Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-66.96.68.102-20160516201045/@comment-5691615-20171221043715

Angel Emfrbl wrote:

Aochan216 wrote:

Angel Emfrbl wrote:

Aochan216 wrote:

Angel Emfrbl wrote:

Aochan216 wrote:

Angel Emfrbl wrote: Len is 14 years old... =_= angel, kaito has no official age and could also be 14 if that's what one interprets flips a tableTHAT DOESN'T MAKE IT BETTER YOU KNOW!

It actually makes it worst.

14 years old is 14 years old, their still a dam minor! you're saying that people can't ship a 14-year-old with another 14-year-old?? Only if it involves sex, then it comes serious. I'm saying that if it happened in the real world the pair would both be in trouble, possibly ne or both in for accusations of rape and whom ever influenced the other be thrown in jail. Its considered morally wrong and I agree that it is wrong to even ship the pair. I'm not saying its wrong not to put the pair into a storyline together as a pair though, but that story better have a pretty good reason to have a law breaking relationship going on.

Even in fanfiction its wrong and people who ship them knowing this is wrong sure have twisted minds. This is how I feel about the Rin x Len ship also. So yeah... You can say what you want, but I'm on the side of the law that says 14 year olds shouldn't have sex.

I don't care for shipping in general, but non-sex stuff... That's something that isn't breaking the law, so long as it doesn't get too passionate. Sending nude pictures is also breaking the law for instance. I know there are a lot of teens on the internet and hormones are something kids can't always control, but there has to be a line... And after being a Beyblade fan in the early 2000s, I got really fed up with Mary-Sue's and 10 year old boys being raped stories, there was no way you could always avoid them, someone snuck one in somewhere. I'm 33 years old now, relationships when your a teenager aren't the same as an adult as when your a teenager anyway, believe me. Its why few marriages last a long time... Emotionally... You are inert still as a teen compared to as a child or an adult as your body is going through changes even up to your early 20s.

Also, if your questioning me... Don't you find that really odd. As I said, their 14 years old in your scenario... Their breaking the law if they take it too far in the real world, if you wish to go that far with your query, I'm going to start asking how far your own morals lie down the drain pardon me saying so. angel, what does underage sex and sending nudes have to do with shipping 14-year-olds???????? shipping can be nonsexual and just because someone ships Len x Rin or Len x Kaito or Len x whoever doesn't mean they're encouraging 14-year-olds to have sex................... please come up for a better reason as to why you got so angry when i pointed out that Kaito doesn't have an official age I care for shipping in general, I just have a line drawn from my days as a Beyblade fan and as M.Queen says, you just shouldn't ship kids and adults anyway.

Even if their 14 years old, as I said when it crosses a certain line it becomes immoral. In the real world, forcing yourself on someone before their the age of consent is considered rape. Rape is morally completely wrong. Its why I and a few others report Len and Rin or other minor characters on places like DA whenever nude pictures come up.

The only place you can't change is places like the old fanfiction.net wherein they just allow this culture of ignorance to breed. Because they believe its just a fantasy. But the problem is for everyone who is sound of mind, there is someone who will be fuelled by it to commit a real act and its not ness. an adult, it can be some random fangirl or boy who wants to react one of their wild fantasies. Even Rin x Len in sex would lead to Len being charged for rape. In the case of Kaito and Len, it results in Kaito being charged for having sex with a minor, rape, etc, depending on how much of the book they want to throw at them and what evidence they can find against him and the law of the country. Plus honestly, its creepy for an adult to be after a kid in general.

I shouldn't have to give a lecture about under age sex, but everyone forgets that in the real world these characters would be victims in these fantasies. Plu, don't forget sex can result in a baby (if there is a male x female). Yeah sure, 14 year olds are ready to be parents and the girls body is 100% ready for kids (its not you keep developing until your in your early 20s still, but 16 and over is considered the earliest for a safe age related risk-free birth, which is why the age of consent exists). ¬_¬'

Honestly, so long as lines are drawn, as I said I don't care for shipping and so long as its within the lines I don't care for it.

And yes, we shouldn't be having this talk. dude, the only reason we're having "this talk" is because you turned a comment about kaito x len (in which kaito doesn't have an official assigned age OR age range) into paragraphs about rape, pedophilia and underage sex

if we were having this conversation, and kaito was officially an adult, then that would be logical. but kaito has no assigned age. if someone ships kaito with len, you can't say "lol thats pedophilia!!!" because kaito doesnt HAVE an official age. everybody has the right to their own headcanon, and just because most of the fandom THINKS kaito is an adult doesn't mean he is, and it doesn't mean that anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

i have no idea what made you bring up the discussion of rape, underage sex, or what made you think that i don't know or agree that rape is morally wrong and that underage sex is morally wrong. i literally have no clue as to why you brought this up or where it came from because as i said before, not all shipping is sexual. if somebody wants to non-sexually ship len and rin or len and kaito then it's not your business. but thank you for bringing up the conversation; everybody on vocaloid wiki needs to know that 14-year-olds shouldnt have sex