Board Thread:Japanese VOCALOID discussion/@comment-178.222.5.16-20170106213813/@comment-53539-20170106221624

The design is often felt a bit too basic in detail compared to her V3 (the artist did both designs, but the simpler style is notable). Her pigtails are also thinner then ever so this means she has a less "fluffy" appearance on the end. The previous V3 picture was a lot more detailed, the colours better fleshed out with more depth to them also.

I'd just be aware people can have an opinion, just relax.

Also, part of the problem is that before the Kagamine V4x product was out Miku was in the works. Their package was felt rushed out to give way for Miku, as they had a touchy reputation compared to her or Luka. So the Kagamine fans were gutted. as a result of the way their package was made, they have only one EVEC each, which as a result produces for either Rin or len a 1/6 of the result and 1/3 of the output together. So... They ended up being only a fraction of the value they should have been. While Miku did have 1 less vocal, she had more EVEC, which resulted in her package producing much more variety within it.

This wasn't so bad, until you release that Luka has only 3 vocals in truth which have been doubled to make 6. So Miku ended up being overall the best V4x. At times even I felt like in truth Luka and the Kagamines V4x products are just prototypes for Miku V4. Which makes me understand why there would be dislike for her product. :-/

I must confess, I feel overall because EVEC is a good and bad product, people are better with the V3 package. Complete with the Light and Vivid vocals, it has more XSY choices. Of course, you get more choices still with V4x as well as now both XSY...

There are some who hate on Miku because she was popular, but there is a big reason for it. Consider legibly, that Miu gets far more attention then any other Vocaloid within the franchise and by her own company, plus a 1/5 of all sales are for her products alone... There is some annoyance. Plus, Miku has been released for every engine version, which only VY1, Megpoid and Gackpoid have so far matched. Her release takes such priority that she got a V3 release, and the other CV series didn't.

Also, its all but confirmed CFM's lack of new releases is that they are too busy cashing in on Miku popularity... And her English version was called "Project Mikucash"... =_=

Do I hate her myself? nah, I find her boring. Imagine Miku staring at your face every day for 6 years, you'd get fed up too. Its kinda a case of seeing too much of a vocaloid that I was never a fan of to begin with. I wasn't introduced to Vocaloid via Miku, I knew Leon and Lola and Miriam being on the way... So for me, I've always had a time trying to figure out what made her "special" as a vocal when. Plus I was out of the anime fandoms sine 2006, save One Piece, so the anime style character doesn't really appeal to me.

She is also a hit or miss to introduce to non-Japanese non-Vocaloid fans, her voice is not appealing on a global scale. So for many, the pitched high vocalist is just not desirable and they'd rather have more mid-tone vocal. Miku herself was never based on a professional singer and that also has reflected on her vocal a lot. Her original V2 voice was kinda LQ, but that was a product of her release time and Vocaloid. Her Append was HQ for V2 in comparison.

So between the anger, the annoyance, the bias and jealously, Miku gets a lot of stick even outside of V4x.

Also... The v4x range has had a reputation for being viewed as not the best vocals of the V4. A lot of the time they end up being more robtoic then V3 vocals were and other V4s... And in terms of things, I'd put them as a MQ product, which tries to sell itself as HQ when there are better vocals.

I do feel this isn't the worst of V4x... That still goes to Arsloid. And I don't feel the Megpoid V4 release was good value for money overall as a whole... And when it comes to it... VY1v4 is basically 1 vocal which has been broken up to make 4... So there are far products I feel are kinda worst then the V4x range. But as I said, I wouldn't put it as the best. As I often point out with the Megpoid V4 range, while more costly you can buy 10 different vocals and get more tones and ranges, the same thing can be applied to the V4x range... EVEC and XSY combined still doesn't match up to wht you can get with several vocaloids. This is most notable at a time when XSY has been opened up and vocals from Internet co and AHS can product a lot more overall now.

Tl;dr, don't be offend, I understand why people feel the way they do about the product, Miku V4x isn't the best product within the Vocaloid franchise or V4 range, this much you must accept. But people will pick on Miku regardless. I wouldn't worry too much.