Talk:Zhiyu Moke/@comment-35171414-20180728084948/@comment-53539-20180729092222

Ring and Lui were from a fan fun group that ran into finical difficulties and though came to close to completing Ring either ran out of money to finish her, or did finish her and then didn't have the money to release her.

If we're going to reference failed projects the better vocaloid to reference would be Zhanyin Lorra, who was in a better position. In that the character exists but isn't a Vocaloid. Moke exists but yet isn't released but it continuing to be promoted himself.

Don't forget that he is releasing at a time also when the latest engine is out and is for the previous engine.