All posts by HaiFire3344

That's Clara

Lmao, someone in the replies said it's Itoh Hiroyuki. But yeah, that's neat, I wonder if they're gonna be on VOCALOID or Piapro Studio.

I mean, Fandom considers wikis to be owned by the community, but there are certain admins and moderators who have rights on this wiki, but I think only Fandom staff could change this, if anyone can (it might be some kind of indexing and/or cache issue, or a bug).

It might be out of the wiki staff's control.

Apparently that's Xavier Serra, one of the key people at Voctro Labs. No idea why he's there.

I like Fuiro, her demos kinda didn't do her justice but I wanna see what she can really do when I get my hands on her

I like his design and voice

KaiMei is cute

Not even that old of an argument lol, I'm still very confused

"Ship" usually implies an intimate pairing of characters with the shipper liking the concept of the characters being in a relationship. If you just want songs where certain vocalists sing together, just say that, and still keep in mind that it is bad if minors and adults are depicted in intimate relationships with each other.

It gets confusing when forms like "character x character" are used in a way that doesn't refer to an intimate ship. And now I'm confused because I can't tell if/who you're shipping in an intimate way or who you just want to hear in songs with each other.

So why are you still trying to find media involving minor x adult ships? KAITO has no confirmed age, but Miku, Rin, Len, and Luka have confirmed ages, and you seem to be interested in Miku x Luka and Rin x Luka, which are minor x adult ships and are thus harmful. I'm sorry about what happened with you and your friend, but I am not cyberbullying you; I am trying to inform you. I have seen how the proship (proship = support for minor x adult, incestuous, and other harmful ships, often also includes sexualizing minors) communities are, how the art communities dedicated to sexualizing minors are. I saw at too young an age. Those communities contribute to genuine harm to children because of how pedophilic relationships are glorified, how the distribution of real child pornography is encouraged, and how people use the works (art, etc.) produced by those communities to groom children. If you've never been on Discord, you've never seen how often people there try to groom children. Certainly doesn't help that a Discord employee once said that pornographic drawings of children were allowed on the platform, and only after there was backlash did Discord disallow such art. I bring these things up to make a point about the harmful behavior that results from mindsets like this. I urge you to consider these factors.

If you still don't believe what I am saying about this topic, find resources elsewhere that talk about why proship mentality is harmful.

// grooming

There are things that are legal that are not okay, just as there are things that are illegal that are perfectly fine. As such, it is not effective to go by the law for matters concerning ethics. The idea that the age of consent is 13 in Japan is also a misconception anyway; I think it might vary between administrative districts, but in general it's 18 there. It is nonsensical to argue that culture is something that excuses pedophilia, and it's honestly super weird to assume that an entire culture is pedophilic. One's culture has nothing to do with pedophilia.

In places where the age of consent is lower than 18 (it should not be lower than 18!!!), that is the result of the lawmakers being pedophiles. Remember that when some creep says "oh it's okay for me to date this child because in my state the law is 16". That individual should be using their judgement and realize that regardless of the law, it's not okay for an adult to date a minor (minor = someone under the age of 18), but they're instead being gross and ignoring the harm grooming causes.

I don't mean to derail this thread, but since this conversation started I wanted to continue it (I at least mentioned crystal P's music in one reply though).

// grooming , child sexual abuse

I can't immediately find that post and I don't feel like looking for it right now, so I'm just going to say that there is never any excuse for shipping adults with minors, and whatever your excuse for it is, I cannot imagine that it is a valid excuse. I don't know how old you are, but regardless of that, you should not be shipping adults with minors. Nobody should. Doing so contributes to the glorification of child sexual abuse.

It doesn't matter if it's only "art" or "it's fiction". Nobody depicts pedophilic relationships in a way that isn't meant to glorify them, unless it is made explicitly clear that the purpose is to demonstrate that such relationships are harmful.

I wasn't talking about Miku x Rin, I was talking about Miku x Luka and Rin x Luka.

I mean, Miku and Rin are 16 and 14 respectively, and Luka is 20...

miku x luka and rin x luka???? i

(those aside, kaito technically has no confirmed age and i do really like crystal-p's productions)

Undead Enemy probably