Talk:UTAU/@comment-27324770-20160522022616/@comment-53539-20160523074541

@those replying to me; Don't get me wrong, I hear ya, but the "core" UTAU engine isn't those adaptions, thats the point I'm making here. UTAU is at its "core" is limited. Just as Vocaloid at its "core" is limited, and it also has fancy plug-ins and tie in slowly coming out of the works. People try and give both engines more credit then they are, but every UTAU vocal still sounds similar.

Pardon me saying, but as I said, its still software; its not a human and is limited to its program. Its like saying "I wish I was as smart as a computer"; reality, computers are quite dumb since they can be beaten by illogical, because they can only do whatever logic is programmed into them. They can't think outside the box and are limited to the capabilities of the humans who programmed them to begin with.

Kotoritachi can make the vocal as good as they can, but UTAU, and even Vocaloid if it was possible, will have their limits. I've jut observed that over time, some UTAU vocal builders seem to forget this... That and just like Vocaloid not all vocal types aren't ness. compatible with the engine.

No idea how good Nana 2S build is, only that, but if we were to expand... Ruby Japanese has better results on voclaoid from what I've herd then UTAU (though according to Misha, Vocaloid transfer ended up with more nasally results)... Zunko's sisters re now strting to move to voiceroid... The more time progression, the more "core" UTAU will show its flaws, in my opinion.

Either way, this is why I spoke up, because I was trying to say, Kotoritachi should also give the engine itself some "breath" due to the "core" limitations. Sort of how the best digital DSLR still can't capture the full detail quality of a manual film camera in terms of details even a decade later which is why some photographers still what to get them. I wsn't trying to argue how good UTAU was or Vocaloid was or anything like that, I was just saying "remember its software".

The fancy plug-ins and adaptions are the task of others to talk about here, I'm not a UTAU user. Its like when people tried to impress me with Meiji or how ever her same is spelt, I can still hear the *same* limits in her as other UTAU. And to drift from her best songs brings up the ones where you can hear her filing as much as any UTAU. Its the same for any vocaloid. :-/