you. As a matter of fact, this isn't the first time a block like this happened to me. – &#34;I&#39;m not your puppet, puppet master...&#34; (talk) 22:27, December 4, 2018 (UTC)

Just a note
http://vocaloid.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Information_about_VOCALOID_relationships#Official_Character_relationships

I rewrote this page to be a bit more on point.

Its 3am almost and my brain is shutting down for sleep, perhaps I should have left a note on the answers wiki? The edits I just did used the last of the brain power I had without sleep pretty much,, just enoughleft for this note and I'm off line.

I just resorted to re-directing relationship questions to this page and I'm using it as a "catch all" answer page, hence a rewrite. I read a lot of answers and their nature is so sloppy and varied it was going to take too long to rewrite every question... Plus most just were about the same pairings with the majority just being about the Kagamines. Different answers by people varied a lot and were rarely professional.

I hope you don't mind all this... It just made life easier, plus gave some notice to Vocaloids other then the CFM ones in a answer hopefully. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 02:49, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Adminship help
Bunai! .w./

Because you're one of the bureaucrats of Vocaloid Wiki, could you remove [User:Umbreon126] as an admin and replace with User:Xuanmien? Umbreon moved to this account. I will ask the other bureaucrats too. Thank you!

- NebulousViper Talk Page  20:56, December 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hm, I realized that I did't finish dealing with subpages. Could you temporarily restore the admin rights to the old account so that I can delete a few more things? (oops) Xuanmien (talk) 03:36, December 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * done! Xuanmien (talk) 22:01, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Testing Theme.css
It looks like the links aren't following the color scheme of the rest of the infobox because of:

and the default link/redlink styling. That can be prevented by changing rules like:

to:

Would something like that work for you, and if yes, should I do the mass-replacement to add that and provide you with the new CSS?

Also, which page tabs do you mean? -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  11:37, December 29, 2018 (UTC)


 * Wow, lol that was simple, thanks for the clarification. ^_^;;
 * Would this work if I moved both gallery parameters to one Navigation instead?


 * As for the tabbers, it is the [:Template:Navbar Voicebanks]; which reacts by calling upon the Template:Vcolor. -- Bunai Di (talk) 19:06, December 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Ideally, you would add additional classes to each of the CSS rules that are already for PI themes, for example:


 * would turn into


 * And then you will be able to use  instead of   to achieve the same effect. However, knowing that FANDOM's portability parser dislikes custom classes like that, you may also do something like:


 * and use  instead.
 * As for the navigation tags, the links in them will be styled regardless of the number of navigation tags so I think there won't be a difference.
 * -- Cube - shaped   garbage can  22:56, December 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, if you used the  approach, the style attributes should be changed to   instead. --  Cube - shaped   garbage can  16:22, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Bruno and clara
No, they were never released as one product. Even now the main mascot page is only slightly different, but their product pages have a lot more changes if only for the voicebank and info box. The main issue is we've got to stick to our practice of only merging pages that were released as one to begin with as they are, or change the practice.

I will note that there is more case for separate pages for all mascots, including Anon & Kanon and the Kagamines (who are responsible for this to begin with) then there is for merging them. And the few times people have reacted, seem to indicate they prefer each mascot have their own page. We don't do that because of the Kagamines as I noted, so what you propose is not the popular consensus among our readers even if its popular among a handful of our editors. I personnelly side with the readers on all Vocaloids each having their own pages, but we treated things originally as though they were not.

Caught up in this is Macne Petit, but she wasn't released with Nana until Vocaloid and has always had her own separate release. There has only ever been 1 person question this so far though as the majority know the situation with the Macnes.

I don't think there is an issue either with them having separate pages, as I said time if the main factor in this and they had very little information so far to say. This is unfortunate, but unless you want to make a change that changes the entire wikis practices, I don't see a special case for them. A lot of the issue amounts to how unpopular and underused they are for a good part of the situation. we're talking about 2 Vocaloids who are less popular the Leon and Lola the oldest two Vocaloids. Half of it is though, people look at Maika and would rather buy her (often because they believe she can do "English" as good as English Vocaloids, which is nonsense as we both know, but you can't unsell an idea the fandom gets into its head) over Clara and Bruno. We can't change this situation.

Still its not like I can stop you if you want, but if you do it to Bruno ad clara, just bare in mind their 1 of several pairs like Dex/Daina, Leon/Lola who all would need the same treatment, consistencies help other editors know where they stand and without that, when you and I retire form this editing circuit, they will be only able to use existing pages as a guide. I mean, I can think of very good reasons to separate the Kagamines compared to the reasons for Bruno and Clara. Because the argument for merging is basically "most of their information is the same" whereas the Kagamines its "even their promotion and marketing is different, as well as their reputations". One-Winged Hawk (talk) 14:37, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Vote closed
Hello. The vote here for new admins and moderators closed, so we're wondering what the plan of action should be taken. If you could come to discord, that'd be even better. Thanks! -- akumi   (need something~?)  21:26, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

EVEC and XSY
You cannot merge the EVEC stuff with XSY, their not the same function.

Furthermore, EVEC is now appearing with V3 Miku releases, but the thing is... EVEC is not able to be access by these vocals. I know it was annoying, but EVEC only works for Piapro studio and has nothing to do with Vocaloid itself. Vocaloid just references things, their separate things.

Please address the issue, Yamaha did not make EVEC, Crypton Future Media.

Merging things that aren't related to each other doesn't work. 15:02, February 11, 2019 (UTC)


 * Fixed it, never mind, the EVEC function was still on the template for voicebanks so all I had to do was remove "EVEC group". One-Winged Hawk (talk) 15:32, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

Another issue, your XSY new group system broke Miku V3, not the XSY stuff doesn't appear to tab with... Ah... Forget it.... I'm just undoing the lot. Its going to take me a moment to figure out whats been done to fix the issue. One-Winged Hawk (talk)

Okay, so when you repaired the template on Jan, 19th, it fixed the template according to whatever you were doing but stopped the XSY tabbing. So ou fixed it by creating templates to hold the V4 XSY stuff... Fine. But you didn't fix the V3 Miku XSY information entirely. You added for v4x a EVEC group, not needed as they is no such thing. Am I right so far? I'm not going to fix this today, I want to know what you did first, as I've had to try and work this out. Plus I missed what happened, so I am out fo sync here with what went wrong and I have other things to do.

For now... You fixed one thing but broke another so... Its an easy fix I just don't have the time as I'm now signing off for the day. ^_^' One-Winged Hawk (talk) 15:38, February 11, 2019 (UTC)


 * Again, EVEC and XSY aren't part of the same function and cannot occupy the same space.


 * I could just move all EVEC to the EVEC page like I once thought and leave the Voicebank sections to only handle Vocaloid related things. It might be easier. I'm not trying to prevent you editing here or anything else, but EVEC literally only exists within Paipro and Vocaloid just cross references it. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 11:00, February 13, 2019 (UTC)


 * Likely was looking at the old version, wherein the EVEC stuff got merged into XSY. Sometimes I muddle myself up. Especially when I just woke up.  Lets forget it, since I don't think its going to get anywhere.  One-Winged Hawk (talk) 20:35, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Troll
Since you are the only admin that appears to be online, could you please ban this troll? CandyCaneMoe (talk) 06:26, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

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Bot switch
Hello,

We'll do a bot switch between Kocka's bot and mine. Like this there would be no need anymore to ping Kocka to launch the bot, if we switch I'll just have to launch the code myself on his server. However it will require the removal of the "bot" tag from KockaBot and the addition of the same tag to Tokikobot which will be the new account for the view counts update bot host. Can I please get the permission for it? Thanks ^^

Tokina8937 (talk) 21:24, February 15, 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, you have permission. -- Bunai Di (talk) 21:30, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

I am indeed Fukase Bokeol on Discord.

Bokeol (talk) 14:25, February 20, 2019 (UTC)BokeolBokeol (talk) 14:25, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

Answers wiki gone
Did you see my message on twitter about this?

The answers wiki is gone, which means we need to fix a few links here and there. @_@ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 10:39, April 29, 2019 (UTC)

Vocaloid x PPG
Hello, a while ago (kind a few years ago), there was a brand of 6 keyboards from Vocaloid Miku, Rin & Len and Luka along with PPG! And I did not find Vocaloid x The Power Puffgirls page and I wanted to create the page!

(And the evendo was official so ... it's not fake)