Talk:Megurine Luka/@comment-2601:409:8500:53A1:B43F:70B2:AC82:1DEA-20171028185426/@comment-53539-20171028200857

It tends to vary, in V2 it was the worst because of it lacked some sounds. Though the overall most disappointing vocal is credited to Sonika, who while has the capacity to say words even the best of V2 can't say, had an appalling quality voicebank.

CFM's vocals overall are often cited as some of the worst because of their habit of doing a bare bones voicebank, that is it can do English fully to a standard. However, what lets them down is things like the wrong tone compared to the Japanese or the minute vocal range (they produce a single octave). Since the voicebank doesn't match the Japanese version equally, when you switch mid-song it notices, which other bilinguals like Yohioloid, Macne Nana, Fukase and even Gumi don't suffer from as bad as. For Luka the biggest disappointed this generation was "Soft" was a copy + paste of the other English vocal with just added softness as the bugs are duplicates of its other vocals.

Miku V4 English does fix some tone issues, improves her range slightly... But... Still she just doesn't match any of the Japanese voicebanks. CFM has now released Miku Chinese and its copied the formula of production for English so its only equal is the English version. But if this is anything to go by... if more Chinese vocals are nowdue to CFM, we can expect much the same.

It is not easy to produce English vocals, and the fandom has a habit of treating clarity as the only sign of quality. Therefore a even slightly mumbly English vocal can be treated as "crap quality", without acknowledging these voicebanks tend to be more realistic then the solid sounding ones. So out of all of the languages, Englsih tends to get the most criticism... But without English versions CFM is limited to what they can do. Japanese vocaloids have basically reached their market limit and for CFM this is bad.

I would not say either way that Luka's is the worst, as Kagamine Len's basically doesn't sound like Len, let alone a young boy. I get the idea fans don't realise that Len has trouble even in Japanese at times, but the English version has worst problems with sounding male then the Act1 package did so its a situation that any future version now has to address. Its all nota very good position to be in.

V4 isn't CFM's best generation for Vocaloid, and some flaws with the way they develop vocals that hit them in V3 now have hit them in V4 hard... At this point the strongest two companies in Japanese vocaloids, discounting any of the "Yamaha vocaloids" as their group are a lot of 3rd party release... That would be Internet and Ah Software.