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:''"but is not the purpose of the wiki to advertise 'vocaloids' that other fans have created?"'' The short answer is no, it is not. Far, far from it.
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:Long answer: The Wiki is not a place to advertside your vocaloids. This is without question and not up for discussion. It goes against the terms of use of the Wiki that all users agree to which is not to use it to advertise themselves, their products or work, regardless of (or lack of) commerical viabilty. A Wiki is a resource site documententing actual facts and popular opinion. If we were to include ''every single vocaloid created'' we'd have tousands upon thousands of entries. Its just not feasible especialy considering the different levels of popularity the fanmades have. They have to fill a certain criteria to be included and we're currently reviewing several vocaloids which appeared to have been abandoned by their creators. If a vocaloid is popular, has a song portoflio and/or several decent quality fan arts then it is most likely to be included in the Wiki as it shows there is a fanbase supporting the vocaloid. We do have a page for people wishing to develop their vocaloids but this is meant as a feedback loop only and not as a place to advertise. If you are given feedback and do not make changes based on that feedback the vocaloid will eventually be taken down.
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:In regards to preffering the Japanese vocaloids, there is a simple explanation why it appears this way. Japanese fanmades have been around longer, and thus have a larger fanbase than those created by westerners. Its only a realitvly recent development that the west has taken an interest in creating fanmades and by that point there were over a dozen Japanese fanmade vocaloids with an extremly large fanbase. At roughly the same time the amount of Japanese fanmades began to trail off, making it look like the west has a much larger fanmade community, when in reality it is about equal. I'd also like to point out that the number of western vocaloids (that is, vocaloids created by westerners, not the vocaloids nationality) on this wiki is still greater than the amount of Japanese ones. [[User:Kaiseine|Kaiseine]] 21:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hibiki Vocaloids

I have disabled the code for the Hibiki Vocaloids due to a conflict of intrest. Vocaloid Wiki is not a place to showcase your own material. You may want to consider moving them to Vocaloid Wiki:Proposed Fanmade Vocaloids which is more suited to this kind of content. Kaiseine 15:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

--Taigahimeko 10:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)hi i've putted Paris Acme on the Fanmade Vocaloid Mascots page, and it gets deleted ALL the time.What did i do wrong? Can't it excist or something :|

Will look into it. As said in the other thread, we now have a policy against unjustified removal. O Herman 11:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
If you read my message above you'll see the code was disabled, not deleted (i very rarely delete things if i can help it). As i said, creating articles for your own work on a Wiki is heavily frowned upon by the community. If it's considered something special, someone else will make an article on it (which in itself serves the purpose 'Is it popular enough to be on the Wiki?'). In the meantime, you can gather feedback and increase your vocaloids credibilty by putting them on the Vocaloid Wiki:Proposed Fanmade Vocaloids as the purpose for that page is encouraging the development of fanmades so they can become supported and endorsed by the fan community. Kaiseine 12:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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Why are we NOT allowed to post fanmade vocaloids we have made ourselves?

You claim that it defeats the purpose of the wiki, but is not the purpose of the wiki to advertise 'vocaloids' that other fans have created? I'm confused about why people cannot post their own when they are clearly the same as the people who create them on Piapro, PixIv, and etc.

It sounds like you're preferring the Japanese people above all the other fans, especially the ones on deviantart.

Please elaborate on this situation; I am incredibly confused about the logic taking place here.

EnyoSama 17:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

"but is not the purpose of the wiki to advertise 'vocaloids' that other fans have created?" The short answer is no, it is not. Far, far from it.
Long answer: The Wiki is not a place to advertside your vocaloids. This is without question and not up for discussion. It goes against the terms of use of the Wiki that all users agree to which is not to use it to advertise themselves, their products or work, regardless of (or lack of) commerical viabilty. A Wiki is a resource site documententing actual facts and popular opinion. If we were to include every single vocaloid created we'd have tousands upon thousands of entries. Its just not feasible especialy considering the different levels of popularity the fanmades have. They have to fill a certain criteria to be included and we're currently reviewing several vocaloids which appeared to have been abandoned by their creators. If a vocaloid is popular, has a song portoflio and/or several decent quality fan arts then it is most likely to be included in the Wiki as it shows there is a fanbase supporting the vocaloid. We do have a page for people wishing to develop their vocaloids but this is meant as a feedback loop only and not as a place to advertise. If you are given feedback and do not make changes based on that feedback the vocaloid will eventually be taken down.
In regards to preffering the Japanese vocaloids, there is a simple explanation why it appears this way. Japanese fanmades have been around longer, and thus have a larger fanbase than those created by westerners. Its only a realitvly recent development that the west has taken an interest in creating fanmades and by that point there were over a dozen Japanese fanmade vocaloids with an extremly large fanbase. At roughly the same time the amount of Japanese fanmades began to trail off, making it look like the west has a much larger fanmade community, when in reality it is about equal. I'd also like to point out that the number of western vocaloids (that is, vocaloids created by westerners, not the vocaloids nationality) on this wiki is still greater than the amount of Japanese ones. Kaiseine 21:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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