Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-30602727-20160202181457/@comment-53539-20160411083919

@Johatsun Kikuro a lot of the fans see the boxart before the voice. I've see it happen on VO time and time again, where the boxart pretty much decides on if the Vocaloid is liked. Merli is a example of it happening in action, there are some who took to her just because she has darker skin tone nd was "the first".

I think a lot of fans feel Fukase is one of the better Japanese -> English attempts. Yohioloid is a pre-Ruby Vocaloid, so its naturally he has flaws in the script... All pre-V4 English vocals have that. Its difficult to say though because the creators couldn't be certain Fukase's English was good upon release, there has been no major reports though.

A lot of the time it used to boil down with Yohioloid which language you wanted to be better, in V3 Yohioloid was the one to go after if you wanted better English, while other bilinguals were better if you wanted better Japanese. now everything is confusing to regards. Any post V4 English Engloid or Yamaha vocal is going to be better on average then pre-V4s.

Avanna and Oliver are considered improvements over Sonika and are roughly the same territory as her. If you have both, you kinda make Sonika redundant entirely. They over everything she does more or less between them. Fukase's also good if you have Oliver though, it seems he works well with vocals of similar overall weight to Oliver. Fukase's really been a big surprise from Japan, but I guess its because everyone got used to the mishaps of V3... If it was the sucky range (CFM English), it was the accent(Miku, Nana, though Nana's was because they didn't try to roll it back), if not glitches (Megpoid). so to have one with a decent range and not have a accent thats playing against the voice majority is a relief to some I guess, especially those who aren't a fan of non-Japanese vocaloids. :-/

I don't know what the English CFM V4s are like though compared in terms of improvements over V3 vocals... Nothings really been said on them. Except V4 Luka is better then V2 Luka... Which considering Luka V2 had missing sounds due to being a rushed release and any V3 vocal was better then V2... And English "soft" is one of the laziest extra vocals ever made... I honestly don't know what to say. :-/

I've heard a few conflicts between trials and full software n the past, don't know what its like now. But since you can't work the tiny editor without a voice, which will expire, then the editor becomes useless anyway.

I'm go out on a limb and say that the Kagamines English is a WIP and may get better in the future. To be fair the Kagamine V4x and Luka V4x is a really disappointing lot anyway. Luka basically only needed HARD EVEC and SOFT EVEC, having additionally HARD and SOFT was pointless almost. with there basically being a lazy English adaption for her too... Thing are well. In comparison, the Kagamines have 3 voicebanks a piece, but only 2 EVEC. They ave English, but Rin's basically the English has issues of its own. After the strong Meiko, Kaito and Miku releases of V3, with only their English sucky range being an issue, things are kind in a wierd place.