Whoa, can we all just take a step back...
Most people remember the songs lyrics even if a bit.
HOW THE HECK DID YOU REMEMBER THE KEYS???
I think this is one of those rare moments when respect should be sent regardless of circumstances because this is something thats very rare. O.o
Songman because he is actually singing in his samples unlike Diva.
Tonio, Big Al. Nana.
This question has been asked since 2008....
I'm not being rude but... Is there anything else we can talk about except their relationship because I don't know about some but after the first 2000 times.... This gets old.
DVDs can be purchased, not sure if this is the right link just be warned.
I'm no a Kagamine fan nor a fan of the series the songs and story are tied to... I just happen to know they released a DVD on it.
So I apologise here for anything but the confirmation, yes, you can buy it.
If we count studios still in... At this point I'd say Ah Software or Gynoid.
Previously it was a little more complex, for English Vocaloids it was Yamaha themselves followed by Zero-G. For Japanese Internet and Yamaha again since many of Yamaha's vocals were made by part also Internet.
Worst was possibly CFM for Japanese, because they got stuck on this never ending re-release loop and were notorious as the studio taking the most short cuts. I say "known" because there may have been someone worst for all we know.
Like all things subjective, its an opinion the person has and each person has a different set of criteria for what makes a Vocaloid their favourite, their least, etc.
The Vocaloids as Rilena said aren't too unique, just as you can have vocal impersonators in real life, you can have Vocaloids that sound similar. How a Vocaloid is different is in their samples, and even then due to known short cuts some studios have been caught cheating... CFM being the most infamous for taking tons of shortcuts, but Internet has been noted too from time to time. So some Vocaloids re-use samples or re-use altered samples.
I'll give an example of what Rilena is talking about though. One of the biggest examples was Meiko, who was from the get-go made to not stand out with any particular vocal traits. The one to blame here was Yamaha as she and Kaito were meant to be the VY1 and VY2 of V1. Kaito had the same treatment, but fared better. This has long been confirmed as an issue for Meiko in particular and its to the point where everything Meiko does another Vocaloid just does better. So for anyone who prefers a more distinct vocal, Meiko may come off as uninteresting and dull. On the other hand, the fact she can do a variety of vocals "well" can also be an attraction as her moer jack of all trades vocal allows her to do a wide variety of genres fairly decently even if she can't excel at them.
Even when it comes to distinct vocal traits, you may hate those traits. I can't stand vocals like Miku. I have a medical reason, called Tinnitus. I've tried but her, Rana, the Kagamines, Luka V4x at times, etc are just not good to me. So I hate those vocals for a reason, their mostly high pitched vocals, with Nana being he only one I can stand for some reason and she has never set it off. Even one of my favourites, Prima, can set it off but much rarer.
There are issues with some people hating Miku because she is popular while adoring Vocaloids being their less popular, some Vocloid fans like Piko because his retired and they pity on him. Merli got a lot of love for being "the first dark skinned Vocaloid" and then when the novelty wore off... Lost interest. For some fans, they change their mind on Vocaloids and shift interest.
With 70+ Vocaloids, well, there are good ones, bad ones, interesting ones, mediocre ones, etc. I've always had the opinion that its more important people like one Vocaloid then which one it is. The only time hate towards a vocaloid is not warranted to be honest is when its based on pettiness from one of two things. 1st is people not giving a vocal a chance at all, Sweet Ann gets this a lot. Or through mistaken issues for example, English Vocaloid2 vocal got hate because they weren't Japanese to sum up the issue with them. The result was lots of rumours, lots of misunderstandings, lots of propaganda and presumptions that over time have proven not to be true at all and this caused other fans to not give them a chance... Until V3 when English Vocaloid love outweighed the hate towards it.
Even if the vocal is 'bad', you can still like it and even if its 'good' you can still dislike it. Each to their own. I mean the definition of good and bad here is just based on quality though and if the vocal can even do its job. I've seen people dislike the VY series and I've seen strong love for the Kagamines back in V2.
Overall, there is a lot to take in and I apologise for a long talk about this. I never consider the reason people love/hate a Vocaloid over another a simple reason.
If I think of my own reasons... I liked Gumi but then came Chika with almost the same voicetype. Then Kokone who was based on her voicetype again, but with falsetto added in, but at least with her the falsetto off-set the Gumi-like results and she sounds nothing like her 90% of the time. Then the icing on the cake was she ended up with 10 voicebanks in V4, that didn't do much for Gumi the 5 she had didn't already do sort of well to begin with. So Gumi became boring just because there was nothing special about her by the end of V4. And this is without XSY allowing those 10 vocals to do 100 variations... And then more when the internet group was added and she could XSY Gackpo, Ryuto, Lily, Cul, Chika, Una and Kokone... You could get more xdistinct vocals from Una and Kokone then any 3 of Gumi's vocals. So this is pretty much how I was put off Gumi. Anything that made Gumi stand out was washed away just because there just was not 1 thing that made her interesting anymore that you could appricate on its own, it was watered down top the point Gumi was possibly weakened as vocalist not enhanced by all these options. And again... Like with Meiko by the time of V5, we have vocals that do all of what Gumi does as a singer but better so its even worst now. So this is my reason for being put off Gumi and now I'd rather listen to a Vocaloid like Ia just because she has traits that haven't been watered down nor many vocals that can do the same results as her.
she was memed back in 2008.
Also, becareful when insulting Ann's art, its a edited picture of Lena Horne who wasn't ugly.
Horne wasn't the most beautiful woman in the world but she was attractive enough to appear in movies. Even in old age she aged gracefully and was arguable more attractive then most women her age as a elder.
If the few songs you listen to are like that, then your belief is the pairing only appear together in songs like that. We've seen this happen before, with "Len always dies". Rin being the most popular of the two Kagamines by 50% also had actually died far more often then Len.
With so many songs out there and a handful being popular you can't expect even veteran fans to know the scope of things at times. Especially as when we talk about Miku we're talking about a vocal who had 40,000+ original songs in the early 2010s... And only a fraction of them tend to get noticed. OoO
Also the pairing can and can't be popular, the thing is you have to remember that Kaito was made originally to be Meiko's counterpart. So at times its more natural for people to pair her up with Kaito.
Gackpo is suppose to be just the voice of Gackt, the name "Gackpoid" means "Gackt-like". So We're suppose to view Gackpo as we would Gackt, exact you have to bare in mind their not identical. Even from the boxart e have a Japanese theatre samurai character thats a reference to the fact that Gackpo is also an actor as well as a singer and its clear he is a mature adult, not a teenager like most Vocaloids. What age you want to place him as is arguable though he doesn't seem to be a old man so we can basically say someone who isn't older then mid-40s.
Fukase is a young male both by the fact his voiced by a young male and his boxart portrays him as.
The thing is the best example of age interpretation isthe Gumi character. Her "Native" is her as a mid-teen but due to the existence of "Adult" and other voicebanks, she can also be taken as a young adult. So her age could be anywhere from 14-30 which is a huge age gap. VY1 and VY2 are the same, we know their based on young teens or adults and VY2 was the youngest recorded male Japanese Vocaloid in 2010.
When no age is provided you just have to decide for yourself if it even is important to you at all. I mean is it wrong to say Lapis is 2 or 200? She is a fairy afterall so... Who knows? How wild do you want to go with these ages and how realistic? Nothing is right or wrong here.
Their just singers in a box, you use them how you please, even for ones with official stats, you can abandon them to make up your own details. Its your Vocaloid and your world of creative imagination. While its wrong to say Miku isn't 16 when talking about the cold facts, when talking about what someone has made up for themselves its not applicable.
My only issue I've ever had is how some people in the Vocaloid fan limit themselves by not exploring things far enough and doing more with concepts.
Its kinda bad so far though if we're discussing it here, it sounds somewhere between V1 and V2... and has nothing no other synth doesn't already do. I was expecting more from it because CFM's made synth stuff for over a decade.
And yes, I know its a prototype and we should give it half a pass and improvements/bug fixes are being done.
Sorry its late, I tend not to view the discussions and Rilena hasn't replied. Thought I best as there is no point in leaving this unfinished answer lingering. Yes, its harder to use Japanese for English even if you know the phonetics. Because only 1/4 of the langauge uses the same sounds as English, and it has 1/5 of the samples.
Expect hell when you first do it until you get used to it, and it will never be as HQ.
There is no canon.
@Ms. Slytherin Kaito currently has no official age
The older Vocaloid powered voicebanks were made for Vocaloid and thus they will never stop being Vocaloid voicebanks.
But as Rilena said, Miku NT, Kagamine NT aren't Vocaloids.
So yes, their not Vocaloids anymore, the big issue is Yamaha owns Vocaloid and Yamaha doesn't acknowledge anything that isn't powered by their own engine. This inclides derivatives like Neru and Haku, as well as UTAU like Teto. So unless it has a Vocaloid power voicebank, its just not Vocaloid.
So the CFM vocals have moved from Vocaloid and thus are no longer "Vocaloid", they 'were' Vocaloids and when we talk about them as Vocaloids we only talk about their V1-V4 releases.
Their not the only ones to jump engines. Xingchen also sort of left Vocaloid too. There are vocals like Nana and Petit who have gone from Reason and Garage band to UTAU and then Vocaloid. There are also vocals like IA and Yu7kari that are split between two engines and thus are both. Though I would not be surprised if IA left Vocaloid altogether.
Another use of the Vocaloids is teaching a singer a song. A actual singer is capable of singing the vocal lyrics better then a vocaloid, but they have to learn how to sing the song.
You can also use them for soundfx-related vocal manipulation, but I'd argue Chipspeech or Marie Ork from alter/ego are the better things related to this. Vocaloid tends to sound too natural, while their synths shared engine is capable of being strange.
On of the problems is Vocaloid isn't that useful and is just a singer in a box.
How many bias polls where everyone asks who they like that only focus on the CFM or a persn's favourite are we going to have????
The polls bias and favours only the vocals you like... =_=
You know they release Vocaloid songs daily by about 100 overall between the Vocaloids.
I never continued things or there would have been follow up pages linking to those written up fully + proper
I gave up after Bunai wouldn't confirm this page was okay.
We have no general tutorial pages and this would have helped fill the void. Our only tutoral pages are on phonetics.
Unless CFM adds heights and stuff to a NT version, this is pretty much all non-canon.
As the others said.
The issue is that there was no character for Meiko and Kaito originally. Those boxarts for V1 aren't "Kaito" and "Meiko", their just... Boxarts. Thats it. Sweet ann is the first to have an official character and Miku is the first to have an official bio. Since the V1 pair were never made with characters in mind, they've never been given one. Its why they don't have surnames either.
I was going through every question and fixing answers, redirecting to a single answer on things such as relationships (there was a page for everything).