Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20151126190829/@comment-90.212.24.85-20151211235847

Listening to Rin/Len's English kinda gave off MIRIAM-esque vibe in the way they sound/were tuned. I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if the majority of their English is diaphone.

As Crypton's demos are usually tweaked to sound better than they actually are (eg what happened with Luka's demos); I'm probably going to wait for there release and see what people do to make original songs, etc. using their voicebanks.

As usual they suffer from Crypton's muffled-speech - Len seems to have caught sex appeal-itis as his voice is weirdly deep and husky, but it also sounds like they tried to make Rin more mature (similar to what they did with Miku English) and in contrast to Luka V4x and Miku English - they definitely are better; but I still enjoy Kaito/Meiko English to Crypton's CV-series English.

On a side note it wouldn't surprise me if Crypton went back to update Meiko - after Miku's V4x is released - then Kaito the following year (2017/2018), I also dont want Meiko/Kaito to have EVEC as it ends up being the case where I find EVEC to commercially be a waste of time and could have been used more productively (For instance; EVEC could've been used to counterpart CeVIO's 'voicebank sliders' (ie sad, happy, etc.), but instead are using it as some sort of XSY function (it made sense when Luka V4x was released as she was originally intended to be V3 (no XSY function) but got forced onto the V4 engine; which kind of made EVEC pointless and added an excuse for Luka V4x being LQ).

In a short summary -  I've abandoned hope on CV-04; but mostly Crypton's CV-series in general (please dont rush for releases anymore Crypton, take your time.), but I'll keep a close eye on Meiko/Kaito as they seem to be the only two YAMAHA seem to properly overview from Crypton anymore.