Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20171231161124/@comment-53539-20180302203405

NebulousViper wrote: @Ihavenoidea - It would get messy very quickly if we did it that way. Plus it defeats the purpose of the categories. The categories combines everything in one place while the "Notable" pages break them up into chunks. It would also be unfair for VOCALOIDs who don't have songs with 100,000 views because not all of them make it that far into viewcounts. I know one database site that listed all Hall of Fame and legend songs in one place or two differenet pages and it looks horribly cluttered honestly. I think this is why were splitting things up as they are now, so it doesn't get big and relatively ugly to look at.

Names aside, I'm still referring to the pages as notable for now because I'm not going around describing it otherwise to make my points. We set benchmarks for those pages to make it easier for unpopular or less noticible Vocaloids to have something on their pages. It is also a nice statistic to see which song has more views, which ones were well liked etc. They're more fact-based than opinion: you can't argue with viewcounts. That's why I hate the idea of picking and choosing which songs deserve a place or which are iconic because it's based on opinion, at least partially. pretty much the whole issue with "notable" songs is summed up as you stated. The songs also notable in 2009 wherein the wiki was foundation aren't all notable anymore and more have been added. The whole ideas of such concepts are all ideas from an era that doesn't exist anymore.

The wikia was also in its early days set up to cover UTAU until they got their own wiki, fanloids until they also got their own wikia and a few other ideas. IT was all... Messy in the beginning. Also originally, for example, all English vocaloids were on one page when I first saw them in late 2009, at some point in late 2009/early 2010 before I started editing (mid 2010) they were separated. So things on this wikia were quite bias before all of us came along. ITs a fight since. I think as well, things here were not too different originally to how the UTAU wikia was set up for a long time with table and text at the top of page instead of infoboxes and headers like now.

I remember in V3 the biggest thing we had to do was break up pages as the newer engine meant Vocalodis were getting too many versions of their software. Miku along in her merchandise section was a complete run away and had an entire typical pages worth on this alone. The software was the easiest and most essential separation we did, giving us pages to write about the character and the software separately did wonders for organisation and information gathering. If there is one thing I never regretted, was this occurring.