Talk:Kagamine Rin \ Len/@comment-88.174.73.204-20141216003514/@comment-53539-20141216200552

Try being a Engloid fan in 2009/2010... When anti-English Vocaloid was at its height... To be honest I can deal with Kagamine relationships better then I can with ignorance and bias. At least I feel you can make progress in the argument on Kagamine relationships and can back it up with legit source, have people BELIEVE YOU and walk away happier.

And if your a producer or fan of SeeU... you've got politics to deal with on top of what the Engloids face. Basically, as bad as the Kagamien fans and Miku fan and allt hat are... I don't consider them the "worst" aprt of the fandom, at best it only gets annoying. >_<

I don't tend to think of there being a "hipster" fan. From my experience of "hipster", being a hipster normally pre-tells that you liked something before it became popular. Take for instance "My Little Pony", if you were a fan of the 80s series you can be considered a hipster if you say "I knew MLP when it it was hand drawn..." and be considered a "hipster".

With Vocaloid, I sometimes wonder if I'm one because I knew Vocaloid originally from a brief experience and a purchase before Miku became popular, because to me knowing Vocaloid before Miku would make you a "hipster". I honestly don't consider those following non-CFM vocaloids hipsters, their just rebelling. :-/