Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-69.29.64.67-20140219022810/@comment-53539-20161126134412

@Diz... Yeah... I know why you are saying that and all, but it doesn't work like that. I'd have not had a falling out with a few people if personnel attacks didn't get anywhere. A lot of the "wikia" stuff was also set up as personnel attacks against myself. As they thought the wikia was basically me only (which I always hated as it was neglecting everyone else here who even at the time this reacting was making its rounds, was a very wrong asssuption).

Its not that I'm disagreeing with ya and all 100%, but you'd be surprised about 4 years ago what people were seemingly getting away with being so open on. Its a lot of the reason why VO got its reputation which Vocaloidism was often spared from being, that of a "elitist" forum.

The had a entire topic on newbie bashing that once existed, which while I do admit I did engage a few times, after a while I admit how uncomfortable it was. The issue is, as I once tried to point out, mocking noobs was fine, but unless you try and resolve the problem, the issue will continue. In fact... This was an on going thing right back even in June/July 2010 when I put my foot down on certain members who didn't want to left a finger to resolve issues within the fandom.

It not I'm saying VO is bad, but I' saying not everyone who gets a issue reports it, and the admins/mods can't see or do everything. Even now things go amiss from what I've seen. Heck, I think this was brought up on the One Piece wikia when a member was voted for banment, if you loose a ccertain member of a community the community can pay the price. And a few of the VO'ers were particularly praised in 2010. Things have gotten better as there are a lot more members at least in this area and some of the regulars are much better.

saying that... As many issues there are with VO, its improved a lot more in the lat 2 years then it did in the first 4. Making this topic have less and less point to it. Than goodness... :-/