Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-6433273-20180322113157/@comment-53539-20180419062739

Pinkgirl234 wrote: Angel Emfrbl wrote: I think you just need to slap the contro template on it and leave it. There are stolen songs like Secret. Its best to just keep the page updated with the correct information and instead just use the page for information on the subject. If you delete it, you don't have a reference to the song to refer back to if someone asks.

We've had plagiarism before. To be fair, there are a bunch of things to consider here:
 * There is a difference between the case of secret and the case of Hetaira:
 * The author for secret was mentioned in the secret song article. Ryuuuu created the entire song from scratch. Everything he made was completely original. aRth never collaborated with the producer in creating the song. He simply took the song (and other songs) and claimed them as his own.
 * As for the case of Hetaira, horizonsP took someone's track and made an entire song out of it. While that's not really wrong--provided that you do not really claim the musical track as your own or at least tried to ask permission from the original music producer, the description lists horizonsP as the one who created the music (which does not really sound true). So far, there is no statement from the producer as to whether the producer of the remix allowed him to use it and create a song out of it to submit to the MAIKA Original Song Contest. How I wish this was clarified in the thread in VocaloidOtaku.net regarding him as to whether he plagiarzed in the song contest or if he was allowed to use the remix as the musical track for Hetaira.

So yeah. secret was completely claimed by someone while the musical track used in Hetaira was passed off as if horizonsP created it.

Additionally, since this wiki encourages good practices, I believe plagiarism is discouraged too. If anyone does ask why the song article for Hetaira is not in this wiki or why it was deleted, we can just simply explain to them the reasons behind its deletion. I see no difference, its not a case we're covering a song because of the fact its controversial, its made with a Vocaloid and its better to keep the page and write up all the details on the event. This isn't even the first case of plagiarism.

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Basically, you link to the page via CC page, since it already has a section for plagiarism, you then explain on said page when the issues are. Documentation is often better then deletion as it serves as a coverage of events that have taken place in our fandom and the franchise. It seems as a reference for further events of similar nature and helps explain problems and encounters occurring across the fandom.

Bare in mind, it has been brought up that we shouldn't even cover Pocaloid as an argument because it "promotes the existence of illegal vocaloid copies", as someone once argued. However, in the process of covering the version we get to educate people on the situation, explain that no matter whether or not a free version exists investment has to go back into a vocaloid to see more are created, etc. Basically, its not the pages existence that is the issue, the issue is just the handling. Where a dire situation exists, an chance to exploit it for good reasons can also come out of the situation. So we can turn a bad situation on its head and use it for promoting good practices and explain the serious nature of any given situation.

Its all part of the complex history and culture of both Vocaloid and the music industry. Whether we like it or not, these things go on. Heck, in reverse don't forget "Dye" and KAT-TUN occurred. We still covered the matter even though it was bad for the bands situation.