<p>I'm sorry if I'm not doing this correctly as it's my first time using this kind of messaging system, as the wikia I'm more active in still use the old forums.</p><p>
</p><p>but at any rate, I think this is important both for the sake of transparency and for the sake of not misleading our users, especially kids.</p><p>one look at popipo's approved lyrics section and you'll see why vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/ぽっぴっぽー_(PoPiPo)#Approved English lyrics</p><p>
</p><p>the english lyrics here are from project diva and were specifically added to pad out for time so the song would be long enough to use as a rhythm game level. already it was at a disadvantage quality wise because it was made as a dub rather than a sub, but there wasn't really an effort to make it stand up on it's own let alone as an adaptation or translation.</p><p>
</p><p>so not only does it not convey the meaning of the original lyrics like it should, it's not even coherent as it's own thing</p><p>
</p><p>when people see "approved lyrics" they expect that the lyrics have gone through some form of quality control, which these very clearly have not. </p><p>I do understand why they're here, they're official material after all, but I think they should be labeled as what they are along with a quality warning rather than being presented as a proper translation</p>
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<p>Perhaps a new template, placed right above the lyrics section to warn about the lyrics' quality would do?</p>
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<p>that would certainly work !</p>
<p>I agree with the template solution as well. </p>
<p>Viper advised me to ask Damesukekun about this (details on his talk page). Kinda on a rush right now, will probably write it later.</p>
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</p><p>It's my fault for not reading the whole thing through, but my last point still stands, it shouldn't be in the wiki as a transaltion to begin with.</p><p>
</p><p>TL;DR</p><p>-------------------------------------------------</p><p>
</p><p>I really feel like i was ignored when it comes to this..........</p><p>
</p><p>"Correction, it's not the official translation. As far as i know, F2nd the only game that got a fully translated and contains this song(or was it F, i don't really remember. I think it was F2nd the more i think about it because it had older songs. Either way, it doesn't matter because the localizations started with F.), doesn't have a translation at all for this song.</p><p>
</p><p>This translation is officially recognised because CFM and SEGA used it to make the song a bit longer in the game, since it's a rhythm game and even when putting the english ver. in it only goes to 2 minutes, which is about the right amount for a rhythm game. The localization team didn't touch it, at least as far as i know. This would be a fan translation or even translyrics, not an official translation made by SEGA or CFM. It was just used by them as an excuse to put the song in the game and have it be long enough to feel enjoyable to play."</p><p>
</p><p>from viper's talk page: "In addition, it's recognised more like a second verse of the song by CFM, SEGA, and Lamaze since he used that verse in his V3 cover. In short it was never a translation of the song it's translyrics."</p><p>
</p><p>What i'm trying to say is, it shouldn't be in the wiki as a transaltion to begin with.</p><p>
</p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>About the templates</p><p>I get you but i see no reason because it's what the author wants to get through aka none of our business.</p>
</p><p>It's my fault for not reading the whole thing through, but my last point still stands, it shouldn't be in the wiki as a transaltion to begin with.</p><p>
</p><p>TL;DR</p><p>-------------------------------------------------</p><p>
</p><p>I really feel like i was ignored when it comes to this..........</p><p>
</p><p>"Correction, it's not the official translation. As far as i know, F2nd the only game that got a fully translated and contains this song(or was it F, i don't really remember. I think it was F2nd the more i think about it because it had older songs. Either way, it doesn't matter because the localizations started with F.), doesn't have a translation at all for this song.</p><p>
</p><p>This translation is officially recognised because CFM and SEGA used it to make the song a bit longer in the game, since it's a rhythm game and even when putting the english ver. in it only goes to 2 minutes, which is about the right amount for a rhythm game. The localization team didn't touch it, at least as far as i know. This would be a fan translation or even translyrics, not an official translation made by SEGA or CFM. It was just used by them as an excuse to put the song in the game and have it be long enough to feel enjoyable to play."</p><p>
</p><p>from viper's talk page: "In addition, it's recognised more like a second verse of the song by CFM, SEGA, and Lamaze since he used that verse in his V3 cover. In short it was never a translation of the song it's translyrics."</p><p>
</p><p>What i'm trying to say is, it shouldn't be in the wiki as a transaltion to begin with.</p><p>
</p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>About the templates</p><p>I get you but i see no reason because it's what the author wants to get through aka none of our business.</p>
(Edited by Aihavenoideawhatsoever)
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<p>I agree. There are also many cases in which the officially approved translations bear many translational errors (e.g. the official English translation of the lyrics of SNOBBISM). Although editors do add reminders atop the lyrics sections to notify the quality of such translations, I think it would be better if we were able to add the accurate versions alongside these ones as well.</p>
(Edited by 黒いKuroi)
<p>@Kuroi I thought this wiki didn't accept fan-translations, unless you're talking about something else and i completly missed it</p>
<p>Approved works fine.</p>