Talk:Hatsune Miku/@comment-53539-20190902102405/@comment-53539-20190911195341

To me its 4 outcomes;


 * 1) Another Vocaloid becomes popular in Miku' place and is taken as the "standard" vocal and nothing changes really
 * 2) Producers stick with Vocaloid and refuse to chase Miku to a new engine because their more loyal to Vocaloid or already own it
 * 3) Producers leave (remember the is up to 40,000 Miku producers here in Japan) and follow Miku
 * 4) Producers just bail altogether, leave Vocaloid and Piapro Studio behind because they don't want to follow Miku and aren't loyal enough to Vocaloid either

About all we know is that Vocaloid as a franchise is doing a lot of projects in the background independent of the need for Miku to be part of anything. So all that happens at best is the collapse of commercial Vocaloid, and not private Vocaloid, which will continue on so long as Yamaha is willing to put money into projects like VOCALOID:AI. So Miku's departure only impacts that. In this time, Vocaloid isn't what it used to be in terms of popularity, that has become apparent since 2014 its seen a decline in popularity and usage. And sales of Miku have been some of the biggest increases in profit for the Vocaloid software.But there is no denying there are problems even if Vocaloid survives to see several versions more.

For starters the average Japanese V5 isn't too different to the average V3... The Japanese development has stagnated since in its current form, Vocaloids method of synthising has resulted in Japanese being as good as the engine can currently provide. Meaning the engines changing but the voicebanks aren't changing as fast. English was the last reported development overhaul and thats V4 era, theres never been a comment on Korean or Chinese and Spanish is basically dead unless a miracle happens... I don't have a problem with the stagnation of Japanese voicebanks, because everything eventually reaches a point of development height until a new idea comes along. ITs not there isn't room for change at all, its that the right person with the right idea hasn't done a change.

But the Vocaloid engine itself is getting more realistic... Compared to V4 and V3, there is actually a output difference between a V5 and a V4 vocal. In you compare the results they aren't the same which is the problem V3 and V4 had, there was almost no difference. What we'll never have is the situation again likely with V2->V3 wherein a LOT of improvements were able to occur.

We're so wrapped up often in the Big 8, particular the CFM 6, so as a fandom we don't really pay as much attention to the technology at times in my opinion that allowed Miku and co to sing. And now their leaving, we're left with the question of "whats left" and honestly? There is a lot left. Tons of vocals for starters. And most of the ones post V3 are much better then Miku was...