Talk:Kagamine Rin/Len/@comment-33653552-20180526133619/@comment-53539-20180526183051

Depends on the use of "p", as "P" in English when transferred into Japan sometimes ends up no different to "v" or "b". Before One Piece character "Vivi" was written in latin text there was all sorts of things used by translators such as "Pepe", "Veve", "Bibi", etc. Basically just about every variant of b/v/p and I/e or oo/ee or ie and ei got used. So back in 2002 when I first joined the One Piece fandom we had a lot of fund with names like hers. Luckily by the time we came along in 2002, it was already sorted. But other names like Mihawk's surname, forget it. We waited something like another 4 years for ODa to give us his surname.

"Phone", "Pharoh", "Pheasent", "phonetic"... Its not quite identical to the "f" sound but it is along the same vein and some accents make it no different. there is usually more of a "fffttt", in sort it has more spit as you say it. How I say it, "h" is like a voiceless sound almost in that we slide over it and you only put emphasis on the "p" to create a near "f" sound. But thats due to my accent. Think of it as learning how to do "r" in French when your English, we don't naturally roll our "r"s so the closet we can get is to say "air" so we often get taught a variation on "air" such as "aire". It took me ages to learn how to roll. But yes, most accents, particularly American, turn "ph" into a "f" sound.