So, I was skimming through Zephyr-P's newer videos and- No guys wait, come back! This isn't 100% about him, please, come back!!
Ok, good. Anyways, there'sthis video he uploaded and it talks about them about half way in. Then, to confirm his statement, he links to a video byempath-p , saying she/he's being authorized to show some demos for the two at the panel she/he's hosting at AMA. there are more details there.
Just thought i'd share if nobody knew.