Talk:The Evillious Chronicles

Evilious "Cast List" and other possible translations
(I am only using the term "Cast List" as that's how I treat this. Please regard it how you will.)

Back in April, mothy posted on TwitPic a list of characters in Evilious (urgh, I think I need a spell check on that). I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else because a lot of the names were translated a long time ago from the Story of Evil novel, Aku no Oukoku website, and those that appeared in videos (The ladies in Venomania, for example). However, there are some characters on this list that have existed for a while, but may not entirely be known. It is also the first public mentions of "Blankenheim" and "Abelard"?

Unfortunately, this list does no good for those who can't read Japanese, as a vast majority of posts are in katakana. So, I would appreciate it if there was a translator in here attempting names that aren't known?

Also, may I also propose that the scans from the Akutoku no Judgement page on VocaloidOtaku also be brought over and translated into English? It has a name that I recognize that is on the list on Evillious characters (that of the "Pretentious Mother", Eve). If someone needs raw Japanese scans and does not have them, I will gladly provide them. Thank you!

LVT @ 75.213.77.120 03:41, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

3 Unheard songs-one needs its title translated
Just finished reading mothy's blog, and got ahold of the track listing for his new CD. Total of 11 tracks, including 3 songs that have seemingly been unheard. One of these is an intrumental, translated as Five Minutes Before the Trial. The other 2 are "master of the court" and 茶番カプリシオ. May I get a translation on that last one please?

I got a (likely inaccurate translation) for that last song from Google Translate. It reads: Chaban Kapurishio, in English translated to Kapurishio Farce. Kapurishio=Capriccio/Caprishio? 98.149.148.215 22:31, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Another series? Why isn't it mentioned?
Most everyone knows of the Story of Evil and the Seven Deadly Sins. Some know of the Clockwork Lullaby and, as of late, Original Sin and Pere Noel are known openly.

However, no one mentions the "End of the Four" series.

mothy first mentioned this on his blog waaaaaaaaay back in January where he summed up the songs released in 2010, whether on Nico or on a CD, solo or collab. The first song released in this series is "master of the graveyard" and it's probably likely that "master of the court" is also in this series.

What do the people running this page think? Worth a mention or am I just insane?

75.194.27.191 02:05, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

ReArranging this Article
Ok, I now this going to take a while, but I think is possible. I think this article needs to be arranged to give it a more technical and objective focus. The general sections are fine but I think that they can be improved. Among my ideas for improve are:
 * Add a Timeline template from Wikipedia or from Media Wiki for arrange all the Mothy's songs and events named in the Evils Kingdom's booklet in they temporal placement.
 * Remove the personal opinions and change the redaction.
 * Move the "Speculation and Theory" section to a forum section, similar to Narutopedia.
 * Improve the characters sections, add a sort of small profile showing a illustration, a small biography about the character and the songs in which the character. participated
 * Improve the Geography section.

I'm going to need some help for this, so I will need know who is interested on collaborate. Also, if you have any idea or suggestion for improve further more this article I will happy to hear it ^.^ Adept-eX 18:00, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Capriccio Farce Lyrics
Recently, I went browsing about looking for some more info on mothy's new song Chaban Kapurishio/Capriccio Farce/Clockwork Lullaby 6. What a surprise when I found a link to the Japanese lyrics!! If anyone can translate them, that would be nice. The address of the website I found them at is:http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/kenji_natuki/5917409.html 98.149.148.215 23:11, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Clean up please
Why is there comments debating some of the matters on the page?

This page needs a serious clean, however. I don't know this series well enough to do that.

At least can someone with the knowledge remove the fan debates, the theories and leave only the facts behind the series? One-Winged Hawk 13:11, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I left two topics upwards that it was my intention to tidy up this article, but that I will need help for that. Adept-eX 16:36, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I moved the part which doesn't need to be on the page onto here; don't move it back.


 * Really, seriously, that sort of thing actually on pages invites problems. One-Winged Hawk 20:06, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, some thoughts;
 * I thought we weren't doing English lyrics?
 * Should the lyrics for each song be on its own page
 * non-canon and canon stuff is nice but a little bit leaning towards speculation again, there MUST be a better way to do that without suggesting the same thing as the large chunk of text I removed from the page today. :-/
 * Really, documentation is nice, but too much. We only need references to back up text, however, if you want to keep them I suggest giving them their own page, at least you can link to it.
 * In fact, the information held is the problem overall. This feels almost like a "fanboys nerd corner" rather then an informative wikia page. There is just so much here I think needs to be have a rethink on the entire page. I'm not saying you can't have this much information, its just is a bit of a muddle in places and some of it feels like its either excessive or just going overboard.
 * Think of our readers here. Their here to get a rough quick idea on a subject. This is why this page feels so different to the rest of the pages on the wikia, because it doesn't feel like its trying to explain itself to reader, who possibly barely even knows much about the series to begin with and just wants to know what its about. Some things are nice to include because its brilliant to leave a reader going "I didn't know that!", but a wall of text is often off putting. There needs to be more breaking up of the page, to make it a lot more "user friendly".

Thats it. I can't touch this page beyond a few things, thats the problem. I've been ill the last few days so haven't done much on the wikia (threw up less an hour ago as it happens). I'm working on other things, bnut I can faithfully say the last point in particular is very much true. I harder know the series myself and this whole entire page pretty much made me feel less inclined to actually read it just because the way its currently set up.

And please, a touch of speculations as trivia or fan observations in "reception" and "trivia" can be tollerated, but don't put it back on the pages and leave it open to be freely added to like that again. One-Winged Hawk 20:21, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Probably the Documents in Aku no Oukoku CD booklet section and its information can be moved to the 悪ノ王国〜Evils Kingdom〜 article. Adept-eX 20:59, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

The Rules
This space is for vocaloidwiki users to share their Theories/Speculations with eachother about mothy's songs. Each Theory is to have a title in Heading 3 format. The theory itself is to be in normal format. If a theory is proven incorrect at a later date by canon information, the theory's title will have a strikethrough put on it. The only acceptable time for a theory to be removed is if it is an epileptic tree or a troll "theory". Please use standard English. Thank you.

Sample Theory: Perre Noel
Perre Noel, the orginization in Fifth Clown, is going to have its own mini-series, the three current components being Fifth Clown, Last Revolver, and Princess Sandman's Gift. Each will tell the story of a member of Perre Noel. Member two, according to Fifth Clown, wil "never get his debut". Mysterious member number four is Rin, and will be in the last of the songs. Luka, member number seven, may not get a song because she is the main character for mothy's canon anyway.

The Four Places from "Heartbeat Clocktower"
Since that particular song came out, people have been speculating about the words at the end of the montage of sins: "Graveyard", "Court", "Hellish Yard", and "Heavenly Yard". It was generally theorized that the Court was the Heavenly Yard and the Graveyard was the Hellish Yard, but now it seems safe to assume that each place is separate. Meiko is named "Master of the Graveyard" in "Heartbeat Clocktower", and Gallerian refers to himself as "Master of the Court" in "Judgment of Corruption". There is also the presence of the true "Master of the Hellish Yard". It seems that we can scrap all earlier theories about the connection between these places.

The "Master Roles" and Gakupo's Role
Continuing from the above idea, we know that Gallerian Marlon was the former guardian of the clocktower. We also know that the Master of the Hellish Yard is Gumi, the Master of the Graveyard is Meiko, and the Master of the Courtyard is Rin Miku (refer to the song master of the court). Miku already has the roll of the burned clockwork doll and Luka is Elluka Clockworker, the hero. The only remaining role we know of is Master of the Heavenly Yard, and the only remaining Vocaloid is Gakupo. Prehaps Gakupo is the Master of the Heavenly Yard?
 * Possibly the Master of the Heavenly Yard is mothy himself, since he uses it as his name and his blog is "the heavenly yard." The name also implies that whoever it is would be God, and mothy did create the universe that his characters live in. Gumi would then be the Devil.
 * Do you know? "Akuno" means Evil, but he is also "mothy". This makes me have a feeling that this means the "Master of the Heavenly Yard" is the Evil himself
 * I find it quite unlikely. Akuno-P, like any other P names, was a name given by the fans. As far as I know, he always refer to himself in the songs' credits as 'mothy', and never 'Akuno-P'.

The Fate of the Immortal Witch
It is obvious that Elluka did something that made her gain immortality, and her powers could do anything (even change her appearance) save for finding and cleansing the Seven Sins before disaster befell. The world already falls into ruin because of it. In Desert Bluebird, it mentions there about an old woman, and it could be possible that the old woman might be Elluka herself, although this can still be uncertain because she is immortal and therefore can't grow old, unless somehow, the ones who were trying to collect the sins managed to beat her, or the Seven Sins were too much for her to handle, so she lost her immortality.

The Thousand-Years of Speculation and a Bluebird
The idea of "1000 years" has appeared a lot lately. First, the song 1000-year Lullaby (referring to Clockwork Lullaby). Second, the song numbers have 3 digits, and 000 through 999 is 1000 years. Third, the 1000-year tree (the Eldoh's Tree). This obviously has some sort of significance in the story. I think that the number 1000 is going to be significant in upcoming songs, specifically in Gumi's song for Wrath and the 8th song in the Deadly Sin Series. It is possible that the sins all came together and the climax occurs in the 1000th year, or Elluka loses her immortality, or both. The Desert Bluebird is sure to come up in a later song as well. More than likely, it will have to do wit the sins assembling, because Gallerian says that his wish will come true once they've assembled, and the bluebird grants wishes. In the song "Desert Bluebird" in the end, they find an ocean in Lucifenia. This ocean might be the ocean where Regret Message had occured, and even maybe, the two main characters there are likely, again, reincarnations of Rilliane and Allen. Some keywords are: "By everyone's hands, the world is recreated. (connection to Heartbeat Clocktower)" and "Even during the hard times, we're always together. (connection to Story of Evil)".

Awakening of the Sinful Objects
According to "Girl of Miniature Garden" and "Heartbeat Clocktower", each sin is represented by an object, like the scissors for Invidia and the Glass for Gula. In "Heartbeat Clocktower", it is said that the 'bloody scissors' and the 'violet sword' has not awakened yet while Conchita and Rilliane appeared as persons. Since "Repulsive Food Eater Conchita" and "Daughter of Evil" came out before "Hearbeat Clocktower" while "Tailor Shop of Enizaka" and "Madness of Duke Venomania" came out after it, it can be assumed that the awakening of the objects are related to their creation date by mothy in real life.

A possibility is that the souls of the 'sinners' after death resided in the 'objects', which were then collected by the 'collector' AKA Gallerian Marlon (ironically he became one of them as well), which he stored in the Clocktower. After a while, the objects would 'awaken' and recite a song about their sinful lives. The time the objects awakened is the time mothy created the songs in real life.
 * This cannot be true as Sloth and Greed are awake in Capriccio Farce yet Envy and Lust are still 'asleep'.
 * We don't know who are exactly the Theather's inhabitants more than the Awaken Vessel of the Sins. If they are the reincarnation of their original owners is debatable. Anyway a person in a forum theorized that the Vessel of the Sin needs absorb the soul of their original owner (the Sinners) their death for wake up. If Sateriajis Venomania did a deal with the Devil, it means his soul was in hands of the demon so the Venom Sword couldn't absorb it; in the case of Kayo Sudou she didn't die because she was possessed by Elluka. Appearently the Marlon Spoon is awake because is using the soul of Adam Moonlit as is hinted by the Master of the Graveyard in Capriccio Farce (Remember the Soul of Gallerian Marlon ended in the Hell at the end of Jugdament of Corruption). Adept-eX 06:22, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Objects and the Resounding Song
Somewhat related to the above (this might count as two theories), the song "Lu Li La, the Resounding Song" references the pairs of objects from "Chrono Story", as well as the "Sinful Objects". The last line of the song says "They all return to the forest, with an uncontainable amount of anger." In Heartbeat Clocktower it says that the Collector built a small theatre in the forest, which, if the above theory that the objects are stored in the clocktower/theatre is correct, means that the setting for the "Wrath" song may be the theatre itself.

Also, it's possible that the objects shown in "Chrono Story" may have something to do with the fates of the sinners. For example, Gluttony was said to be a seed, and the picture shown was of a pomegranate. Pomegranates are important in the myth of Persephone, where the number of seeds that she ate determined how long she had to stay in the Land of the Dead. But Conchita's sin is Gluttony, which would imply that she ate it all, condemning her forever to the "Land of the Dead" and making her it's master, the Master of the Graveyard.
 * The Forest could be referring to Hell, considering the fact that Gumi (Wrath) is the Master Of The Hellish Yard, and the Sins apparently end up going to the forest. Sinful figures would naturally end up going to Hell.
 * Unlikely, as I doubt that Adam and Eve would be living in Hell at the beginning of time.
 * However, it could be thought that since Eve hadn't died (and thus left the Original Sin behind her), the forest wouldn't have been the Hell.
 * Discard the theorey; "Heartbeat Clocktower", "Capriccio Farce" and a few other PV-less songs confirm that by them "returning to the forest", they mean they all end up in Gallerian's Theater.

Welcome to a happy place... Utopia
Right off the bat, I'm going to say that Madame Merry-go-round is part of the Evillious Chronicles. Why? Because of the way Miku says "Utopia". Mothy could have easily used "risoukyou" or a similar substitute for this word. However, he chose to make it "yuutopia", just like in Judgement of Corruption and Heartbeat Clocktower. This has to have some significance, because of how easily he could have not used "yuutopia". It may have to do with MA and Marlon's Utopia that is completed once the songs are all recited. Note that Yu-u-to-pi-a and ri-so-u-kyo-u both have five syllables and it would be a perfect substitute.
 * If this is true then Red Shoe Parade must be Canon as both Red Shoe Parade and Madame Merry-go-round mention the Shadow Parade
 * In Madame Merry-go-round the singer "Embraces white hands" this makes me think that she is Michaela reborn as she was the only person to accept Clarise. As the gardener predicted that it was the Clockwork doll's future, maybe it has the soul of Michaela and therefore the tree of Eldoh's spirit. The clockwork doll seems so different to Margarita so I feel it must be somebody else.
 * Madame Merry-go-round also says "Even if I can't go back to how I was, I won't bear a grudge" Just like Michaela in Wooden girl ~Millenium of Wiegenlied~
 * Also "The transient Utopia was seen upon the horse" maybe Josephine is more to the story than just a reccuring character

The Objects Of Miniature Garden Girl

 * "Hatsumei", which is close to Miku's surname Hatsune, means invention in japanese. That is why Miku is represented as the clockwork doll, the invention of Kaito. "Kagami", which is close to the Kagamine twin's surname, means mirror. That is why they are represented as the two mirrors. KAITO and MEIKO with no surnames, are represented as the spoon and glass respectively. KAITO being represented by a spoon and MEIKO being represented by a glass may refer to their character items: KAITO's character item is ice cream ( sometimes those in a tub, hence the use of a spoon ), and MEIKO's is sake ( rice wine, and people normally drink wine in a glass ). The eggplant has a variety called the "chinese white sword" which might explain the Venom Sword.
 * There was some degree of logic in your theory, particularly in the part of Miku and Rin/Len. Now about Gakupo, I think that relation far-fetched. However also I found a somekind of relation betweem the objects and their respective sin. That information was already added to the trivia of the Seven Deadly Sins's article. Adept-eX 06:22, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Event at Year 1000

 * This could be something between Elluka and Ma. Both of them are trying to collect the objects associated with the seven deadly sins, and if Elluka got the medicine after infiltrating Pere Noel, then they both have three objects. At year 1000 the wrath event happens and they're both going after the object for it. Whatever happens this leads to the "utopia" being created.
 * However, Ma 'The Lonely Magi' could also be Elluka. Magi could be a play off of Maga, which is Latin for Sorceress. So, Ma the Lonely Sorceress. Guess who else is lonely? In the Chrono Story Document, it says: The Magi Ma. She who is now named "Elluka Clockworker". This could reference to Ma being Elluka. Even as it also refers to more than one person, Elluka is alone in the video. The song mentions her in losing everything and gaining eternal life, such as in the Document.
 * It might be possible that 'Ma' and Elluka are the same person after all. In the Evillious Chronicle document, it has been shown that Elluka could use 'Body Swap' technique. From what's been shown, she has only used that technique on characters also played by the same Vocaloid (Lukana Octo and Kayo Sudou both are also played by Megurine Luka), therefore maintaining Luka as her 'actress'. However, it might be possible that she used Body Swap on a Kaito-character around the time of Heartbeat Clocktower. I don't know much about 'Recollective Music Box', though...so this theory might be false.
 * And there's something else. "Utopia", in Latin, may mean "good place", but may also mean "a place that doesn't exist". Besides that, in the end of Judgement of Corruption, it is said that "utopia" will be created when all sin fragments are collected, and in this point of the storyline almost all of the sins are collected (because Judgement of Corruption is the last "sin song" of the chronology"), except for Wrath. Maybe the world or dimension where the songs take part will be destroyed when Wrath is collected. I have some theories about why it would happen, but I need to research more before I can say something.
 * If, in the year 1000, the world really gets destroyed when Wrath is collected and "utopia" is created, it would fit the fact that there aren't any other dates after 999 in the CD booklet.
 * The song "Carprishio Farce" shows that MA is Elluka, the Sorceress of Time. While the Kaito Character that was stated to be MA before was in fact named Gear. With Elluka and Gallerian believeing there will be Utopia once Wrath is found while Gear and Gammon believe there will, in fact, be nothing.

re_Visiting "re_Birthday"

 * I don't know if I'm the only one to think it, but it hit me tonight while watching a subbed version. re_Birthday Len could very well be "Hansel", not Allen. I know that it is generally accepted that re_Birthday is a response to Regret Message, but Mothy has said with particular relation to this song that he wanted people to come up with their own interpretation. And, if at the time he was trying to conceal the bigger story, he wouldn't have contradicted us when we connected it to the Story of Evil. All of the other songs in the Clockwork Lullaby Series are part of the greater whole, with the clocktower and the clockwork dolls. It seems odd that just re_Birthday would be connected to a single, individual sin.
 * re_Birthday makes a very convincing continuation to Regret Message, and there are a great deal of PVs that support this interpretation. But the original PV is a simple flip of the image from Clockwork Lullaby, showing Len instead of Rin. The only thing that really changes over the course of the song is the color of the characters shown on the upper edge of the video. Where begins my theory.
 * The twins, "Hansel and Gretel", were the ones who unleashed the Deadly Sins upon the world. The "voice" that speaks to Len from the clockwork spring calls him a "sinful" boy and tells him he will stay in the room forever. The lyrics at the top of the video are green. Most people interpret this as Miku, since Len killed her in Servant of Evil, and she would be the focus of his sins. But the color green used is not Miku's aqua-green, it's the deeper green of Gumi's gear from Heartbeat Clocktower. Len could perhaps be trapped in Hell, under the dominion of the Master of the Hellish Yard, because of his part in creating the Deadly Sins. The "red chains, the color of blood spilt" could represent the twins' real mother, killed while trying to reach her children, and the "blue shackles, the color of someone's tears", could be their adopted father, horrified by what his wife has done.
 * He mentions near the end of the song in reference to the lullaby and a tiny light, "Surely this is the message you sent me". It never directly implies Regret Message, and instead, the emphasis on the lullaby is closer to Clockwork Lullaby. And in the end of Chrono Story, the last part of the song is the twins, singing the familiar "RuRiRa", which never shows up in the context of the Story of Evil. And directly after mentioning the lullaby and the message, the background of re_Birthday turns yellow, to match Clockwork Lullaby.
 * .......sorry for the long post. ^_^;
 * So I'm not the only one who feels Re_birthday is a bit different from the others. There is just one thing I noticed. The theory above says that Re_birthday doesn't have a connection with Regret Message but actually it does(in a way). If you pause at about 3:32 at the original PV of Re_birthday where Len says "You're giving me a message" you can see the phrase "If we could be reborn..." in inverted order with a yellow background (implying it was from Rin). Since Regret message is not officially in the story of evil, we can assume that these two songs are related. Who knows? maybe the Rin from Regret Message is Gretel...
 * Regret Message is Story of Evil canon as of the release of Daughter of White, because Haku meets Rin on the shore after she becomes a nun.
 * I went back and watched the re_Birthday PV again, and I don't see the inverted message. But if it is there, Gretel and Hansel could be wishing to be reborn together as well, in a world where the deadly sins are no more. I think it's most significant that the "RuRiRa" lullaby never shows up in the Story of Evil, but it is mentioned in connection to Hansel and Gretel.
 * The inverted phrase is there. It's just really fast and lasts for about half a second. Also it's in japanese so I don't blame you if you didn't see it. ^_^
 * According to the new PV "Capriccio Farce", the one that sings 're_Birthday" it's Allen Abbadonia. You can confirm this just by looking his clothes. We can even see red and blue chains binding him to a yellow gear. Interesting, now Allen is called "Irregular", and a short profile says: "He dwells in the womb of the 'Doll-director'. Unidentified".

A Placement in the Chronology for Rin Kagamine's "Clockwork Lullaby"

 * So Rin's "Clockwork Lullaby" has no placement in Mothy's entire storyline, just that it is the first song in the "Clockwork Lullaby" series with the "Lu Li La" pattern. But what if the Rin in that song is another Clockwork Doll of Gallerian Marlon? Like Miku in "The Girl of the Miniture Garden", but not as important to him as Miku. She says in the song "You carry with you a sin of Greed", Gallerian had with him the sin of Greed. So she could have been an earlier doll of his.
 * Also she could have a connection to Re_Birthday since Len in that song hears a voice singing "Lu Li La". It could have been Rin from Clockwork Lullaby. So this Rin could have been reborn from either Rillianne from "Story of Evil" (presuming she died after living a life as a nun) or it could even be Gretel.
 * Either way I think this song is connected to both "Judgement of Corruption" and most definitely "Re_Birthday" whether that song is related to the "Story of Evil" or not. The only one who knows for sure is Mothy himself. So we will have to wait until he gives out more information.
 * It's true that Rin's "Clockwork Lullaby" is one of the most vague songs in the series. I find it weird that it doesn't have an alternate title like the other clocwork lullaby songs. This could mean that the song simply talks about the lullaby "Ru Ri Ra". My own interpretation of the song is that maybe the one that's singing is the clocktower only using Rin as a vocal for the song.
 * Perhaps the 'Clockwork Lullaby' is the song played by the various clockwork objects throughout the story? From the recollective orgel, then the clockwork doll, and finally the clocktower. When they say they sing 'Ru Ri Ra', they mean they are singing the song 'Clockwork Lullaby'.
 * Maybe the singer of 'Clockwork Lullaby' is the "reborn" Rilliane, as seen in 'Heartbeat Clocktower'? The lyrics describing her suggest that her 'other half' AKA Allen is still missing. So this song is intended to Allen so they could be together again?
 * Or possibly Member 4 of Perre Noel, she seems to mention a few of the sins indirectly ie. "Memories like a flower" Lust (Lust became a flower in Chrono Story), "Everything is in me" Gluttony ("Devour everything in the entire world" from Conchita), "What can be gained from a delusion?" Envy (Kayo was deluded ino thinking that Kaito was her husband), "If your tired then please sleep" Sloth (Now plase sleep being the "Saa" phrase), "What do you hope for and what will you obtain?" Greed (Gallerian hoped for a Utopia but will he obtain it?) and Rin sining says Pride to me but my theory seems a bit far fetched.
 * I think that it's possible that Rin, here, is singing as the voice of the theater that Gallerian Marlon (who, if I'm not mistaken, has been confirmed as the "Collector") created before he died. That would explain many phrases in the song,

Wrath/Ira is Just a Red Herring

 * This isn't much of a theory rather than just a wild guess, but I think all the references towards Wrath having a big part in the story might just be a huge red herring. Like what happened before Princess Sleep-Bringer came out. Many people believed that it would have something to do with the 'Clockwork Doll' due to Chrono Story PV associating Sloth with the clockwork doll, and that the song 'Girl of Miniature Garden' fits pretty well into the sin of Sloth. Then the actual song came out and have little connection to the clockwork doll...I'm guessing the same thing will happen with the Wrath song.
 * I see the point that maybe we're just expecting too much from Wrath/Ira.The only downside to what you're saying is, if we take a look at the CD booklet and look at the dates, there aren't anymore dates available aside from 999 (oddly enough if we turn it upside down it becomes 666 ^_^") unless mothy tries to squeeze it in somewhere.

The Role of "Pride/Superbia" connected to the larger whole
That being said, if I'm wrong and it's been proven that Rilliane and Conchita have no affiliation, you can scrap the last paragraph and a half. My final piece of evidence is that Rilliane's wish was to be reborn as Allen's twin once again. Hansel and Gretel were also twins. This can't be coincidence. Especially since they share the same vocaloids (minor point but still). I'm leaning towards a theory that Miku's original sin somehow fractured the twins' souls, and those separated parts happened to bond with the most powerful sin - Pride. Re_Birthday is Allen/Hansel's souls joining back together.
 * (this was originally connected to the "Re_birthday" discussion above)
 * It's a bit of a stretch, but has anyone considered that the souls/reincarnations/gears/clockworks or what have you of Rilliane/Allen are somehow bound to Hansel/Gretel? I'll admit that it's pushing it, and it's not entirely likely that the two would be affiliated with one specific sin.
 * On the other hand, though, if we accept that the Green text in the original PV of Re_Birthday is the master of the hellish yard (Gumi/Satan/Ira), then it becomes a little more likely. Consider that pride is generally known as the worst of the seven. The patron demon for Pride is Lucifer, otherwise known as Satan. If we make another leap of faith and assume that mothy is both aware of this and chooses to make something of it (neither of which are guarantees, granted), then we could very well have a connection between the Court, the Graveyard, and the Hellish Yard.
 * That is, Gallerian Marlon/Avaritia (master of the court) became lost in the hellish yard, which is ruled by Gumi/Satan/Ira. On the other hand, Rilliane/Superbia is the manifestation of pride, which can be considered equivalent to wrath, which we could take to mean that Rilliane and Satan have some yet-unknown relationship. The Graveyard factors in if we take yet ANOTHER guess and assume that Conchita (master of the graveyard)'s companions are Rilliane/Superbia and Allen.
 * Back to my original idea. It's generally assumed that Wrath has a fairly large role in the story due to all the references to the forest, etc. Not to mention all the stuff about the master of the hellish yard and 1000 years and everything. However, Pride (which is usually ranked higher, not lower than wrath) has only had a minor role in the story thus far (well, minor in the big picture. The fact that the Story of Evil has been fleshed out the most means very little regarding the overarching storyline). I can't help but doubt that someone like mothy who loves the little details like that would make the most important one (Pride is the only sin that's appeared at the top of every list of the 7 sins ever) have such a small impact overall. As such, I'm going to use this as another calling point towards Rilliane/Allen being related in some way to Hansel/Gretel.
 * I'd go so far as to say that Rilliane is Gretel's reincarnation and Allen Hansel's, except we know that Hansel dies after Allen.

The Four Masters and Miku as the Master of the Court

 * We know that the Master of the Graveyard is possibly the reincarnation of Conchita. This could imply that anyone who acted on the seven deadly sins can reincarnate to any of the masters. In the CD evils court, the song Master of the court is sang by Miku (most likely Margarita). If you think about it both of them died depending on their sin. Conchita died by eating herself (gluttony) while Margarita died by drinking her "gift" claiming that she'll "sleep forever" (sloth). It seems that whoever dies that doesn't regret what they did will be reborn as a "master"
 * That would be more plausible if Gallerian Marlon hadn't specifically proclaimed himself to be "master of the court". I could be wrong about this, but chances are that mothy wasn't just looking for something that fit when he used that line.
 * I find it more likely that Miku as the Clockwork Doll is singing "Master of the court", since we know for sure that she is connected to Gallerian Marlon.
 * According to "Heartbeat Clocktower", Gallerian built a small theatre in the forest, and what he loved more in that place was the Clockwork Doll that "acted as the director". Well, I think this have some connection with "master of the court"... And yes, I believe that the Master is the Clockwork Doll (Miku), because "master of the court" offical English title (according to KarenT files) is "Successor of the Court".Gallerian called the doll "daughter", then it would make sense that he left his "role" to his "heir" after his death. If my theory is right, then the Clocktower is the real "court".
 * I dont think the Master of the Hellish Yard was always Gumi. Maybe in her Wrath song, when she dies she attacks the original Master and she becomes the new master like how Conchita became the Master of the Graveyard. In the Evils Kingdom booklet there is ??? between 611 and 842, maybe the Wrath song happens between these dates

The Sloth Item

 * A lot of people tend to think that the Clockwork Doll may be the sloth item, but this to me, doesn't seem to be the case. First of all, it doesn't really make any sense at all how you can connect Margarita Blankenheim and her, other then Lu li la the Resounding Song. But current evidence doesn't seem to point to it! In Chrono Story, when the deadly sins are listed, the picture of Sloth the Wind is of herself, and this seems to be odd placement because if it IS the sloth item, it's the only deadly item shown ( besides from Wrath. We don't know what it is yet. ) And, in Judgement of Corruption, Gallerian states that he is collecting money FOR his 'daughter' , and he is trying to obtain the deadly sin items ; which would seem to represent the ' vessels ' of sin. Plus, the title of the ' chapter ' is ' Girl of a Miniature Garden AND The Vessel of Sin. ' It's not ' Girl of a miniature garden, the vessel of Sin ' which would point to the fact that they're the same, but it isn't, and it points to the fact that the Clockwork Doll is something different from the Vessel of Sin. In Lu li la the Resounding song it states that ' a doll on the wind picks up dirt with a spoon ' , but this seems to tie in with the close connection between the doll and Gallerian, and this song came on the Evils Kingdom CD, which was a while before we knew that Margarita Blankenheim even existed, so it might not even be her at all! To me, it makes more sense that the sloth item is the container of Margarita's 'gift' , because it was the one thing that carried people to their end , and contained the poison that caused people to ' sleep forever '. Plus, in the video we actually see this container presented to us ( in the background in the title, and a short flash after Miku says ' From me to you it's a present! ' and then the chorus starts ) . And when Gumilia is sent to investigate Toragay, she discovers that the ' vessel ' had been taken away. Margarita would've most definetely had the container of her poison with her when she suicided with it, and to me it makes more sense that the container of the ' gift ' is Margarita's ' vessel ' of sin.
 * The vessel is a generic therm that perfectly can be referring to the Doll. Anyway the song Miniature's Garden Girl hints that the Clockwork Doll is in fact a Sinful Item. There's a part where the Mirrors, The Spoon and the Glass mocks of the Doll saying her that she "is the same sort of thing than them". This discussion was in the talk page of the Seven Deadly Sins's article, probably you will want to continue this discussion there.
 * Has anyone possibly thought that 'Gift' and the Clockwork Doll can both be the item?
 * I think this has already been discussed in here. According to RuRiRa resounding sound, the sloth item is a DOLL not the "CLOCKWORK DOLL". If you think about it the sinful items don't have to be used in order to be a sin vessel. Take for example Pride and Greed. Their sinful items wasn't used for their sin to be enacted unlike Envy that needed "Kayo's scissors" to be done. The items for sins like Pride and Greed take on a more symbolic role. A doll symbolizes Sloth because it doesn't move if you don't move it.
 * If it's any hint, the lyrics of Nemurase Hime also mentions "Like a decorative doll, I was only used day by day"
 * Some items are never mentioned during their "original" sin songs. In fact, the only Sinful Item that is really important on it's "original" song are Kayo's Scissors. The glass, the mirrors, the sword and the spoon aren't mentioned on their sin songs. Nothing can link Margarita and Clockwork Doll, only this part of the lyrics that mentions a doll (wich for me is not enough to link them).

Elluka Clockworker and her 3 "forms"
Elluka Clockwoker is known to have the "Body Switch" technique in which she has the power to switch or merge herself with another person. In the PV for Chrono Story, when Elluka is first inroduced, she appears next to 2 other women; making a total of 3 women: a Blonde, a Pink Haired woman, and another women with Black hair whose face is not seen. The Blonde appears for the rest of the PV but the other two make no other apearance within it. This is because mothy was introducing us to the different "looks" Elluka will take throughout the Evillious Chronicles. The Blonde is none other than Elluka's "Original" form while the others are bodies that she takes over. In Madness of Duke Venomania, she takes over Lukana Octo's body and therefore becomes the Pink Haired Elluka. She retains this form for some time (including the Story of Evil and the Sloth song) until it becomes too thin and too weak that she must find a new body. That is when she approaches Kayo Sudo and uses the "Body switch" technique to merge with Kayo's body. In Kayo's character card, it is revealed that Kayo had "Beautiful Black Hair" that turned "Peach." The Black Haired woman in Chrono Story could be Kayo Sudo in her original form before Elluka merged with her. It could be that Elluka was the one who actually commited the sin of Envy or just acted upon the feelings of Kayo Sudo who was "crazy from the beggining." Furthermore, it is known that the Envy sin is the only sin in which the "actor" does not die or repent, and that is because Elluka remained in this body and left to continue searching for the remaining sin fragments.

Uh, sorry, but this theory's likely inaccurate. In the mini-PV for Millenium/1000-Year Wiegenlied/Spirit of ELD, it shows Elluka with blond hair.
 * After watching the mini-PV, the only clear references to Elluka seen are ones where she has Pink hair. There is an image of a lady with long Blonde hair that appears after an image of Allen, but it does clearly show that it is Elluka (However, it should be noted that in the same image, Kyle Marlon, who has blue hair, also apears with "blonde" looking hair.). Could you please inform as to when this potrayal of Elluka apears, I might have missed it. Also, if someone could translate this pagethat came in the Evils Kingdom CD, I'm sure it'll clear some things up.
 * I disagree. Actually this theory makes a lot of sense. When I first saw Chrono story I kept wondering who that black haired lady was. If we apply this theory to the dates it is really accurate. So at first we know that Elluka starts out as a blonde and we all know that Lust comes after that. When she switched with Lukana she became pink haired. She keeps this body until Sloth (proven that she makes a cameo after the dialogue with pink hair). And it just so happens that Envy comes after sloth where she switch bodies again.
 * I think that Kayo has pink hair in the Enbizaka no Shitateya PV is because Lukana's body was getting tired so Elluka needed a new host. She chose Kayo but then Kayo acted out Envy so she took her scissors to the theater in the forest and became a replacement for the unawoken scissors

Guumilia: The Sniper's Motive
Guumilia was chosen by Elluka Clockworker to become her apprentice, and when this happened, she aperantly also gained immortality (Guumilia was chosen by Elluka in 490 and is still alive during Sloth in 609). At the end of Sloth, Elluka and Guumilia decide to head to Lucifernia to find out more about Pere Noel. They end up joining Pere Noel; Elluka becoming Seven the Magician and Guumilia Eight the Sniper (who is the one that killed Hansel in Five the Clown). Pere Noel is an organization that is also trying to collect all the Sin fragments. During the events of The Story of Evil, Elluka Clockworker gives the Venom Sword (the Lust fragment) to Keel Freesis (who I'm guessing later founded the Freesis Foundation based on the last name). In PV for Sloth, it is revealed that The Freesis Foundation is investigating the crimes that Pere Noel is commiting. In the PV for The Last Revolver, Guumilia falls in love for someone who is on "the side of Justice." It is possible that the Sniper's Love is someone who works for the Freesis Foundation and is investigating a crime speculated to be commited by Pere Noel. It should be noted that also in the PV for The Last Revolver, the Sniper's Love is shown to have a sword of some sort with him (There is a point in the PV where the screen even zooms into the sword). The Sniper's Love was in charge of protecting the Venom Sword and when Julia (Ms. Santa) found out, she ordered Guumilia to kill him and take the sword. Becuase Guumilia comited suicide, it unknown who got hold of the Venom Sword.
 * Incedently, The artist of many of mothy's PVs (including The Last Revolver) Ichika, released a doujin called "Memento" in which a lot of mothy's stories were told in a short manga like fashion. The pages for the Last Revolver chapter in Japanese can be found here, here, here, here, and here. A translated version's available here.
 * Also, The Last Revolver PV shows and/or consolidates Guumilia as a permanent member of Pere Noel, pointing that she may have betreayed Elluka at some point (probably at the event stated at year 611: "The Battle of Marigold Plateau"), but her reasons were never mentioned (they may be shown at the upcoming and last song for Wrath, but this could be unlikely).
 * The thing is, are we sure yet that Gumilia is The Sniper? There are no evidence of this yet, other than the fact that Gumi is casted for both of them. Gumilia might have simply not join Pere Noel since the beginning while assisting Elluka (who joined Pere Noel) from outside the syndicate. The Sniper might have been another girl entirely.
 * In the new version of the Fifth Pierrot, for Evil's Court Album, the Sniper is sung by Gumi and the Magician by Luka, thus proving that #7 the Magician was Elluka and #8 the Sniper was Gumilia.
 * Like I said, Gumi is casted for both The Sniper and Guumilia. The Sniper being voiced by Gumi doesn't really prove anything...
 * I forgot to mention that at the end of the "Sloth" Song, Gumilia is holding a gun and she and Elluka went to Lucifenia, the place where Pere Noel is located. Thus, making it that Gumilia has a high chance of being the sniper. Also in Fifth Pierrot, Elluka asked Lemy to go with her(I think she said that because she wanted to get "Hansel" on the team.) but Lemy tells Julia, thus making the Sniper shoot him. That means that the Sniper and Elluka were close people, giving more hints that the Sniper is Gumilia.

Gumina Glassred's Role?
In the Evils Kingdom cover ([|this image]), all Vocaloids who sing in the Seven Deadly Sins are shown together, as their respective characters, except for Len, Miku, and Gumi. This leaves us with Gumi, who appears as Gumina Glassred. Unlike Len and Miku, whose roles are largely connected to the story, Gumina's role is pretty minimal. She DID get more exposition than Venomania's other victims, but it's still small. Furthermore, Venomania's own role in the story is also less than the other sinners (Conchita is master of the graveyard, Kayo gets possessed by Elluka, etc). Perhaps she will get a bigger role?
 * In Len's case, he appears as Allen Abbaddonia, He isn't really a 'sinner', but since he's Rilliane's, who is a sinner, 'other half', it kinda counts.
 * In Miku's case, she appears as the 'Clockwork Doll', since Margarita Blankenheim's existence hasn't been revealed yet. However, the 'Doll' is Gallerian's 'daughter' and has been shown to have a larger role in the overall story.
 * On mothy's website for Evils Kingdom, he gives a short bio on each character in the cover; which includes Gumina Glassred. It says that after the Venomania event she went on to become a major political leader who focused on woman rights. However, her background is very ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if later we learn more about just how she made a fool of Venomania.
 * On the Aku no Musume ~GREEN~, I found out, on the cast, Gumilia was a reincarnated person, and more interestingly, she chose the body of Gumina Glassred, who eventually became Prime Minister as said on the site. Quite shocking, I wonder when Gumina even died?
 * Considering there's a 363 year gap between Venomania and Story of Evil, it's not really unlikely that Gumina died by the time of Story of Evil...

The Devil
So far, we have two instances where the Devil is mentioned : Venomania mentioned he made a contract with the Devil, and Twiright Prank, where the twins encountered the Devil when they got lost. According to Twiright Prank, the Devil mentioned 'even if I eat the whole world, I still won't be satisfied'. This may connect the Devil with Gluttony, or Conchita. However, the Venomania event took place 200 years before Conchita, so it's unlikely. The most possible explanation is that the Devil is the master of the hellish yard. I doubt mothy will just leave the Devil as 'just a usual devil in stories'
 * I'm agree, probably the TwiRight Prank's demon is Conchita after she became the Master of the Graveyard, it fits well in the chronology due Evil Food Eater Conchita occurs before Story of Evil.


 * Now, about the Demon who did the deal with Venomania, also I had the feeling that was the Master of the Hellish Yard. Chrono Story shows the silhouette of four women from Venomia's harem (Meilis Belzenia, Gumina Glassred, Mikulia Greonio, Lukana Octo) near the end, hinting the possibility that they carried some of the Sins to their respective countries. Probably the Venomania's charm was imbued with other Sins, this as a Master of the Hellish Yard's plot to spread them through the world.
 * Also it's weird the reason why Gumina Glassred humiliated to Sateriajis (considering that she was his childhood friend). The flashback shows that Gumina's expression changes suddenly, almost as if were possessed by something. This situation were one the reasons (if not the main one) that caused the Sateriajis' decision to sell his soul at change of the power to charm to any woman. I won't be surprised that the Master of the Hellish Yard was behind this.

Rilliane's Life after the Events of Regret Message

 * Remember the "Daughter of Evil"? I wonder what happened to Rilliane after she threw the bottle in the ocean. In some PVs, she drowned herself ,or just grew old and died. And what happened to the rest of the characters in the series, such as Kyle Marlon, Jermielle and the extras. You be the judge.
 * Daughter of White tells us clearly that she repented and became a nun together with Clarice.
 * It's possible that Rillianne died early, or committed suicide because of her guilty over Allen's death ( I think that this second theory is more likely). "Heartbeat Clocktower" comments about a "girl that has the pretentious leading part". The song talks too that she's "indulging on selfishness like always", and that she's sad about the lost of her "other half". Well, this girl it's obviously Rillianne, so, she might be on the Forest's Theather (just like Conchita), which could mean that she died.

The Bluebird and the Deadly Sins
Well, I was searching for the English translation of Desert Bluebird and I noticed something. Desert Bluebird talks about a destroyed civilization, and an old woman. Maybe Elluka lost her immortality because of failing in the task of collecting the sins (got this theory from one of the topics above), and the "uncollected" sins lead the civilization of Desert Bluebird to destruction. So, the now-old Elluka asked the twins, probably another reincarnation of Hansel and Gretel, to seek the Bluebird. But in Judgement of Corruption Gallerian says that, once he collects all of the sins, his wish will be granted; the Bluebird also grants a wish for whom finds it. So, probably the Bluebird and the sin fragments do have a connection. I'd even say the Bluebird is something like a vessel of the sin fragments.


 * I think that Elluka didn't lose her immortality, rather that she took the body of some old woman. And about the rest, I agree :D (Happy New Year BTW) Avaflava1 01:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

The Lullaby and the Origin of Events
Okay, from what I see (and hear), Moonlit Bear was the start of everything related to the Seven Deadly Sins, while seperately, Recollective Orgel/Music Box of Reminescence was the start of all things Clockwork. Before the Seven Deadly Sins could be spread out in Chrono Story, 2 years before that, another sin was committed in Levianta, the fight for magic and power to the throne, between the Clockworker's sister and fiancee. I have a couple of unanswered questions:
 * 1) How can we be so sure that Elluka/MA was the fiancee and not the sister? It's not like she married the Clockworker soon to have his name? Because by that time, the other was dead(?) and she was collecting the sins 2 years later because 'she lost everything.' (Then again, it is Levianta, a far-eastern theme land, where traditions can say of a man being incorporated into a woman's family and bearing their name instead of his).
 * 2) What exactly is the lullaby? Was it first made with the music box that was supposed to be a love song like in the Recollective Orgel? Is it good or evil? We know it had set Allen free to be reborn (in my opinion, because Re_birthday contained a sampled tune from Servant of Evil) when he became repentant. We also know that the Clockwork Doll became the Master of the Court when she was just something that loved her father, into something that opens the door to the Hellish Yard.
 * 3) Only the incarnations of Len, Rin, and Miku know the lullaby, no other so far. Are there any other songs of other vocaloids singing it (that is canon)?
 * 4) Is the sloth item really THE Clockwork Doll, as in, the daughter of Gallerian Marlon? How could she be the one when the sin occured 300-400 years long before Gallerian was even born?
 * 5) What happens at Year 999 and 1000? Who is the Clockworker, or at the least, which vocaloid will portray him?
 * 1. It was never specified whether Elluka is the sister or the fiancee.
 * Moreover, is there anything supporting that Elluka is MA?


 * 2. It is the song "Zenmai Jikake no Komoriuta". The details about it are still hazy, though. My theory is that its first version was the love song in "Recollective Music Box". Throughout the time, it got passed down through other 'music players' ie. the doll and the clocktower. What we heard in Zenmai Jikake no Komoriuta is the final version, sung by the Clocktower.
 * 3. Luka is the only other one so far, as she's singing "Lu li la" in the middle of Recollective Music Box
 * Really? I think the Lu-li-la from recollective Orgel sounds a bit too childish, like Rin, or more likely, Miku. It really doesn't sound like Luka.
 * "What exactly is the lullaby?" Well, this an interesting question. I always wondered what was the meaning of this mysterious lullaby. After meditating for days, I think I have a good theory. In my (crazy) imagination, the lullaby is the song that Eve Moonlit, the infamous "Pretentious Mother", used to sing to "her" twins to make them sleep. I also asked myself why the Sinners apparently have a so strong connection with it, and I came to the the conclusion that, before spread the 7 sins to the world, Hansel and Gretel sang the lullaby to them. The motives to this, well, I'm still thinking.
 * 4. Many evidences are pointing that way. "Lu li la Lu li la to Hibiku Uta" mentioned a 'doll riding the wind'. "Chrono Story" symbolizes the wind with the doll. One of the lyrics of "Nemurase Hime" mentioned 'like a broken doll, I was only used day by day'. "Hakoniwa no Shoujo" mentioned other sinful items telling the doll that she is the same as them. About her relation with Gallerian, it could be that she only 'awakened' after Gallerian showed her much affection. Before, she is only a lifeless doll. It's only my theory, though.
 * 5. Those are still mysteries. The Clockworker would be played by Gakupo IMO, as he is the only other male Vocaloid in the series not present during the Original Sin time. Her sister/fiancee (which one isn't Elluka) would be Gumi.
 * Could be. I'm not sure about the Gakupo part, but it would make sense if Gumi was the other one. Maybe from that point on she lived (or died) and she became the Master of the Hellish Yard? After all, the Sniper on Perre Noel has a vague role, and Guumilia's reason and motive to join Elluka are suspicious, considering she became silent when Elluka spoke to her at the end of "Gift From The Princess Who Brought Sleep". I'm not saying they are the same person, but Gumi so far has been the least used Vocaloid to date by mothy.




 * 6. The song "Cappricio Farce" is a strong evidence that Elluka Clockworker IS Ma. Because Ma was stated as the Sorceress of time in the song. And not only that, Chrono Story presented Elluka Clockworker's 3 forms. And Kayo Sudou in Chrono Story had the SAME wardrobe as Ma in Capriccio Farce.

Daughter of Evil ~ Wiegenlied of Green~ Cast
A while back, I found this : http://www.akunomusume.com/green.html

It talks about the characters that appear in the second Daughter of Evil novel. Using the bits of info I got from using Google Translate, apparently Gumilia was also a spirit like Michaela before she was taken as an apprentice by Elluka. The form she takes is the form of Gumina Glassred. Michaela's form is apparently the form of the human of the Original Sin (Eve Moonlit?). We can assume that they are both given forms by Elluka, but the significance of their chosen form is unknown.

As a trivia, it says Clarice is a family of Yatsuki Netsuma. Hakua Netsuma was the name of one of Venomania's victim. Continuity much?


 * Nice catch; I was wondering about that part about Gumilia. Robins and chipmunks seem to be mentioned a lot when it comes to Michaela and Gumilia. I have no idea what that's all about, but it does seem like an interesting thing to note. I looked into Clarise's profile a bit more (used Babelfish for a second version of the translation, searched for Yatsuki and Netsuma), and it seems Yatsuki is the name of the village she lived in. I'm wondering if there may be a meaning to that name. Then again, I don't think there's a meaning to Toragay.


 * Since it's semi-related, I have two questions for those who read the novels: Are there any hints to the identity of Mrs. Freesis? I saw one character list mention that she had red hair (Miki?), but that could have been fanon. Also, did Michaela return Kyle's feelings? I've seen varying answers on it.
 * None that I know of, but I think, officially, Michaela did not return Kyle's (or Allen's for that matter) feelings. There's a relationship chart with the guidebook for the Story of Evil, and for the most part, it dictates a one-sided love on Kyle's (and Allen's) part.
 * The song, Wooden Girl ~Thousand Year Wiegenled~, proves that she really had love for Kyle.
 * There is one set of English subs that say "I loved him", but is missing a huge chunk of the song (when told this, the person who posted it said there were no missing parts; he/she got the subs from someone else, though). A second set of subs just goes with an ambiguous "he who loved me", although the person posting them goes on to say it was explicitly unreturned in the novel.
 * From what had been shown in the novel and the song Wooden Girl ~Thousand Year Wiegenled~ not only did Michaela not return Kyle's feelings but that she in fact was in love with Clarice, as Clarice was in love with her as well.

The Three Clockworkers
Foreword: This is based on searching though Google and running the text through both Babelfish and Google Translate in the hopes that it's accurate or at least coherent. Just about anyone else would be better at understanding the original text than I am. Also, this is super-long, but it still contains theories, so I'm putting it here for now. It can be moved if it's too long.

In the preview video for EVILS COURT, there is faded text that describes the songs, presenting most of them as court cases, with the defendants being the main character of the song (Gallerian, Margarita, the unknown person from MMGR, etc.). For Recollective Orgel, the defendant is named Kiriru Clockworker, but Elluka is the one providing testimony. Notably, Recollective Orgel focuses more on a character besides the one whom the Vocaloid is portraying (Elluka is a major player, but her thoughts and feelings aren't in detail like the man's are). I can't understand what the description of the song is saying, though, so I can't say much more than that.

(Other weird stuff in these bits of info: Michaela is stated to have replaced Eldoh, however that works, and may be able to meddle with the matters of the theatre. And apparently Madame Merry-Go-Round is Gammon's prediction for the future of the Doll, though she doubts him. The Battle of Marigold is mentioned briefly in the info about The Fifth: Pierrot and confirms that Julia was present for it.)

Kiriru Clockworker, then, is likely the name of the man whom the song is about. But why wouldn't he get the singing role for his own story? Gakupo is available for that time period, and heck, so is Kaito (Pere Noel's time had both Caspar and Blue). One explanation I've seen from a couple of people (Here, here, and here, the last two being from the same person) is that Kiriru is supposed to be based on Kiyoteru. I'm not sure if mothy even has Kiyoteru.

However, I'm having a hard time believing that's who he's supposed to be. His only other known role is being Keel Freesis in Story of Evil (which has numerous characters that only have one or two roles, like Leon and Teto), and he might have another role for the Battle of Marigold, though this is only speculation on my part. Unless he's about to make a last-second appearance complete with a full song with his voice, it doesn't make sense to pick him over the two recurring adult males in the series, especially when one of them is underused and hasn't made an appearance in the same time period. I haven't seen any good evidence for this, like offical art depicting Kiriru with glasses, so I'm just going to say that Kiriru is unidentified.

Those two aren't the only characters in Recollective Orgel, however; the song is about a man, his sister, and his fiancee. In the tentative name list posted in April (up at the beginning of this talk page), three Clockworkers are mentioned: Kiriru, Elluka, and Iriina. Some alternate names of characters are listed separately, like MA and Elluka or Hansel and Lemy (assuming we're not getting those facts wrong), but it does seem to be backed by more info.

At the very end of the PV of The Fifth: Pierrot, there is a message directed to a dear sister, directing her toward Marigold Plateau. Most people take this as a message from Lemy/Hansel. Some people also say that it reveals Elluka's alias, Iriina Clockworker, and that Hansel specifically says to go meet her. However, maybe the message isn't from Hansel to Gretel at all, but rather Julia to Elluka.

For starters, something that bugged me about the "Elluka is Iriina" thing is the fact that she kept her surname, which would be cause for suspicion even before Lemy ratted her out to Julia. She's known as a hero in the time of Story of Evil, a little over a hundred years prior to Pere Noel's time, so it's not likely that the surname Clockworker would have become obscure by then. She might have had a totally different alias, or even none at all depending on what Julia thought of her before she tried to take Lemy away. Second, the name Iriina Clockworker is not part of the message itself, but off in the lower-right corner, right under the name Julia. The full message is this:

"～親愛なるお姉様へ～

メリゴド高原にて待つ

ジュリア=アベラールこと イリーナ=クロックワーカーより"

It's pretty much the same as the Hansel-to-Gretel interpretation, except that it signs off with the names Julia and Iriina. The first line even addresses the recipient as a sister. Kiriru's fiancee definitely seemed to have become part of the family even before marriage, given them sharing the same surname. By extension, she'd likely consider herself the in-law of his sister already. This would leave Iriina being that third person, likely based off Meiko if her identity in 610 means anything. Again, there are two Kaito characters during Pere Noel's time, so two Meiko characters during the Original Sin time isn't impossible.

Iriina seems to have made an appearance during one of the short stories in Interlude of Evil (the one that takes place around TwiRight Prank), as an old woman named Abyss I.R. (アビスI．R．). I don't know what her role was in Story of Evil, but Elluka does seem to have a separate role from her at the same time. Finally, some of the sites I looked at peg Elluka as the fiancee and Iriina as the sister. I'm not sure how to verify either of these bits of info, though, short of owning the supplemental material myself.

Summing it up, these are my guesses:

Kiriru Clockworker (キリル＝クロックワーカー) was the man who made a music box and was devastated by the feud between the two important women of his life.

Iriina Clockworker (イリーナ＝クロックワーカー) was his sister, based on Meiko. She apparently was killed or badly injured, but gained some immortality in the form of multiple bodies and identities, like Abyss I.R. and Julia Abelard.

Elluka Clockworker (エルルカ＝クロックワーカー) was his fiancee, who apparently already took his surname and called Iriina her sister. She came out of the fight in much better condition physically, but ended up taking on Eldoh's quest, putting her at odds with Iriina down the road once more.

A-chana 18:50, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

27 December
I predict that a video will be posted by mothy on the 27th of December. Since he became active in 2008 he has not failed to post a video on the 27th each year; usually one with Rin and/or Len meaning that we may be getting a PV for The Resounding Song, To the Reticent You or Mine and the Frog's Love Romance.

But Mothy did not post a video on Dec. 27th, 2011. I think I read that he couldn't get one up in time for the date and that he would post one up in January (I really hope it's that Wrath Song)

Caprishio Farce English Lyrics
I found the english lyrics to this song through a video on youtube. The lyrics are not the official translation of the song, however.

The empty defendant's seat, the barrister's seat is filled with junk Let's begin, this farce called trial. Searching because of orders from God, there's only one vessel left If you know the location of this item, please contact, "the sorceress of the time" Descending time, changing form, changing owners, and I finally debut on the stage But I don't know the location, it's probably in "her" hands Search, Search, search for "her", left, right, or deep down below For the one which holds every key, "Master of the Hellish yard" When will this farce continue? There is nothing beyond there The soul of Adam who fell into the trap, there is also nothing you can do or have done The swaying scales, the messed up scenario, the vessels which has been contaminated by the sins Playing each song on their own, Caprishio which did not harmonize The story has let go of the hand of God and the Devil and walks on it's own If he's still here on this hand, he'd probably sigh The true fear, is the desire of mankind Let's organize the information a little, the man who was attracted by the devil's blood I give you permission so please speak, of the events when you came into this forest I carry this fearsome curse upon my body, and to undo the curse it became necessary The sword passed down from my ancestors, I came to this forest alone in order to seek it Kill him, eat him, if it's not possible then catch him. The person who entered this forest Convict him, convict him, convict him anyway, start court, convict, death! When I made the preparations to be caught, the spoilt girl extended her hand I wanted someone for chores And so I became the "Gardener" "sorceress of time", "the cursed gardener", the replacements for those vessels that have not yet woken Hiding their true intentions within their chests, the un-assuring invaders "doll owner", "master of the graveyard", "gears", "the person who waits", "master of the hellish yard" When the end of all arrives, who will be laughing then? Rurila rurila rurila rila, the irregular beating which echoes Friendship, trauma, justice, illusion, hope, destruction, dream, lust, love, death All melts and turns eternally, in the clockwork lullaby Before he died, the lonely man constructed a theatre Will the Utopia he dreamed of be completed? Let us all look on, this farce called life

Wendy?
I'm working on Akuno-P's discography (Something to put in the trivia, if there is any... All Akuno-P's major albums, not mini ones, have 11 tracks, coincidence?)

I know there's little information about it, but does anyone at least know the singer for Wendy? I can't find that information anywhere... Unknown.System 08:10, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well.. I found the song on the website Miku Database (Here) and I decided to upload it on youtube (Here). I don't have the lyrics, nor do I have the translation, but at least we know Rin sings it. Quite a happy song. xD Sambiss 05:18, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Margarita's husband's name
I've seen some minor debate on whether his name is Marquis or Caspar, so I looked into the name Marquis to see if it was a reference to anyone. As it turned out, Marquis is actually a title given to a European nobleman who inherited his rank, ranking under a duke and above a count. While it has variations from language to language, it can still be spelled Marquis in German, which seems to be the naming style for people in Toragay.

Written lines in the PV state that Margarita married "Marquis Blankenheim" (ブランケンハイム侯爵), who later died during her mass murder. The credits that occur during Elluka and Guumilia's conversation list Kaito's character as Caspar, with Marquis Blankenheim in parenthesis. The cast list posted in April calls him "Caspar Blankenheim". I think that Marquis is his title and Caspar Blankenheim is his given name. It would make sense for him to be a nobleman, as Margarita mentioned that politics were involved in their marriage. Either way, Caspar and Marquis are the same character according to the cast list in the song itself. I'm just going to change it to the way Venomania's full name and title is listed on the article page (title, first name, surname), since I'm not sure what the correct form of addess would be (not that their world seems to play by those rules -- Rillianne has the suffix D'Autriche even though there doesn't seem to be an Austria there).

(Vaguely off-topic, but has anyone ever made a translated version of that cast list? There are quite a few names I don't recognize, including ones with familiar surnames like Marlon, Clockworker, and Freesis. I'm not sure how much of this has changed over time, though.)A-chana 13:56, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * In the order given the cast list is
 * ASAN
 * Adamu Muunritsuto (Adam Moolit)
 * ABISU I.R.
 * ARUSU I(?)
 * Aren Abadonia (Allen Abadonia)
 * Anne Dootourishiyo (Queen Anne D'Autriche)
 * Iba Muunritsuto (Eve Moonlit)
 * Iriina Kurotsukuwaakaa (Iriina Clockworker)
 * EIN
 * Erudo (Eldoh)
 * Eruruka Kurotsukuwaakaa (Elluka Clockworker)
 * Kaachesu Kurimu (Kachess Crim)
 * Kairu Maaron (Kyle Marlon)
 * Gasuto Benomu (Gast Venom)
 * Kasuparu Burankenhaimu (Marquais Casper Blankenheim)
 * Kayo Sudou (Kayo Sudou)
 * Garerian Maaron (Gallerian Marlon)
 * Kiiru Furiijisu (Keel Freesis)
 * GYASUTON MUUSHE (Gaston Mouchet)
 * KIRIRU Kurotsukuwaakaa (? Clockworker)
 * Guumiria (Gumillia)
 * Gumina Gurasureshido (Gumina Glassred)
 * Kurarisu (Clarise)
 * KOOPA
 * Sateriajisu Benomania (Sateriajis Venomania)
 * JENESHAA (Jennifer?)
 * Jerumeinu Abadonia (Jermeille Abadonia)
 * Sharutetsuto RANGUREE (Chartteto ?)
 * Juria Abaraaru (Julia Abalard)
 * Josefiinu (Josephine)
 * JORUJU Oosudin ((George?) Ausdin)
 * SEIRA Benomu ((Sarah?) Venom)
 * SETSUKA
 * SOONI ERUFUIN
 * DENIERU Oosudin ((Daniel/le?) Ausdin)
 * CHERUSHII
 * Tonii Oosudin (General Tony Ausdin)
 * Nei Futapie (Ney Futapie)
 * Banika Konchiita (Vanika Conchita)
 * PARUKEIJI MERUDO
 * BIHIMO
 * Ferikusu ?? (Doctor Felix)
 * Purimu Maaron (Prim Marlon)
 * PUREJI
 * MAAKU
 * Mariamu Futapie (Mariam Futapie)
 * Marugariita Burankenhaimu (Margarita Blankenheim)
 * Mikaera (Michaela)
 * MIKINA Furiijisu ((Mikina?) Freesis)
 * Mikuria Gurionio (Mikulia Greonio)
 * MITSUSHERU Maaron ((Michelle?) Marlon)
 * MINAAJU
 * MINISU
 * Meirisu Beruzenia (Meilis Belzenia)
 * MEETA ZARUMUHOOFAA
 * Yukina Furiijisu (Yukina Freesis)
 * Yufina Maaron (Yufina Marlon)
 * YOOKU
 * YOOZEFU KURIMU
 * Ririannu (Ririi) MUSHEE (Lilliane (Lillie/Lily?) Mouchet?)
 * Ririannu Dooturishu (Rilliane D'Autriche)
 * Rukaana Okuto (Lukana Octo)
 * REBIA
 * Reonharuto Abadonia (Leonhart Abadonia)
 * Remii Abaraaru (Lemy Abalard)
 * Gretel (Gretel)
 * Hansel (Hansel)
 * Ma (Ma)
 * Iregyuraa (Irregular)
 * Niwashi (Gardener)
 * Words in capitals were not recognised by me some have been guessed. It seems that Rilliane had a Husband, Son or Daughter and Chartteto has a Surname. Maybe the Ausdins are the wrath family and Danielle is played by Gumi
 * Sweet, thank you so much for posting that. I think that Arusu is Als/Arth/Alth, the father of Rillianne and Allen (I'd personally go with an L to fit the naming theme. Alth to Allen and Anne to Rillianne). Yoozefu Crim (Yosef Crim...?) is a possible descendant of Kachees Crim, and I've seen info stating that Sarah Venom is Gast's sister. Sooni Erufuin was translated here as Sohni Elphen, queen of Elphegort, and I think Charttetto's surname might be Langley. As for Rillianne/Rillie... Pure speculation on my part, but which Vocaloid could pass as an adult Rin? A-chana 16:32, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I hope that I'm not bothering anyone by writing this(otherwise please delete my post), I think that:  KIRIRU Kurotsukuwaakaa = Kilil/Keelel Clockworker (if he is played by Kiyoteru, like some people believe, the name could be similar to "Keel"),  YOOZEFU KURIMU = Joseph Crim,   GYASUTON MUUSHE = Gaston Muushe,  MAAKU = Mark,  CHERUSHII = Chelshii/Chelsea(?),   PARUKEIJI MERUDO = Palkeiji Meld/o...  :D I'd be nice if Mothy releases more info about the cast!

The Role of Desert Bluebird in Mothy's storyline
This is the sign of the desert bluebird. With the two wings and the the tail wing as seen in the "Desert Bluebird" song. This was when the tower was contaminated by nuclear radiation.

This is mothy's website. And look at the logo! Does it look familiar?

Last but not the least, look at the black thing at the bottom part of the picture.Look at the circle. What's in the middle of it? You guessed it right! It's the symbol of the desert bluebird! And look at the top right part of the picture. It doesn't have the symbol! What do these all mean?

Nice observation! If we add this with the hint given by of Miniature Garden's Girl (the Clokwork Doll along the 'Vessels of the Sins' INSIDE a Cage) supports that Bluebird's Desert is part of the Evillious Chronicles. Also there are some allusions of an inminent end (possibly a disaster, remember the civilization is devastated in Bluebird's Desert) in some of the last songs of Evillious Chronicles' It seems that some of the previous suppositions about the link between the Seven Deadly and Bluebird's Desert were right. All is aiming that Evillious Chronicles' end will lead to birth of the Bluebird, the creation of Marlon's Utopia and a Big Disaster which will erase almost the entire civilization.
 * In Capriccio Farce 'Gear' states there isn't anything beyond all the farce carried by the Theater's habitants.
 * In Master of the Court the 'Clockwork Doll' heard from the 'Gardener' that all this (retrive the sins) will lead to the end while MA states the opposite, retrieve the Sins will lead to an Utopia. Oddly the Doll want to send the whole humanity to the Hell, where is supossed the Utopia will be created if the words of Gallerian Marlon at the end of Jugdament of Corruption where right.

Now, what I do? Should I merge the previous related theories with this one? Adept-eX 07:04, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ma, the lonely Magi
In the Evillious Chronicles document in the Aku no Oukoku booklet, you can see that it was stated that Ma was the lonely Magi. And Magi in the bible means the Three Wise Men. So it might mean that Ma was the three wise men? We also know that there are three clockworkers: Iriina, Elluka, and Kiriru Clockworker. Was the relation of using "three" Clockworkers an accident? Or does Mothy really want it to relate with the wise men of the Bible? So it might suggest that Ma was actually the three clockworkers and when the story began, Ma was splitted into three clockworkers. And as we all know that the Three Wise Men were tasked to find the star to find Jesus. Does this mean that the star represents the seven sins and Jesus is what they're calling Utopia? So does it mean, the three clockworkers are looking for the sins, which they know that will lead to Utopia? Another thing is we know that in Capriccio Farce, Kayo Sudou was given the name, "Ma." Which might suggest that the three clockworkers united once again in one body which is Kayo Sudou. This is just a theory so I'm not sure if it's true.

Trivia: "Aku" means evil in Japanese, right? And if Ma became evil, he/she will be called "Aku Ma", which means Evil Ma. It's weird because "Aku Ma" is a homophone of "Akuma", which means "devil" in Japanese. Does this suggest that if Ma became evil, he/she will be the devil?

Another thing, In Capriccio Farce, at the back of Ma are three books: a green one, a pink one, and a blue one. This might represent Elluka Clockworker's three forms. The first book was written when she had blonde hair. The book was green because the story took place in the country of Elphegort, the Green Kingdom. The second book was written when she had Lukana Octo's body. The second book is pink because it's the color of her hair. The last book was the color of blue, which matches the color of apparel she's wearing when she was in Kayo's body(as seen in Chrono Story and Capriccio Farce).

The warlich 04:20, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or it could be she could become one of the Four Masters, more likely the Heavenly Yard, but then again, we could never tell.
 * Think of it... In Capriccio Farce, the gardener was called "the man who was attracted by the devil's blood." Maybe it really means.. "the man who was attracted by evil MA's blood." It makes sense since MA was in Lukana Octo at the time she was raped by Venomania which leaded to the gardener who had the same blood as MA.
 * Interesting, the portuguese word used for "evil" is "mal". When used to describe a female noun, it becomes "má". Ma and Má... probably this doesn't make any sense, but it's... curious.

Flowers of the Plateau
Hi guys! Mothy just released a new song. It's called プラトーの花 (Flowers of the Plateau). It doesn't have a PV nor a translation but mothy has a preview of the song here:

http://www.vocaloappend.jp/

It's one of the appends. And this time, he used the Miku APPEND. I'm so excited and I have a strong sense that it's related to the Marigold Plateau. Please translate! If you want the youtube version it's here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7ElYGfBbGk

The warlich 16:11, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Elluka Clockworker, The Sorceress of Time
Many questions about Elluka have been going over like, "Why is her hair black in Capriccio Farce?" or "How could Elluka give Michaela, Eve Moonlit's body if it's already burnt?" This fact can explain that: "Elluka is the Sorceress of Time." The reason how Elluka used Eve Moonlit's body was MAYBE because she went back to the time of moonlit bear to use it for Michaela. And her hair was black in Capriccio Farce was MAYBE because she went to the theater before her hair turned pink and went back to Enbizaka to continue Invidia. Chrono Story and Capriccio Farce proves her power to travel through time. In Chrono Story, she was said to "transcend time." In Capriccio Farce, she was said to "descend time." Which means she can go both to the future(transcend) and the past(descend).

The warlich 14:21, December 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe because, after she had done body swap with Kayo her hair turned pink because of Lukana Octo's traits. Elluka wasn't suppose to do Invidia in the first place, she had only acted on Kayo's feelings after the body swap, which means, Kayo can overpower Elluka, when she arrive at the theatre, she they might united as one soul, Kayo overpowering Elluka might be the reason Kayo's hair turned black again.
 * My point is... That Elluka Clockworker is messing with the storyline. She's unpredictable that she can be anywhere and anytime she wants. Who knows the exact chronology of her body swaps? And who knows her body swaps? Who knows, maybe Elluka Clockworker already body swapped with Miku and we didn't notice it. The warlich 01:30, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lily in Superbia
Hey everyone! Could someone please translate the name and description of Lily found in the third novel's website. Thanks and if you want please edit the characters and add it or please post it here and I'll edit it. Thank you! The warlich 01:51, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I did a rough translation of Lily. Please edit if it's wrong. The warlich 01:51, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Chronology
I'm confused about the chronology. According to it, Cappricio Farce occurs about 500 years after Re_birthday. However, in the Cappricio Farce PV we see the red and blue chains still attached to Irregular when they get taken off in Re_birthday, so shouldn't Re_birthday come after Cappricio Farce?

The page says Re_birthday's date was never given by mothy, suggesting that the date this page gives is wrong.

On the other hand, Irregular was freed by the message in Regret Message, so Re_birthday should come soon after Regret Message... Great, now I'm even more confused than when I started posting.

But...What if Irregular didn't get the message from Regret Message until 500 years later. Infact the song is kind of vague and it could have been in a span of 500 hundred years (after all, The Madness of Duke Venomania didn't happen until 121 years after the start of Chrono story, and it was supposely to happen right after Chrono Story)
 * Re_Birthday begins around the time after the story of evil; That is why it is placed where it is in the Chronology. The end of the song, however, does not have a specific place in the Chronology yet.