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  • Hello! Maybe I don’t understand something, but does Vocaloid have any canonical characteristic since recently? It always seemed to me that the authors basically avoided this, but lately I began to meet a lot of people who tried to refer to various songs as the Word of God or even to argue that some information should be accepted as a canon. Usually in the form "the authors added this song to the official tracklists or performed at a concert, so this is the canon".

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    • Here it is not a matter of incest itself, but that people are so used to reading any relationship as romance, that even platonic family love is read by them as a romantic subtext. Not to mention the rivals, it’s enough to recall the "X-Men. First Class", where any discussion of the relationship between Eric and Charles will somehow be reduced to a homoerotic subtext between them. To such an extent that one of the commentators on the Shiping Wiki quite seriously claimed that their game of chess in the last film should be taken as confirmation of them as a canonical couple.

      The funny thing is that some Vocaloid's producers are fully aware of this and even intentionally upload ambiguous "friendship song" with vocals of Miku and Luka to see how people will emotionally argue about whether the song is gay or not.

      Anyway, I'm a 21st century guy, I have no problems with people who enjoy the slash shiping or the LGBQ community in general. But at the same time, I was just tired of feeling uncomfortable because of the obsessive people who require that every second work should be perceived as a gay love story only because they ship the main characters. This becomes such a big deal that many people even seriously seriously try to manipulate the LGBTQ community to blame in homophobia those who don't share their attitude. For example, when one of the ANN reviews avoid the popular interpretation of Liz and Blue Bird as a subtext lesbian love story, some people in the comments attacked the author, demanding that he start considered heroines as lesbians in recognition of the importance of LGBTQ rights.

      Moreover, this is not limited to romance; recently, the requirement to consider any Japanese cross-dress character to be transsexual is also gaining popularity, even if the character himself does not hide his gender and never asks to see him a girl. Of course, all people who find this strange or even try to argue with this,pointing to the existence of Japanese phenomena like a otokonoko or Takarazuka, and that it aren't directly related to gender identity, will be immediately accused of transphobia. 

      It seems that people can no longer enjoy their subjective vision of content, therefore, they will start a conflict even because of the simple use of the word “friend” to the characters of their ship or the mention of other things that contradict their fanon.

      " I've seen so many arguments such as "its headcanon" as a defence, but thats weak because headcanon often replaces canon for that person" - In anime fandom, this is often called "interpretation." Even if it’s obvious that a person is simply trying to rewrite the actual plot to fit his fetishes or POV in general, you should still respect this and take it as a serious option just because “people have the right to interpret”. Moreover, people themselves will never be friendly to any of your interpretations, even trying to organize bullying of you if shiping is a big deal in this situation.

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      Edit: Okay let me try this again.

      I don't respect the rewrite, simply because after 11 years of the Kagamines... SERIOUSLY, there is more to write on them other then are they brother/sister, lovers, etc. I just don't care about the ship because that was great maybe in 2008-2010 but in 2019, especially when PS taking the Kagamines away from Vocaloid, its just boring. There is more to Vocaloid then whatever romance one likes.

      I still blame it on the lack of a serialisation, always have done.

      ANN doesn't mention romances unless it impacts a character or the plot. Otherwise they tend to leave it out. The article is on the series, not the unofficial romance. Therefore they don't need to mention it.

      I like One Piece, but if I had to sum the entire series up... I'm not going to focus on Sanji + Puddings wedding that never took place or Shanks + Luffy beyond Shanks saving Luffy's life and therefore causing the entire plot to happen. There is just more then this and I like nerding out over every little detail. Its made worst by the mangaka Oda himself having this nasty happen of refering a detail he included 400 chapters ago. X'D

      To the problem is the fans talk is shallow in Vocaloid, because I hate to say it, Vocaloid itself is a shallow franchise.

      Unless your a techie nerd, you have nothing to discuss and most fans are anime nerds, not even music boffins mot of the time, so their not tech nerds at all.

      I respect the person who finds something new to discuss that causes everyone to rethink things and how they look at everything. You rarely get this in the Vocaloid fandom, but in others... Well if I compare this to the "what if..." story of Fallot Equestria the story is much more indepth then anything Vocaloid fans produce.

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  • Hi Angel. Just wanted to let you know that i am still preservering and learning with VOCALOID5 and have created my own virtual singers based on Chris and Amy. I did one song in Germany (Swiss-German actually) which came out well by using British style phonetics to reproduce the German words. My latest album which i just put up on Bandcamp has 10 songs with the VOCALOID5 singers and is dedicated to Blues and Boogie-Woogie and they sound quite reasonable - one can understand what they are saying and they have a "bluesy" touch to their voice. Check it out at: http://www.stevehaite.bandcamp.com/album/feeling-the-blues Cheers. Steve. PS I am not sure if by the standards of you experts this is good and progress or still very, very basic.

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  • Hello,

    There is an user on the server with Angelemfrbl#1665 as pseudonym. Is that really you? :)

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