Talk:Controversy Concerns/Vocal issues/@comment-37325373-20190806031535/@comment-53539-20190806080506

I don't think Luan would have been as well shunned as you think, the number of people who buy Vocaloid who are fans are actually pretty low and the main market is the professional one. This is how Avanna for example managed to sell really well despite having virtually no presence in the fandom.

Its the same with Ruby, despite the outrage, she sold just as well as other PowerFX vocals, but... PowerFX were struggling to sell Vocaloids even before Ruby. The fandom in the west only accounts for a certain % of sales and doesn't represent the vast majority of the fandom. This is especially note worthy as in addition to all things, bare in mind a lot of us aren't interested in non-Japanese Vocaloids and at times the typical weaboo fan will buy Miku over their available alternatives. Least... This has been true in the past, the closer you get to the 2007 year with Miku's release the more it becomes apparent because Japanese Vocaloids can get viewed as the only ones worth buying. Even when the person can't speak, read or write Japanese.

So I'm going to disagree with you here Viper somewhat. The trouble is knowing more producers buy Vocaloids then fans doesn't help the Spanish Vocaloids at all as they BARELY sold and it seems the professional weren't interested at all. If we say 10% of all fans buy Vocaloids, then if English Vocaloids sell 10,000 units and Spanish 1,000 it means 1,000 fans bought a English vocaloid - but only 100 fans bought a Spanish one.

So even down to what or what they didn't want, this wouldn't have mattered. Its very hard to sell Vocaloid to the west as we prefer traditional singers over fake ones.

The only part I'd agree with you Viper is just the bit about "sounding alike" because... Well... We've seen this as now a legit complaint, but then again... You also have to bare in mind they were going to be a V4 vocal pair, while Maika, Clara and Bruno are V3. The tendency is more to buy a V4 to go with the V4 engine anyway, so at least one of those two would have been bought by anyone looking to step into the new engine. The accent may not have even impacted things here.

Regardless, he threw a paddy and tossed his toys out of the pram, and with Spanish Vocaloid basically being dead, things have ground to a halt regardless.