Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-66.96.68.102-20160516201045/@comment-5691615-20171225011933

Angel Emfrbl wrote: Kaito is not the same age as Len though, this is made obvious.

A headcanon doesn't make anything more right, 14 Kaito x Len is still wrong, Kaito or Len will be done by the law and yes... I do point it out whenever it raises up even on DA and I even report certain images. I'm one of a few people who do that.

Also bare in mind headcanons are nonsense when it comes to actual vocaloids themselves. Do you know how many people can't accept Flower is female just because their headcanon says so? Headcanon is a lousy excuse at times and often a strawman argument, because they can't accept a person, or in this case a vocaloid, for who they are. Acceptance however, shouldn't involve a re-write of an entire character just to suit ones needs as this can't happen in the real world and actually leads to the problem of stereotyping and loss of the individual's value. It causes more problems then it solves. As others have said, Kaito officially treated like he is either in his late teens or a young adult to adult by CFM themselves. And even if you view him as 14, again 14 year old is still a bad idea. As I said, 14 years old one of them is still going to be put in jail for rape, 14 years old is still a age to be legally charged and it will be whom ever got the other to get involved.

Len x Kaito, Len x Rin, Rin x Kaito... Hell even a Kagamine x Miku or Luka is morally wrong.

Give the original topic credit, in many countries like the UK Miku x Kaito at least wouldn't be breaking the law.

Also I started it up because your insisting that its fine. IT wasn't me who started this, look back over the conversation. You first brought up the pairing and I counter argued why it was a bad idea. "Also bare in mind headcanons are nonsense when it comes to actual vocaloids themselves."

yet you and that other person are headcannoning kaito as an adult, though he has no official age. even if he is treated as an older teen or an adult, no matter who by, that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have an official age.

and your problem is that you automatically turned this conversation into a sexual one when it wasn't. i'm not talking about sex (nor did i ever mention it), you are. i'm not saying that people can draw kaito and len having sex and that that's valid, because it's not. but 14 year olds are perfectly capable of being in relationships that aren't sexual, though you automatically assumed i was/am supporting sexually shipping kaito and len when the only time any of these comments in this thread were when you started MAKING it about sex. please don't tell me that when you see 14-year-olds holding hands, hugging, or kissing you automatically think that their relationship is sexual. not all romantic relationships are sexual. nobody in this thread is saying it's ok to sexually ship len and kaito.

" Give the original topic credit, in many countries like the UK Miku x Kaito at least wouldn't be breaking the law."

"[...] Miku or Luka is morally wrong."

if you yourself believe that kaito is an adult, 18+, and you believe that adult kaito x 16-year-old miku wouldn't be breaking the law (in the UK) or morally wrong, how is miku x luka then wrong? miku x luka would be the same as miku x adult kaito. you can't pick and choose which one is right and which one is wrong. now, in reality, luka is officially 20 years old, so shipping her with miku is pretty pedophilic, but kaito AGAIN has no official age, so kaito x miku isn't inherently pedophilic or sexual.. and neither is kaito x len. because kaito has no age.