Board Thread:English VOCALOID discussion/@comment-142.161.75.174-20170410005903/@comment-53539-20170410101101

It depends on what you want from them. Daina is more expressive then Dex, but slightly less quality. Beyond this, if you read DEX (VOCALOID4) and DAINA (VOCALOID4), you should have a rough idea of what to expect.

On a side note, just on the issue of V3's since you don't want to hear about other Engloids besides them... In regards to Avanna herself, she was among the best of V3 - but that doesn't cut it anymore anyway. Every new version of Vocaloid is *slightly better* then the last, so i wouldn't even consider her unless you are really after her.

Its pretty much this in regards to other English capable Vocaloid (rather then highly recommend a first, I'll give you a note of the current situation with English Vocaloid). The only native I wouldn't recommend from V4 is Ruby, but only because reports on her call her a rather strange vocal and it appears she isn't so beginner friend, so basically... Its youd be stuck with either Dex/Daina or Diva/Songman anyway at this point without going into non-natives... And I wish people would give these two pairs a little more consideration when they dive into a Japanese English vocal for the first time.

Which where it gets confusing as they can have very different issues between the Japanese-English ones...

To the point of it can become a really big deal which you get first. People seem really divided too on it, to the point I've seen some *bias* wherein people get their fan drives on instead of their thinking caps on. So some vocals like Luka V4x are recommended carelessly, and other vocals like Nana get ignored because people don't like her. Plus, the other issue with the non-natives is, at times, they come with a Japanese vocal. Which means unless you can work with it, you basically have a voicebank sitting there you *may* never use at all. Which defeat the point of going with a bilingual vocal in the first place in this instance. :-/

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