Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3076833-20141017184700/@comment-185.217.68.245-20171028120056

And what's wrong with hating Miku? Now people can't dislike a vocaloid? Do we have to like every single goddamn singing robot ever released?

Look, the reason why I don't like her (or rather, it's more accurate to say that I strongly dislike her fans) is very simple: Some years ago it was the 10th aniversary of Meiko, and then Kaito. Crypton almost didn't give a flying fuck. If it's not for Meiko and Kaito, there wouldn't had been any Miku or any CV series in the first place. Let's not get started on the ridiculous amount of updates and voicebanks Miku is constantly getting, when it took literally years for crypton to release a simple update for KaiMei who were trapped inside the archaic vocaloid1 interface. Oh and lets not get started on Luka's append wait hell. God that sure was terrible, it was supposed to came out for ''vocaloid2 and in the end it ultimately was released for vocaloid4. ''They kept postposing her forever because there was always some Miku update going on that was obviously more important than luka, and when they actually finally released her append it was a huge disappointment to many luka fans they had years and years waiting for her, a botched job they called it. And CV04, the poor nameless stillborn that existed since around 2010-2011 who's never going to see light that's almost for sure, at least at this rate.

But I don't want to talk now about the decadence of crypton as a vocaloid company but on all the paraphernallia they set up for Miku's goddamn 10th birthday. God there were still literal MONTHS left for it and people was already making tons of noise "hey in 5 MONTHS ITS GONNA BE 10 YEARS SINCE MIKU GOT RELEASED OMG!" They even set up a website with a countdown only for that or something, and a concert and all that shit, and stans wouldn't shut up, i wanted for the day to come as soon as possible as well but so stans would shut the fuck up already. Welp. Now it's over, and it looks like they are starting to remember that the Kagamine's birthday its going to be in 2 months as well! I think they are releasing two albums and thank you they didn't forget. I think, every single vocaloid fan I know from my social circle wouldn't even be into vocaloid by now if it wasn't by some Kagamine song. But eh, who cares about the twins, they are like Miku's little siblings or some shit.

There is also this Hachi new song he made for said Miku's birthday, sand planet where there is criticism of the decadence of vocaloid (welp rather miku's from the pov of miku stans) fandom. Henny, this has been ''going on since 2013 at least. I remember a ridiculous number of japanese producers leaving the fandom after that year (many of my favorites) but no one cared because they weren't huge miku producers, gasp ''some of them even mained other voicebanks, can you believe it! When you argued vocaloid's popularity was going downhill, you were meet with Miku stans screaming "WTF WHAT ARE YOU ON!? LOOK AT insert here stats of goddamn Miku's figurines sells or some pointless shit like that>', 'MIKU'S CLEARLY STILL POPULARZ!!!1". Now that an outstanding Miku producer says it it must be true, though.

Miku fans are too loud, are noisy, are annoying, are overdramatic, and are often the reason why many people ended up leaving the vocaloid fanbase and of its decadence on the first place. There, I said it. When someone says that they like Miku over any other vocaloid out of all other vocaloids tends to be because they don't care enough about the fandom to get in deeper and find other songs and other voices.

This is not only people's fault obviously. Imo, most of this is due Crypton's over commercialization of "Miku and her (barely mentioned) friends", which over the years I personally think it came out as a very artificial, forced representation of the vocaloid/cryptonloid fandom (i mean just compare an "official" vocaloid concert organized by sega with a fanmade one organized by people from niconico, with mmd models, and yet massively surprased sega's by long) I know most of you probably haven't been around/active enough deep into the fanbase to realize this but after vocaloid's popularity started to boom and Crypton started exploiting Miku's image many people started getting into Vocaloid because not because they found a vocaloid song on youtube they liked and from there started listening to more songs and getting deep into the fandom, no; many of the new fans heard of Hatsuni miku that internet animu girl with the crazy japanese made hologram concerts of, that had a car spot, and a domino's pizza campaign and videogames named after her and all that shit. Of course with that strong cult all over exclusively Miku's character who's gonna actually look on youtube for the good semi-obscure songs of not so well-known voicebanks from some years ago? Very few people actually. This also splashes japanese producers of course. Thanks god nowadays there are a lot of overseas active producers but some years ago only the japanese made the vocaloid songs.

In niconico it went like this: some random japanese indie musician wanted exposure, they heard about Miku's hype; they bought/pirated some of her voicebanks and made some songs with it, got the exposure they wanted, they left. Then repeat. This became a huge vicious circle, because it became then even more pointless to use any voicebank that wasn't Miku's (with the exception of Gumi's or IA's maybe), because people on nico wouldn't bother on listen to a nobody's original song where they used Kaito, Gakupo, miki, iroha, or whatever the voice you want. In fact I still find good songs for other vocaloids when I browse nico, it's just... That they don't get many views because very few peole cares.

This came out a loooot longer than intended, guess I really wanted to vent. So yeah, people hate Miku because she's popular, and this popularity came off as destructive. Hope I cleared some doubts for the newfriends around here ;)