Talk:Flower/@comment-50.68.187.142-20190720172229/@comment-53539-20190720182015

I tend to think Flower gets a little bit of an overhype at times, as I said everything she can do IA Rocks can do and more, so its only a matter of tone and voice. But it does mean that Flower's in a position of "inferiority".

And VY1 can do a lot of the things Flower can do too when it comes to rock, and is a better vocaloid.

I mean, She is better then Miku's original voicebank...But then you look at Miku and note that she has more then 1 vocal so has more roles she can do. That means for music, Miku's out doing her there too.

The list goes on of Vocaloids... I feel sheepish saying all this, but Flower seems to be about upper-mid range in popularity and honestly... That means for a single vocal whose being outclassed by a good chuck of other Vocaloids, a lot of people like her. But when she was recieveing a V4 update, they made the mistake of just focusing on updating the old V3 voicebank and not adding another. And it was so soon after V3's voicebank was released that basically it was perhaps too soon. Just over a year between them? for an update that simply tweaked the quality and fixed bugs... Well... Noting the big thing of V4 was XSY, Flower could have been better. They could have spent another 6 months or a year, waiting for a second vocal to be produced and just released an overall better vocal.

The difference between V3 and V4 vocals... It wasn't enough. Even with bug fixes, the difference between V3 and V5s is not much but recording techniques now and improved recording equipment. There just hasn't been that big update between versions like there was going from V2->V3 for Japanese vocals.

So yeah, my thoughts is that while some updates like Gumi's took the mick by supplying too much unneeded fluff, Flower, Rana and a few other vocals didn't have enough.