Talk:Hatsune Miku/@comment-79.120.174.230-20150125225254/@comment-53539-20150126113449

Half a dozen fans deciding the item but never referencing it is not how one decides the item war.

Miku's item is still referenced because its a meme and CFM likes to promote the meme's. Even then, its referenced becuse it was "decided", the war its going on anymore because a item "won" and the studio acknowledged it. there have only been a few other cases of this, Tonio, Lily, Gackpo and Gumi. Of the 60+ vocaloids, that is about a dozen at the most (just woke up, can't do maths).

You don't see anyone suggesting anything new or see any suggested new item sticking around for more then a few months and now many discount the Engloid items such as Leon and flowers, because they were decided by 12 or so people in 2009 at old Vocaloid Otaku forums... Which is not how it works.

In fact... the last meme that stuck within theJapanese fandom (of which the item wars originates from) wasn't a item at all but Mikudayō and this was back in 2012.

This is why the war is considered "dead" for the most part, no new meme's have experience the same scale as the item wars did in V2. How many new Vocaloids have items that aren't attached to their bios or included in their boxart? And as 88.174.73.204 said rightly, who has heard of the items you've suggested? Aside form the traditional and the popular derivatives, no new memes are gaining fame right now.

The fandom is basically "maturing" at this point and the fans who were 13+ years old in Japan, and helped created this trend are older and less likely to do this. Groups who weren't successful and helped fuel this are gone and have been replaced with new groups who may not all be focused on the same company, those that are more into other companies may not be bothering at all. A ton of things have basically changed since the V2 era... We have 3 new languages with their own versions of their vocaloid traditions and the english fandom is just starting to make its own mark and create its own distinct culture separate from the Japanese one now its not consonantly running down its own vocals as much as it used to in the V2 era.

Also its not a leek, its a spring onion.