Talk:Status/@comment-37.142.146.92-20150118165648/@comment-53539-20150118183140

@Angel I'm well aware of the fact people tend to voice characters of the opposite gender, that's why I said I think it need to be looked upon i a different way.

I understand what you're trying to say about part of the fandom not being able to undersand the concept otherwise, but I think it sometimes creates a bigger problem, I have come across people in the fandom making obnoxious statements about people who refer to the VY's voices with accordance to the gender the voice leans towards, which is a proof it doesnt necessarily help them understand it. I don't mean to sound mean but I think it seems like even Robyn here doesn't fully understand it... I think the whole idea behind the VY series was to return Vocaloid to a more professional path, not having the avatars affect what people think of the voice and that each individual prodcer could make up their own image of the vocalist, not trying to sell them as voices that could be interpreted as both female or male.

I was just trying to point out the fact it kind of looks wrong, I think it looks unprofssional...

Technically the VY's are "it" in a the base sense which is why as a general rule whenever an editor wtrites about either they normally have to try and avoid use of "her", "his", "he", "she", etc.

I honestly don't think the fandom will ever fully grasp the idea of the VY's, look how many use Roro to represent VY2. Or how many refer to them by codename instead of their proper name of "VY1".

And yes, the VY series WAS intended to return Vocaloid to a professional path, but that note this is irrelevant to the situation about their gender.

The genders listed, as I exampled with Len and Ryuto, are based on the vocaloids gender. If we write "female" or "male" its incorrect because of the lack of a gender. Ergo, we can't write "male" or "female". The voice actor details whether or not the voice is a representation of "male" or "female" in terms of a vocal range so we don't have to list the voice based on its providers gender.

I don't think this really matters a serious discussion. The VY series has always been a sort of grey area regardless and I don't think if we're going to really discuss this... It should be discussed here and it really needs to go to forum anyway. That way Bunai and others with bureaucrat/admin powers can find it and note it or make any adaptions.