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Talk: Kokoro
えっと、Talk: Kokoro に書いた私の意見はDamesukekunさんへの反論ではないです. 念のため. 書く場所がよくなくて、紛らわしかったかもしれないですね. すみません(^^; My opinion on Talk Page of Kokoro was not meant to refute your edit on the article. Blacksaingrain 09:13, January 6, 2010 (UTC) Blacksaingrain　さんの中立的な意見、助かりました. 同じ段落に投下したのは、Blacksaingrain さんと同じ文脈だと思ったからです. --Damesukekun 15:17, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * わざわざすみません. 私こそなんだかかき回してしまって・・・
 * この記事に関しては、私もそのうち大幅に修正入れようと思っていたので、Damesukekunさんのご意見もよくわかります. 削除した方が揉め事が少なくなるのは確かでしたし、今後、派生ボカロのように荒れてしまう可能性も高いですよね. でも、wikiの成長は悪いことではないし･･･悩ましいです. 「荒れるから自重しよう」というのは、もしかしたら海外の人にはあまりわかってもらえない概念なのかもしれないですね(人によるとは思いますけれど). 実際、この文章も英語に直そうとしたら、上手く訳せない気がします(--;　Blacksaingrain 07:37, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since I was thinking of editing the article, I understand what you meant. I know what happened in the fanmade-vocaloids' category and there's a reason to delete some articles in that category. The same problem can happen on this, and it's certain that deleting it would reduce arguments in the future.But growth of wiki is not a bad thing... it's a thorny issue. I suppose the way of thinking「荒れるから自重しよう」is hard to explain and make it understood in English, though it's up to each person. Blacksaingrain 06:22, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

ある意味、ニコ動で二次三次作品が黙認されている現状が、ボカロは何をしても自由だという印象を海外ユーザに与えているのは事実だと思います. これについては作者の側から積極的に英語で情報発信して誤解を解消することが必要ですし、この点について ymiyass さんと時折連絡を取っています. --Damesukekun 14:34, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, if Japanese authors express their own views in English, I’m sure that would dispel a lot of misunderstandings. Many people really love their wonderful works and want to know them.Blacksaingrain 06:19, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to encourage them and Crypton/PIAPRO to broadcast the Vocaloid information in English, too. It's a shame that they are reluctant to, my playing the flute with no one dancing... --Damesukekun 07:15, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * In case anyone is wondering, Crypton is somewhat trying, with their official presence in Facebook and Karen-T. O Herman 09:23, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

歌詞英訳について / Lyric Translation
ご連絡ありがとうございます. だめすけさんのご意見に賛成です. 解釈は人によって違うと思いますし、翻訳者の英語力/日本語力の問題もあるので、仰るとおり両論併記が可能なサイトへの誘導が一番いいですね. Thank you for your message. I agree with you. Establishing links to VocaloidLyrics @ Wiki is the best way. Translation can vary considerably from person to person, for it depends on each translator's explication and English/Japanese-language skillsBlacksaingrain 11:50, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * サンドリヨンのTalk Page の追記は単に自分の言葉足らずの補足もとい蛇足です.
 * それと、訳と関係ないことで申し訳ないのですけれど、サンドリヨンの日本語の濁点のある字やカタカナ等が一部文字化けで表示されているのですが、だめすけくんさんはいかがですか？もしかして自分だけ、なのかも（＾＾；Blacksaingrain 09:27, January 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * 仕様が変わってから日本語が正しく表示されないようですね. Damesukekun
 * 13:37, January 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * そうだったんですね. ありがとうございました. Blacksaingrain 03:03, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

help with name making
so im making a fanmade vocaloid and i need help with the name im trying to use

i'm doing koorine as the last name should that translate to ice sound, icy sound, ice song, ect. and is this the right spelling for it also 氷音

for first names im using aoi 葵 and midori 緑 i spelt them in hiruga (srry i cant spell well) Zinfandel120 07:04, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

氷音 is right. 葵緑 means "greenish hollyhock." Maybe you want to say greenish blue, then the name is 青緑. One point. Please understand that you cannot claim copyright on a remix work unless the original creator approves. Damesukekun 08:06, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not all for your creation because your music work seems to be the recyling with just a pitch change (i.e., not true Vocaloid tuning)...

you now those names are to seprate people? 氷音葵 Koorine Aoi and 氷音緑 Koorine Midori Let me tell you one more point. As other editors say, newcomers are messing up this Wiki. Please understand that just a "drawing" doesn't fit this Wiki. -- Damesukekun 01:18, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. They go.

How would you romanize this?
Japanese-style, that is. 文殊熙 - it's a name. Only dead fish go with the flow. 18:21, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * This name seems Chinese or Korean and I have no idea how to read it. Can you tell me where it is from? Maybe I could make a search. -- Damesukekun 06:03, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is Chinese/Korean but a lot of the non-Japanese friends I know are using the hanzi/hanja names and deriving three pronunciations from them (Chinese, Korean, Japanese) so I was hoping we could do the same with this one. Only dead fish go with the flow. 13:42, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * In Chinese, Wen Shu-Xi http://www.mandarintools.com/worddict.html and in Korean, Mun Su-Hui http://homepage2.nifty.com/ichimat/kanji/. I guess this name is from Korea for 文 is one of the famous surnames in that country. I'm sorry but I don't think of the just Japanese reading for this name. 殊 is rarely used as a name in Japan. And Kanjis in Japanese have several pronunciations respectively unlike in Chinese and Korean as you know, so you can read this name in lots of ways but each of them sounds strange for me. If I should japan-ize this name, Bun Shu-Ki or Bun Koto-Hiro would be the best but I'm not sure.-- Damesukekun 16:23, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was hoping to maybe use it as a handle at one site, but I think they'd fid it too awkward. Only dead fish go with the flow. 02:55, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Vocaloid Answers!
Hello! I am Pikapi and I have just founded a site called Vocaloid Answers. It is about Vocaloids and UTAUloids. I was thinking, could Vocaloid Wiki and my Vocaloid Answers Wikia work together somehow?-- PiKaPi   talk   blog  20:51, April 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, Pikapi. Thank you for letting me know. I think we can have free and easy questions and answers on the wiki. Can you ask Antonio and Oherman? They are the administrators of Vocaloid wiki and UTAU wiki respectively. -- Damesukekun 00:31, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

can you help me with my fan made vocaloid
i wonder if you could help me i've been working on my fan made vocaloid

i've read your rules and i have made a few video's can you tell me if there is anything i can improve

http://www.youtube.com/user/otakucai#p/a/u/0/7rE8IPvloJ0

http://www.youtube.com/user/otakucai#p/a/u/1/K-8hptoAv9U

http://www.youtube.com/user/otakucai#p/a/u/2/fcLVaCAJGNQ

please can you reveiw them for me thx ^^

More songs
I need more YUki songs but I can only find what I've found.

Its really difficult, I want to bring her above 20+ songs like the rest. :-/ One-Winged Hawk 12:29, June 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure. I'll make a search on Nico and add famous ones. Damesukekun 12:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I can only add what I find on youtube. I find dealing with the English vocaloids easier, most of them are just covers with few orginal songs, but the Japanese ones have many orginal songs, and cover of other vocaloid orginal songs. So the approach is going to be different. Unforantely it makes it arkward for me. :-) One-Winged Hawk 13:41, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: creator must not create the page clause
There should be a sole exception, that is, majority, if all the requirements are provided, and does not infringe all other rules. What do you think? O Herman 16:40, June 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The standard of "majority" is not clear. And anyone but the author will create the page for a famous character. I know what you mean, but anonymous users are creating and adding their simple ideas so I think we can apply the rule strictly for the time being to set the order. Damesukekun 18:00, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Black Rock Shooter
最近PCの調子が悪く、量の多い記事の編集ページを開いたりプレビューを見たりする作業だけでかなり時間がかかってしまっていまして、編集中にいただいたメッセージに気づけず申し訳ありませんでしたm(_　_)m ブラックロックシューターの新規記事の作成に関しましては、海外ファンの間でブラックロックシューターがかなり有名なので、独立した記事を作ったほうがミクの主記事が荒れなくていいかな、と思っただけですので、だめすけさんのご判断にお任せします. もしだめすけくんさんがミクの主記事での説明だけで十分で、新規記事は不要とお考えでしたら、そうしていただければと思います. もともとBRSはVocaloidとは何の関係もないキャラクターですので. Blacksaingrain 10:36, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

ちなみに私の PC も、持ち主より少しは処理能力が高いと思われるアフォの仔ですｗｗｗ I'll start a new page for BRS. That'll clear up unnecessary edit wars on BRS. Damesukekun 14:13, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 別ページを作って飛ばしたほうがよさそうですね. ミクの主ページの荒れを防ぐためにも.
 * I recycled the unused BRS article. Damesukekun 15:35, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

romanization
Macrons are hard to type; ought we to use the older (but still existing) romanization (i.e. uu instead of ū)? Only dead fish go with the flow. 05:27, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's what I've been thinking of. Macrons help users read words accurately but is bothering at the same time. Do you post the idea on the forum? Damesukekun 07:46, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wanted to get a second opinion first. Romanization is often a very touchy subject among fans of a Japanese work (see Spell My Name With An S) and I know a lot of wiki admins who, upon making a decision about it, are pretty unrelenting. I'm carrying it over now. Only dead fish go with the flow. 17:59, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

In my personal opinion, Revised Hepburn Method WITH macrons works the best. If you could spare time and energy to correct the words, I'll support you and join the correction. Damesukekun 04:57, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * The lying problem is that they don't have the standardized romanization here in Japan. The common method is Revised Hepburn without macron, but it's not compulsory. For example, we have four spellings for the long vowels. オー will be [o], [ō], [oo] or [oh].

Could you translate?
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/KEI

I wish to upload this both here and on wikipedia, but I think the problem is clear... I can write odd things to begin with, but especially on the wikipedia side Kei's page will need to be interlinked with other pages. On here, I simply wish to get his Vocaloid page expanded upon a little. I ask with the most humblest of gratitude when I request "Can you translate the Japanese wikipedia page for me please?".

Whether you say "yes" or "no", thank you in advance for at least reading this message. I thought finding information in the English communitity was going to be easier, but all I can find in the stuff that I already know about the Vocaloid side of things. One-Winged Hawk 12:02, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good idea. I'm busy with my job now and I don't know when I can translate the material but I'll share time for it. Damesukekun 23:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you! You are a hero! Don't worry, theres no rush at all anyway to get it done quickly, so long as I know I've got a translator at last thats cool with me. I put out requests elsewhere, wikipedia for instance, and no one has responded and its been several weeks since my first plea. And I knowno one at Vocaloid Otaku is going to give up a translation without first digging at wikis and how they work (again) before even hinting at translating it.


 * Take as long as you want! ;-) One-Winged Hawk 07:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Kaito/Meiko
Even on wikipedia, I haven't added them to the list of upcoming voicebanks. While it may happen, its like with Leon, Lola and Sweet Ann box art updates - it hasn't happen and may not. Last time someone mentioned Leon and Lola's boxart to someone from Z-G, they were unaware of it, thus only the ones involved will know. I am a bit curious though, what exactly are the full details of this update on Meiko and Kaito? Do you know? The translators themselves don't seem 100% sure on VO forums. One-Winged Hawk 17:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm the one who broke the ice in VO community - I should have said the source was unofficial and used the term "discuss" rather than "consider" - the update was not the official announcement and Crypton just seemed to watch the response of fans and market then. Damesukekun 23:06, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * That clears that much up then, thanks. I think I recall now someone noting that the source had been misintrepretated. Couldn't remember who, but that clears up the "update" completely. Thank you! One-Winged Hawk 00:20, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Question
http://vocaloidotaku.net/index.php?/forum/10-news/

Can you confirm if these are 100% Vocaloids?

Cause... I want to know if its safe to start the article.

Thanks in advance. :-3 One-Winged Hawk 10:30, November 25, 2010 (UTC) I visited the official site and other sources, but they only gave メーウ was "a virtual idol unit" and that was all. I'll let you know further information when the mist clears up. Damesukekun 13:00, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean メーウ? I'm not sure either, if they are new Vocaloids, just voice manipulations or other vocal synthesis software.

Re:
im not understanding why i cant post my "vocaloid" i know its not much. i have created her and i looked up many other vocaloids and they dont have very much history from what ive seen. some dont have songs or more than one picture. Mine did...

im sorry for posting this.. im just confused and i didnt mean to be immature. one of my friends told me i should post to get fans. im sry. she said it was a free wikia to post fan made vocaloids. forgive me