Forum:Song Translating and Mistranslating/Comment session

Here is a draft plan. Feel free to leave your comment. Damesukekun (talk) 13:28, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

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Last edited on October 31. Complete.
 * Index
 * Song Translating and Mistranslating

Comment
My comment will be below the posting, as to not confuse others.

I can either wait till you complete the top half and link it from the YouTube listing, or I can copy it fully to the page. But you still need a proposed idea on what to do with subtitled video links being added to the listing. -- Bunai82 (talk) 21:51, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll provide a list of unrecommended translators and contributors will be urged to be cautious of addind subtitled videos. I'm still doing writing and the article will grow larger. Copying the whole words wouldn't work well. I'll let you know when I complete the stuff anyway. Damesukekun (talk) 23:00, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is kinda another Black List situation where you can easily upset someone over a misunderstanding, so tread carefully. But understand the need for good translations and its up to the translator to do their best. I swear half the issues with the overseas fandom obession with what the correct interpretation of a song is is based on the mistranslations. One cn see two translation and literally get confused on what a song is about. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 09:22, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * What the "grave mistranslations" that shouldn't be tolerated is is clearly defined in the article. Yet I'll put a note that the list shouldn't be used to discourage or attack any translator. Damesukekun (talk) 06:19, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * This would prob. be better off as an article page at a later date, this is useful stuff. Especially since there is always a possiblity that someone will switch out subs that were reliable for their version or a friend's version which is not. I approve of the list anyway and honestly? This isn't information thats too easy to find. One-Winged Hawk (talk) 08:32, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * So far it is looking pretty good.
 * We may need another way of phrasing the top half for those who don't like reading long text ^_^; I can do that when you finish. If this proposal can show people to take some considerations when viewing translations, it would be nice. -- Bunai82 (talk) 00:16, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've done the writing. Can you summarize the top half and start a new article and move this draft into it? The top half is still informative so maybe we can divide it into a new page. Damesukekun (talk) 14:44, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Should there also be a note in the other sections to make people aware that even the best translators *may* mess up odd things? I tend to find even the best translators make a mistake, even if its only 1% of th time. :-/ One-Winged Hawk (talk) 14:58, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Will there be explained reasons for the Recommended section? -- Bunai82 (talk) 14:48, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I put a note. Do you think it works? Damesukekun (talk) 15:20, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that looks good. -- Bunai82 (talk) 15:40, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Made a few edits. Damesukekun (talk) 14:48, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comment pt2
Do you want this on the YouTube list page, a separate page on the main space, or a Vocaloid wiki page? -- Bunai82 (talk) 13:41, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The recommended/unrecommended list on the YouTube list page, and the text on a Vocaloid Wiki page, is this okay? Damesukekun (talk) 15:53, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can make that work. -- Bunai82 (talk) 16:04, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've just found this unused page about translations. I think you can move the text to the page. Damesukekun (talk) 16:26, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am wondering if I should redirect the this whole forum topic with its history to a main space page and then a project page, or just copy the whole thing manually? The Translation Page can be used as a directory and tutorial. I can archive the Comment and Comment pt2 to a talk page. -- Bunai82 (talk) 01:31, November 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it would be better redirecting this whole draft to a new project page. Damesukekun (talk) 16:18, November 9, 2012 (UTC)