Talk:VY1/@comment-5012713-20121124232717/@comment-53539-20121201201228

Also with VY1 in particular, when she was released she sounded to some like she could almost be one of Miku's Appends, at least to many overseas fans. But yeah, all vocaloids can sound bored, it varies depending on what you do with them, but some are harder to tweak then others.

With VY's, I tend to think their quality makes people who are used to more quarky vocals witha bit of a dead end, since those with quarks often have more 'character' to the vocals. But in general if done by an overseas producer, it pretty much goes back to the "you don't know Japanese... Seriously... You know...". It reminds me of a comment I saw on VO where someone reported that they were picked on at twitter for saying they liked Japanese songs despite not knowing a word of Japanese, yet at as it was pointed out many of those having a go at them likely weren't fluent anyway.

I pulled up a video a few months back of a chinese (well he grew up in america but his family is chinese) guy who was talking about mistakes chinese people make with the english language... I agreed with one point he said that those in china he knows brag about know more words then he does. However, the difference he said between him and the guys in china was he could at least string the words he knew together to form sentances.

Knowing 'kawaii' is the equallevent of 'cute' in Japanese means nothing if you can't actually use this to communicate with a Japanese person, likewise the same goes for Japanese Vocaloids. Part of being able to even tune them relies on knowing if the 'chi' sound is flat compared to the 'to' sound or the vowel is too weak. With English speakers, they whine over their own vocaloids yet don't realise the same situation is with Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and Korean in many respects. Unless you can tell when a Vocaloid is falling flat, you can't do 100% of what you want with that vocal. Thus, this is one of several reasons (besuides no music talent, bad mixing or not even a DAW to work with) overseas covers are more prone to failing to sound up beat. I'm not saying Japanese P's can do better, but at least they can pick out oddities that overseas fans can't.  :-/

I think Galaco sounds more bored and flat then any of the VY's though... As I said, some vocaloids flatness is more apparent, I think its basically more to do with tone of voice more then anything. Or if the singer can create 'lift' in the recordings... And if Vocaloid itself actually likes that particular voice. ^_-