Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-25386934-20150406010344/@comment-53539-20150406122438

@Honey, may I adress something here thats a little off topic?

We've had this problem come up before a long time ago. When you take vocaloids like Kokone, you see kinda the big problem. Even other members of the Big 8 had this problem at a time, and its only aftr time we've pulled more info on them.

Basically, there is a lot less to talk about them then Miku and this is kinda the big problem. Miku is very easy to market, talk about and tends to dominate all vocaloid stuff. Literally at a tie she had 40,000+ original songs, Luka had about 8,000 and Kaito/Meiko I think it was about 1,500+. Ditto Gumi and Gackpo... Every month Miku ets 1,00+ songs and her closet rivals get between 100-300...  So whenever one has to discuss other vocaloids, we try our best but its not always possible. You either end up talking less about Miku (leaving a HUGE hole since she is 80% of vocaloid sadly) or not enough to really talk about. You can write a epic on Miku alone, but your cramming in all vocaloids to make the rest match up to her.

The wikia is meant to promote all vocaloids equally, however, for one reason or another this sometimes is quite a stretch.

Since everyone gets used to seeing her you'll find nobody rushes to update Miku pages anymore to add merch item no. 10,045,789 on her marketing section (excuse the joke).

And if I had a choice between promoting major and minor vocaloids, the minor ones would get the most focus. But the fans don't work their way; the best we can hope for is focusing on popular and hoping the unpopular get noticed. this has worked so far for a number of vocaloids. So we end up using the popular vocaloids to draw in the crowd.

Hell, I'm a big fan of Engloids and when I started out in the fandom they were underdogs... Still are in a bad place, but the underdogs now are Clara and Bruno.

Basically, its a "catch 22" situation.

On topic; Bare in mind we also have the "featured article". Its set to cover most of the vocaloids anyway. The logo is decoration and nothing more so its not that important to be honest.

Changing the logos also takes time... You're looking at a week to change, which may not seem a long time but a week of editing is still a week of editing. So changing them once a year is more then enough for something that is just meant to catch your eye. It can take more then a week and may even drag on for weeks while we decide. Someone has to make the logos too... :-/

If I had a choice between discussing major edits and minor ones, which the logos are, I'd go for the major ones. I'm not trying to sound negative, put you off or whatever, I'm just explaining that you have to bare this all in mind. Editors are volunteers who give up their time for free. Time is precious, how do you want to spend it?

I'm all for changing the logos myself, but I can think of the more important stuff that needs to be done and right now... logos we have can make do for at least another year if need be the way they are. If it was up to me, I'd wait until V3 has ended and no more vocals are coming out, the V3 stuff is being removed a few months after the last confirmed V3 is out. The focus will be souly on V4 (and V5 if its out by then, which at this rate could be just as likely...).

Anyway... If there is a consent to change the logos from several editors, then it can occur anyway, no single editor can go against the community if they want it.